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LMK if you're ever in SD.
basement farmer
My face is melting...
I get what everyone is saying about quality and really do think that your odds of getting food poisoning are just as good or better at a locally owned mom n' pop establishment as it would be at a large franchise restaurant. If anything, your average large corporate chain restaurant will generally have more policies in place guiding employees on sanitation and food handling issues.
While in college I worked at a locally owned motel with a hugely popular attached restaurant that had a salmonella outbreak (a number of years prior to my employment there). They made most of their menu from scratch (very little prepared food service items). It cost the owners tens of thousands of dollars and took years to re-establish a good reputation within the community simply because a low paid (and probably ignorant) employee failed to properly clean a cutting board.
Another story. I was grocery shopping and had to use the restroom. When I finished taking care of business and went to wash my hands there was no hand soap. I mentioned this to somebody at the customer service desk who acted shocked and promised it wouldn't happen again. As I walked through the produce section, I noticed one of the employees stocking apples by hand and the thought struck me that he could've very easily have recently wiped his ass and not had the proper material to ensure food safety. A few weeks later the same thing happened in the exact same store.
In my mind it's a matter of trust. When you eat food that someone else has made, you are putting a significant amount of faith into not only the preparer, but also the guy who washes the dishes, wipes the counters as well as everyone else in the process of handling your food.
What scares me as much as the people preparing my food is the thought of some poorly paid field worker having to take a dump while handpicking that tomato that will eventually wind up raw in my salad. I'm not absolutely sure he's going to take the time to walk a quarter mile to relieve himself and thoroughly wash his hands.
While in college I worked at a locally owned motel with a hugely popular attached restaurant that had a salmonella outbreak (a number of years prior to my employment there). They made most of their menu from scratch (very little prepared food service items). It cost the owners tens of thousands of dollars and took years to re-establish a good reputation within the community simply because a low paid (and probably ignorant) employee failed to properly clean a cutting board.
Another story. I was grocery shopping and had to use the restroom. When I finished taking care of business and went to wash my hands there was no hand soap. I mentioned this to somebody at the customer service desk who acted shocked and promised it wouldn't happen again. As I walked through the produce section, I noticed one of the employees stocking apples by hand and the thought struck me that he could've very easily have recently wiped his ass and not had the proper material to ensure food safety. A few weeks later the same thing happened in the exact same store.
In my mind it's a matter of trust. When you eat food that someone else has made, you are putting a significant amount of faith into not only the preparer, but also the guy who washes the dishes, wipes the counters as well as everyone else in the process of handling your food.
What scares me as much as the people preparing my food is the thought of some poorly paid field worker having to take a dump while handpicking that tomato that will eventually wind up raw in my salad. I'm not absolutely sure he's going to take the time to walk a quarter mile to relieve himself and thoroughly wash his hands.
basement farmer
My face is melting...
The vast majority of the constituency prefers low prices over quality. Until our attitudes as consumers change radically, good nutrition will take a back seat to Cool Ranch Doritos.
Jahannum
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The local Publix where I live is run very well, it is a very clean and well managed store. I am impressed everytime I shop there. Just got to get my fruit and vegetables from a local farmers market. I will get bananas and nuts from there though(raw Sunflower seeds/Walnuts).
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Some people will argue calories are calories so the source does not matter, but this is untrue. I like to think of my daily diet as filling up a car at a gas station. The capacity is the same, however the quality of fuel is very diverse in quality. You can still drive your car with the shittiest fuel, but it will not run too great, and you will notice the hiccups. Also the engine life is shortened.
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They do not teach proper nutrition in school and they server crap.
Some people will argue calories are calories so the source does not matter, but this is untrue. I like to think of my daily diet as filling up a car at a gas station. The capacity is the same, however the quality of fuel is very diverse in quality. You can still drive your car with the shittiest fuel, but it will not run too great, and you will notice the hiccups. Also the engine life is shortened.
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Hexi
Well-Known Member
Indeed, although statistically when you look at the big recalls of food, it usually comes from a big supplier or distributor. The most recent example of salmonella outbreak was traced back to COSTCO. Which is huge and sells all kinds of hot/cooked foods now.
I think we would need to see real data before we can say chains are safer or mom+Pop riskier.
Yeah people are hardcore about low prices, it's backwards thinking. Insisting on $0.99 cheesburgers via buying habits have convinced corporations that nothing else will do.
But is it chicken and egg? Do we insists on cheap hamburgers because that's all we know? Humans evolved to eat a little bit of meat and a lot of everything else. Society has changed such that a lot of meat is what we now eat. Is it the corporations fault for producing so much meat? Or is it the consumers fault for thinking cheeseburgers tastes good?
I believe it doesn't matter whose fault it is anymore, only that we all recognize it is a huge issue for the future generations and we need to work together to be more reasonable about food in general. (Sustainable for the kids!)
grokit
well-worn member
Cheap food, expensive healthcare. It's a win-win: they get rid of toxic waste when they add it to our food, and then get to take us to the cleaners when we get sick from consuming it by selling us expensive drugs with toxic side effects. They don't call it the food and drug administration for nuthin' 
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Vapie
Member
If you're ever in SD you need to hit up Kabob Shop too! I spent a week in SD recently and couldn't get enough donor boxes. So good.
Not sure if SF has Pizza My Heart or if thats a South Bay / Central Coast thing? It's pretty good pizza.
Denver912
Active Member
I've seen some shit and done some shit while working food jobs pizza places being the best. I worked in this shitty white trash mountain town doin the pizza thing and delt with racist dumb fucks.
We had fun with it. Sometimes a nut sack print pizza other times dusted busted shit.
Also I hate 90% of food places and know I cook better than any food I get. Last place I enjoyed was country buffet. Panda Buffet isn't bad fast food or the ones here are good. Majority of food lacks.
Good Indian food(butter chicken,saffron rice, garlic naan)mmmm so good.
We had fun with it. Sometimes a nut sack print pizza other times dusted busted shit.
Also I hate 90% of food places and know I cook better than any food I get. Last place I enjoyed was country buffet. Panda Buffet isn't bad fast food or the ones here are good. Majority of food lacks.
Good Indian food(butter chicken,saffron rice, garlic naan)mmmm so good.
momofthegoons
vapor accessory addict
@Denver912 , this post treads very close to breaking this rule....
Please tone down the "white trash and dumb fuck" type of comments.
basement farmer
My face is melting...
In my mind it's a matter of trust. When you eat food that someone else has made, you are putting a significant amount of faith into not only the preparer, but also the guy who washes the dishes, wipes the counters as well as everyone else in the process of handling your food.
I guess we get what we pay for.....
Hexi
Well-Known Member
Cheap food, expensive healthcare. It's a win-win: they get rid of toxic waste when they add it to our food, and then get to take us to the cleaners when we get sick from consuming it by selling us expensive drugs with toxic side effects. They don't call it the food and drug administration for nuthin'
LOL they live! Of course before the FDA, Soylent green WAS people. Upton Sinclair's The Jungle was the first time many even heard of how filthy and unregulated the pre- FDA market was.
The irony of course being now, the vast majority of americans BLAME the FDA for doing stuff when they are just a regulatory agency trying to save us all from death due to greed.
Jahannum
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Yeah, bone marrow is not popular in the states either, it is just discarded even though it is tasty and super nutritious. Notice in american culture, there really are not many recipes that include bones. I like cow tongue too.