FROLIC by Limelight Herb

[BH491]

Sorry to comment on the negative this thing seems pretty great.

But the overheating seems kinda crazy to me, just from 2 bowls and even 1? Especially if turining off and on doesn't work
I dont mean to be a... But this being brought up lately, and the replies about it like its no big deal, kinda baffle me, this to ME, as a back to backer and or sessioner is a big deal. i hope it doesnt happen to most or is fixable

nn

 

[mcscruffy]

Sorry to comment on the negative this thing seems pretty great.

But the overheating seems kinda crazy to me, just from 2 bowls and even 1? Especially if turining off and on doesn't work
I dont mean to be a... But this being brought up lately, and the replies about it like its no big deal, kinda baffle me, this to ME, as a back to backer and or sessioner is a big deal. i hope it doesnt happen to most or is fixable

nn

It's only happened to me once and I felt it was due to the baby draws I was doing to prime the capsule I was using for hash.

I've tried some flower since then and have been very happy with no more overheating.

It does make me curious how it is happening since multiple people have reported it (and more than just once like for me) as well as if there's any changes to technique etc that could be causing it or could alleviate it.

 

[BH491]

At least 2 3 people said the overheating happened with caps or spacers and a couple posts back vaporo sais its the caps causing it. Maybe everyone else was with caps too? And caps are the reason (a glass bowl reducer too?), if its the thin light s and b caps and
If its also a glass bowl reducer that would seem to me to mean it has something to do with the heat getting bounced/stopped/slowed/pushed back to the heater or something like that, and so i wonder if this is a problem with all caps and what the fix would be... Besides more open airflow which someone mentioned would help, and why maybe some dont have the problem because they used a more open airflow
nn

 

[vaporo]

Sorry to comment on the negative this thing seems pretty great.

But the overheating seems kinda crazy to me, just from 2 bowls and even 1? Especially if turining off and on doesn't work
I dont mean to be a... But this being brought up lately, and the replies about it like its no big deal, kinda baffle me, this to ME, as a back to backer and or sessioner is a big deal. i hope it doesnt happen to most or is fixable

nn

I get where youre coming from and its valid. I also was kinda surprised that the support response i got about the buzzing and overheating was pretty “standard”.

However, if it makes you feel any better, this only happened to me one time. Ive explained it a lot but in a nutshell it happened after trying to hit back to back capsules on 400F. Once i got the message i immediately turned it back on, decreased the temp a bit (-10F), hit again and the message came back. Once it cooled, and i stopped using the caps, no more issues.

Also keep in mind i used TM2 capsules, which are very small compared to the oven size. All that extra airflow around a very hot capsule could have something to do with it.

Basically what I’m saying is its not a dealbreaker. This thing is awesome. If I see it happen without a capsule I will be the first to reach out to support. Ive done back to back seshes with no capsule and all good.

If anything I hope us reporting it here helps with testing for the actual Frolic capsules @Dejan LimelightHerb is designing.

 

[Custom Flower Hardware]

 

[Fearless Disaster]

Thanks! Whatever you do, don’t go to or join candlepowerforums! And definitely do not look at the Malkoff thread there…

and @mcscruffy definitely do not take a regular led flashlight and a high cri flashlight and shine both beams on the wall next to each other. just don't do it.

 

[Drsoapp]

@TigoleBitties does the AVPL capsules cause overheating?

 

[VapingVette916]

@TigoleBitties does the AVPL capsules cause overheating?

I don’t know what I’m doing wrong but every time I try to use them, they just get stuck and I have to use a blade to get them out

 

[TigoleBitties]

@TigoleBitties does the AVPL capsules cause overheating?

I have seen the message exactly one time and I was using the capsules. This was very early when I was experimenting with session mode and I tried hand torn nuggets instead of grinding. The airflow was probably terrible and that's what caused it. I've never seen it again and I'm still using the AVLP capsules but with no top. I remove the top so it fits but maybe the extra airflow helps avoid any heat issues.

I wouldn't be surprised if the reduced airflow and extra heat mass of capsules increases the odds of the unit overheating. The heater is just too powerful and the heat needs to be dissipated efficiently. @Custom Flower Hardware seems to have no issues at 464F with no capsules so that's a clue. I've had luck with just capsule bottoms.

I don’t know what I’m doing wrong but every time I try to use them, they just get stuck and I have to use a blade to get them out

Yeah they're a tight fit so what works for me is sticking my index finger (or whatever finger fits snugly and gives some friction) in there after it's cooled a bit and twisting. Since I don't use capsule tops, once I dump out the AVB I can get my finger in there. Then it usually pops out. Maybe a nice thick toothpick would do it too if you caught a hole and twisted a bit too. I know it's a tight fit so I just drop the capsule in with no force and I always make sure the oven doesn't get sticky. Even with a clean oven I still need to use my finger to get it out often.

 

[VapingVette916]

Yeah they're a tight fit so what works for me is sticking my index finger (or whatever finger fits snugly and gives some friction) in there after it's cooled a bit and twisting. Since I don't use capsule tops, once I dump out the AVB I can get my finger in there. Then it usually pops out. Maybe a nice thick toothpick would do it too if you caught a hole and twisted a bit too. I know it's a tight fit so I just drop the capsule in with no force and I always make sure the oven doesn't get sticky. Even with a clean oven I still need to use my finger to get it out often.

thx for the tip, ill try the finger method.

 

[Sativapo]

I guess it would be interesting to have heat efficient reducer and capsules. Also the direct to water attachment would be interesting the cooling happening outside the vaporizer block.
In general with the right restriction/draw technique this overheating thing won't be an issue I think. I prefer to know when it is actually too hot. This is due to the cooling unit beeing so integrated to the block I think. May be the downside of this design.

 

[MrGreenspoon]

I`ve been testing the Frolic for a few days now and I love it but one thing is very annoying. The screen in the bowl is to small so it stands up at one side and if you try to fumble it back under the edge it comes up at the other side. It's nearly impossible to get it under the edge all around the bowl.

@Dejan LimelightHerb After my last bowl the session timer had expired and the device vibrated. With that vibration there were a cracking sound that I even felt in the mouthpiece and now the upper Peek part of the bowl is spinning loosely. It doesn't come off but it's spinning.
Bit scared now, but not scared enough to not use it

 

[Dejan LimelightHerb]

Sorry to comment on the negative this thing seems pretty great.

But the overheating seems kinda crazy to me, just from 2 bowls and even 1? Especially if turining off and on doesn't work
I dont mean to be a... But this being brought up lately, and the replies about it like its no big deal, kinda baffle me, this to ME, as a back to backer and or sessioner is a big deal. i hope it doesnt happen to most or is fixable

nn

Sorry I am answering only to your post, hope this addresses everyone.

The device was tested for months before the release. This safety feature can be triggered only under the most heavy usage, and nobody on our team ever managed to trigger it. Now I am fully aware that people have different vaping habits but as I have said numerous times, performance was the number one goal with the Frolic. The safety will get triggered only if air is drawn constantly through the heater for a very long period of time, which explains why pods, reducers, etc. will make this more pronounced.

Turning the device off and on makes no sense and since this is not a fault, of course it will happen to anyone who uses it this way, so not sure what you meant by this.

Since it's down to the trapped heat, leaving it idle for a short while to cool down (seconds, not minutes) makes sense and will completely eliminate this.

I`ve been testing the Frolic for a few days now and I love it but one thing is very annoying. The screen in the bowl is to small so it stands up at one side and if you try to fumble it back under the edge it comes up at the other side. It's nearly impossible to get it under the edge all around the bowl.

@Dejan LimelightHerb After my last bowl the session timer had expired and the device vibrated. With that vibration there were a cracking sound that I even felt in the mouthpiece and now the upper Peek part of the bowl is spinning loosely. It doesn't come off but it's spinning.
Bit scared now, but not scared enough to not use it

Could you message me and possibly provide some photo or video material so I can see what's going on. If the screen is bent out of shape, you could replace it with a new one. As for the crackling and spinning etc. I believe that the mouthpiece spun a bit and the oring made a screeching sound and it completely unrelated to the spinning piece which by the way can spin freely because it's held in place by an oring. Not sure how you came to the conclusion that the two events are related unless you tried to spin the said piece and it didn't spin, then you tried spinning it again and then it did spin... Please message me so I can see what's going on. Thanks.

 

[Just Justin]

I`ve been testing the Frolic for a few days now and I love it but one thing is very annoying. The screen in the bowl is to small so it stands up at one side and if you try to fumble it back under the edge it comes up at the other side. It's nearly impossible to get it under the edge all around the bowl.

@Dejan LimelightHerb After my last bowl the session timer had expired and the device vibrated. With that vibration there were a cracking sound that I even felt in the mouthpiece and now the upper Peek part of the bowl is spinning loosely. It doesn't come off but it's spinning.
Bit scared now, but not scared enough to not use it

I had the same chamber screen issue so switched to S&B Venty/Mighty/Crafty fine chamber screens and they seem to fit better if you have those?

@Dejan LimelightHerb

do you and your team use the Frolic? Maybe a stupid question?

 

[MrGreenspoon]

Sorry I am answering only to your post, hope this addresses everyone.

The device was tested for months before the release. This safety feature can be triggered only under the most heavy usage, and nobody on our team ever managed to trigger it. Now I am fully aware that people have different vaping habits but as I have said numerous times, performance was the number one goal with the Frolic. The safety will get triggered only if air is drawn constantly through the heater for a very long period of time, which explains why pods, reducers, etc. will make this more pronounced.

Turning the device off and on makes no sense and since this is not a fault, of course it will happen to anyone who uses it this way, so not sure what you meant by this.

Since it's down to the trapped heat, leaving it idle for a short while to cool down (seconds, not minutes) makes sense and will completely eliminate this.


Could you message me and possibly provide some photo or video material so I can see what's going on. If the screen is bent out of shape, you could replace it with a new one. As for the crackling and spinning etc. I believe that the mouthpiece spun a bit and the oring made a screeching sound and it completely unrelated to the spinning piece which by the way can spin freely because it's held in place by an oring. Not sure how you came to the conclusion that the two events are related unless you tried to spin the said piece and it didn't spin, then you tried spinning it again and then it did spin... Please message me so I can see what's going on. Thanks.

I will replace the screen with a new one and see if it helps.
No it wasn't the mouthpiece that spun a bit and the oring made a screeching sound, the mouthpiece didn't move at all. I could feel the crack even in the mouthpiece and in the whole unit, it was like something broke inside the unit. At first I was scared and thought it was the batterie expanding / bloating. It was more than noticeable and something you do not want to hear and feel out of your vaporizer. 100% not normal
But the device works normally and was not excessively warm at this time so I keep using it.

How I came to the conclusion that the two events are related (cracking sound and spinning upper piece of the bowl) is simple. I always clean the bowl and when wiping, I noticed that the part rotates and I can no longer wipe it like before. Maybe a strange coincidence but the peek part is definitely looser than before.

I make a video of the spinning, no problem.

I had the same chamber screen issue so switched to S&B Venty/Mighty/Crafty fine chamber screens and they seem to fit better if you have those?

@Dejan LimelightHerb

do you and your team use the Frolic? Maybe a stupid question?

Thanks for the tip. I have a few of them

 

[Dejan LimelightHerb]

I had the same chamber screen issue so switched to S&B Venty/Mighty/Crafty fine chamber screens and they seem to fit better if you have those?

@Dejan LimelightHerb

do you and your team use the Frolic? Maybe a stupid question?

Our screens are a tad smaller in diameter, I thought this would make them easier to remove. Note taken, I will look into this matter, thank you for the feedback.

Yes we do, some for weed, some for tobacco, actually, we find it weird that more people don't use it for tobacco, why is this so, seems to work great?

I will replace the screen with a new one and see if it helps.
No it wasn't the mouthpiece that spun a bit and the oring made a screeching sound, the mouthpiece didn't move at all. I could feel the crack even in the mouthpiece and in the whole unit, it was like something broke inside the unit. At first I was scared and thought it was the batterie expanding / bloating. It was more than noticeable and something you do not want to hear and feel out of your vaporizer. 100% not normal
But the device works normally and was not excessively warm at this time so I keep using it.

How I came to the conclusion that the two events are related (cracking sound and spinning upper piece of the bowl) is simple. I always clean the bowl and when wiping, I noticed that the part rotates and I can no longer wipe it like before. Maybe a strange coincidence but the peek part is definitely looser than before.

I make a video of the spinning, no problem.

Thanks for explaining, this makes sense now. Yeah do message me, always happy to gather more info.

 

[stoneybalony]

Our screens are a tad smaller in diameter, I thought this would make them easier to remove. Note taken, I will look into this matter, thank you for the feedback.

Yes we do, some for weed, some for tobacco, actually, we find it weird that more people don't use it for tobacco, why is this so, seems to work great?

Thanks for explaining, this makes sense now. Yeah do message me, always happy to gather more info.

Do any of your testers do mixed bowls?!?! If so, any experience reports?

 

[Sativapo]

Yes we do, some for weed, some for tobacco, actually, we find it weird that more people don't use it for tobacco, why is this so, seems to work great?

I tried it a few times and it works well indeed. Idk why it isn’t more common. Maybe like me weed vapers that neednicotine find e-cigs more convenient ?

 

[Dr. G]

I do not have any heating problems...

I take the herb and directly place it in the chamber. No capsules. I did order the glass spacer...the flavor is nice without the capsules. I just want to use my vape....I do not want to keep it for 20 years. So...I am living it. I am loving it.

Enjoy yours CHEERS!

DrG

 

[bosscib]

I received my Frolic yesterday and my initial impressions are great. Even though I'm late to the party I figured I'd share my thoughts. I ran a couple of burn off cycles and then cleaned everything. All of the parts are really easy to connect and disconnect. The build quality feels solid and the device feels great in hand. I like how the screen and temp controls on the bottom are easy to access and view but not in the way. I prefer to stay in the lower temp range, and I'm getting great tasting huge rips in demand mode. I'll continue to try out the temp/airflow suggestions the rest of you have made to further dial it in.

@Dejan LimelightHerb - Well done!

 

[vaporo]

I need to do a longer review in @dimmusp ‘s thread but I can easily say this is my favorite on-demand vape now, with TM2 being a close second. This edges it out aesthetics wise, build, and being able to have a mouthpiece that is more flushed/uniform.

 

[maremaresing]

While I have my own mouthpiece situation going on and my frolic airflow control component is stuck in the shop, I wonder why nobody has tried using it without mouthpieces inserted. Seems like just that AFC would make a nice low profile option that would be less likely to get twisted around on it's own.

I can easily say this is my favorite on-demand vape now, with TM2 being a close second. This edges it out aesthetics wise, build, and being able to have a mouthpiece that is more flushed/uniform.

Same. While they are both really fantastic, it comes down to aesthetic preference for me in favor of the frolic. I just love that synthetic sci fi look. That and the out of the box product on the frolic already has built in cooling and a good mouthpiece that doesn't really need any aftermarket to get the most from the device.

 

[MrGreenspoon]

Thanks for explaining, this makes sense now. Yeah do message me, always happy to gather more info.

Here is the video of the spinning upper part of the bowl. It rotates without effort....
Please ignore the noise in the background...this is not a squeaking oring, it's my little daughter

 

[maremaresing]

Mine spins like that too! Maybe it's supposed to/not fixed in place? I haven't taken mine apart enough to see what that whole piece is, but that excites me as it's another part I could probably fabricate and change down the line.

 

[MrGreenspoon]

Mine spins like that too! Maybe it's supposed to/not fixed in place? I haven't taken mine apart enough to see what that whole piece is, but that excites me as it's another part I could probably fabricate and change down the line.

It wouldn't have bothered me but it was only after the cracking noise. Before that it was not like that.
But if you say that it is the same for you and Dejan says it is ok, I'm ok with it....the only question now is what was that intimidating sound? I hope it doesn't happen again.