FROLIC by Limelight Herb

[Dejan LimelightHerb]

I'm not sure what power has to do with battery life, they seem like they are the antithesis of each other... It's either powerful, or efficient.

With regard to the 'most powerful' moniker, how many watts max does your heater draw in use, obviously heating a cold chamber will be the most power demanding, so please let us know the wattage in this scenario? Thanks.

Also, could you show a little more regarding the mouthpiece connection? I'm wondering about aftermarket possibilities.

Power in terms of Watts has almost nothing directly to do with battery life, it's down to the internal resistance of the battery... The power you are referring to, in terms of a device's capability to do its job on the other hand does, because more hot air is needed and so on. But yes, what you said it's a trade-off.

That was a typo, seriously . It works in pulse modulation as all, so it basically always draws the same power which is around 120W, it just stays on longer from cold.

Yes, actually, in the process of making detailed videos for each aspect of the device, everything should be up in a couple of days.

Not sure it’s been mentioned….. Hopefully this device will have the ability to be FIRMWARE UPDATABLE, like the S&B Venty?

No. We have kept the device very simple, in terms of software and hardware, so there's little that could go wrong here. So unless I have made some sort of a mistake with the software, updates shouldn't be needed.

 

[NightMoonWolf]

The website is live:

https://www.limelightherb.com/

Edit: Though it still seems to be under construction*


$111,00 would be a fantastic price for USA, so long as you change that comma into a period.

 

[Dejan LimelightHerb]

The website is live:

https://www.limelightherb.com/

Edit: Though it still seems to be under construction*

You just singlehandedly ended the life of a developer...

 

[NightMoonWolf]

You just singlehandedly ended the life of a developer...

Oops. My bad... Hahaha
Was I really the only one that noticed it was up? I've been checking on this thing all the time. Got to have one.

Edit: I sincerely apologize for any problems that may have caused. Please forgive me...

 

[Dejan LimelightHerb]

Not sure it’s been mentioned….. Hopefully this device will have the ability to be FIRMWARE UPDATABLE, like the S&B Venty?

Coming back to this, again, because I am after some feedback, so thank you in advance for taking the time to answer.

Why do you think software updates are a needed or a good feature? Not saying they aren't under certain circumstances

 

[NightMoonWolf]

Coming back to this, again, because I am after some feedback, so thank you in advance for taking the time to answer.

Why do you think software updates are a needed or a good feature? Not saying they aren't under certain circumstances

This probably stems from errors on devices like the venty, or poorly thought out devices like the Angus Enhanced.

Personally I don't see a need for software outside of setting a temperature. A vape has one purpose really. To efficiently vaporize the cannabinoids at your selected temperature. Why does it need complicated software for that?

Only needs to know enough that it changes voltage or wattage or whatever it needs to change to get the coil to the correct temperature and maintain that temperature during inhalation.

When a device is poorly designed or buggy, it shouldn’t be justified by the promise that software updates will fix it later. That’s like selling unfinished hardware and using software updates as a crutch.

 

[Dejan LimelightHerb]

This probably stems from errors on devices like the venty, or poorly thought out devices like the Angus Enhanced.

Personally I don't see a need for software outside of setting a temperature. A vape has one purpose really. To efficiently vaporize the cannabinoids at your selected temperature. Why does it need complicated software for that?

Only needs to know enough that it changes voltage or wattage or whatever it needs to change to get the coil to the correct temperature and maintain that temperature during inhalation.

When a device is poorly designed or buggy, it shouldn’t be justified by the promise that software updates will fix it later. That’s like selling unfinished hardware and using software updates as a crutch.

Thanks for the reply, I have to say I am with you on this one, although I do understand how people may see things differently.

This is basically a toaster and while I do appreciate updates on complex devices such as a smartphone, I really don't think I would update my toaster as it works just fine and I can't think of anything I would change...

 

[RustyOldNail]

Why do you think software updates are a needed or a good feature? Not saying they aren't under certain circumstances

This is basically a toaster and while I do appreciate updates on complex devices such as a smartphone, I really don't think I would update my toaster as it works just fine and I can't think of anything I would change...

Since I don’t have your device in hand, obviously I can’t talk specifics about your programming of the software. And I don’t know what chipset you are using, or if it’s custom or some stock chip, like most of the Chinese ECig vape mods, of which I’ve owned many of.

Once you start shipping a device, if something is not working right, software wise, you have no safety net to fix it remotely, and potentially have to have them returned to you, or just unhappy customers.

The S&B Venty for example has a very simple interface, but does have a few settings that can be changed by the customer. However, one of the features that was not changeable, was not logical, and after the company received user feedback, they were able to change it with a firmware update, through their own “app”. It’s an expensive device, with Bluetooth included, that adds some cost. Many of my early “mods”, had upgradable firmware updates, that was a file the user downloaded from the company site to your computer, and you did the update via the USB cable connected to the computer. A less expensive way to offer this, but did involve needing a computer. Now with Bluetooth and custom “apps”, this approach isn’t used as much anymore.

Other Example: You may have a “timeout” that you preprogrammed to a set amount of time. Then customers complain about it being too short, too long, whatever. Or something similar, and you might agree with the criticism, but your only recourse is to change it in future shipped versions. Now you have “Model B”, “C”, etc.

Anyway, I won’t get too deep into the advantages of upgradable firmware/software since I don’t personally know much about your new product, and if you didn’t plan on this from the beginning, it’s probably a mute point, and would add a bit of extra cost to produce.

Best of luck with the project!

 

[OlfactoryHue]

looks cool.. about the firmware software, looks like your screen could be customized.... I use an evolv cricket.. evovl being big in nic vapes etc and DNA.. with the cricket i can use escribe and make my own themes etc.. if you had/have open source access to your device people can customize it/make it their own more and build a culture/environment which retains customers imo... just a thought as you move along in your journey

also following along with this as it seems close to a TM2 and i've been contemplating one but must say their button issues.. (though they fix them upon breaking) is a draw back.. i'm not an early adopter so i'd be waiting on frolic reviews for awhile too but this is in that arena and has my attention as a potential customer

 

[Dejan LimelightHerb]

I typed a long answer, but removed it as it had some negativity and we don't need that.

In short, thank you, I am looking into implementing the remote update feature as there is no tradeoff to this.

To OlfactoryHue, yes, I am working with Evolv for 10 years now, their chips are solid and this is certainly an added bonus to have, I have focused on other aspects for the first release, these extras can and will come later.

Cheers!