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lovinlivinlife
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I received a G3 on Saturday and tested it this weekend. 
The G3 comes with the vaporizer itself, a cover, 4 "capsules", a brush and pick, extra screens, and a micro usb charging cable in a nicely done package.
In my opinion the G3 itself looks decent but does not have the same finished professional look that I feel the Vapormax V does![:\](/i/s/hmm.gif "Hmm :\")
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A couple of examples of this:
1. The cover snaps on top but is not snug fitting so it feels a little loose and rotates.
2. The chamber has what looks to be the same material that the capsules are made of and it looks crinkly in a few places.
3. The adjustment knob on the bottom feels a little loose and does not take much force to turn the knob into operation. (feels like it could be easily turned on in the pocket.)
I do take into consideration that this was one of the first of these that were made and that these problems can be corrected.
Upon opening I proceeded to fully charge the unit. After charging I turned the temperature up to the 9 setting (390) and unfortunately saw some vapor releasing from the unit
. This "mystery vapor" took 2.5 cycles to completely disappear. I ran a full 3rd cycle and did not see any more.
Soooooooo....
I loaded up about 1/4 teaspoon of material set the temperature to setting 9 (390). Waited about 1 minute for the led to turn green and took a pull.
It does work. I got a decent amount of vapor even on the first pull.
Taste on the other hand is not the greatest in my opinion. I would not say it is bad tasting (like I thought the T-vapes I had were), but there was some "robot fart"
smell to it.
I did notice that you do have to wait longer between puffs to get decent vapor. Unlike the Vapormax V which I can almost take hit after hit with little to no change in vapor density.
Extraction after two five minute sessions was a decent chocolate brown. I would compare it close to the original VB Pinnacle vaporizer on high setting. (which makes complete sense since the high setting is also set at 390.)
I played with the automatic option a little but did not like the vapor density that it starts at. I believe that auto starts at 310 degrees F and then ramps up to 400. (But don't take my word for it as I did not play with that feature all that much.)
One (probably) unintentional bonus of the mouthpiece design is that is does a pretty good job of mating with both my 14 and 18mm gongs without any adapters.
Overall the unit works but is not for me. I much prefer the Vapormax V, X-Max/Imag, and even the Dark Knight over the G3. (Out of the Chinese Vapes of course)
And that brings me to my final point.....
I do not own an Inhalatar. When I decided to sample the G3 I knew it looked an awful lot like the Inhalator, but was hoping that because of the success of the Vapormax V, that Smiss would use the same chamber technology that existed in the Vapormax in the G3.
I can't understand why after a successful introduction of (what I assume is) their own design in the Vapormax, you would want to follow that up with a damn near copy of another product.
Then again who knows if the Vapormax V was Smiss's own design. Could be that some poor soul out their somewhere had an idea for a vaporizer and contacted a well known Chinese E-Cig company to help them build it........
The world may never know.
Either way I think and have told Smiss that I believe the best thing for them to do at this point would be to scrap this and design a Vapormax V incorporated into a single battery "Pen" style vaporizer with temperature control.
As with all my reviews this is just my opinion.
I am looking forward to seeing what @mrweed and @Vape Dr. (and anyone else) have to say about this one.
Also I will try to get some pics up in the next few days as I busted my damn lens on my cell camera and didn't have anything else at the time to use.
Let me know if you have any questions and I will try my best-est to answer them.
, 
, and new vaporizers!
LovinLivinLife
EDIT: As I was writing this up @Vape Dr. posted all those pics. Looking forward to your experience Doc.
The G3 comes with the vaporizer itself, a cover, 4 "capsules", a brush and pick, extra screens, and a micro usb charging cable in a nicely done package.
In my opinion the G3 itself looks decent but does not have the same finished professional look that I feel the Vapormax V does
.A couple of examples of this:
1. The cover snaps on top but is not snug fitting so it feels a little loose and rotates.
2. The chamber has what looks to be the same material that the capsules are made of and it looks crinkly in a few places.
3. The adjustment knob on the bottom feels a little loose and does not take much force to turn the knob into operation. (feels like it could be easily turned on in the pocket.)
I do take into consideration that this was one of the first of these that were made and that these problems can be corrected.
Upon opening I proceeded to fully charge the unit. After charging I turned the temperature up to the 9 setting (390) and unfortunately saw some vapor releasing from the unit
. This "mystery vapor" took 2.5 cycles to completely disappear. I ran a full 3rd cycle and did not see any more.Soooooooo....
I loaded up about 1/4 teaspoon of material set the temperature to setting 9 (390). Waited about 1 minute for the led to turn green and took a pull.
It does work. I got a decent amount of vapor even on the first pull.
Taste on the other hand is not the greatest in my opinion. I would not say it is bad tasting (like I thought the T-vapes I had were), but there was some "robot fart"
smell to it.I did notice that you do have to wait longer between puffs to get decent vapor. Unlike the Vapormax V which I can almost take hit after hit with little to no change in vapor density.
Extraction after two five minute sessions was a decent chocolate brown. I would compare it close to the original VB Pinnacle vaporizer on high setting. (which makes complete sense since the high setting is also set at 390.)
I played with the automatic option a little but did not like the vapor density that it starts at. I believe that auto starts at 310 degrees F and then ramps up to 400. (But don't take my word for it as I did not play with that feature all that much.)
One (probably) unintentional bonus of the mouthpiece design is that is does a pretty good job of mating with both my 14 and 18mm gongs without any adapters.
Overall the unit works but is not for me. I much prefer the Vapormax V, X-Max/Imag, and even the Dark Knight over the G3. (Out of the Chinese Vapes of course)
And that brings me to my final point.....
I do not own an Inhalatar. When I decided to sample the G3 I knew it looked an awful lot like the Inhalator, but was hoping that because of the success of the Vapormax V, that Smiss would use the same chamber technology that existed in the Vapormax in the G3.
I can't understand why after a successful introduction of (what I assume is) their own design in the Vapormax, you would want to follow that up with a damn near copy of another product.
Then again who knows if the Vapormax V was Smiss's own design. Could be that some poor soul out their somewhere had an idea for a vaporizer and contacted a well known Chinese E-Cig company to help them build it........
The world may never know.
Either way I think and have told Smiss that I believe the best thing for them to do at this point would be to scrap this and design a Vapormax V incorporated into a single battery "Pen" style vaporizer with temperature control.
As with all my reviews this is just my opinion.
I am looking forward to seeing what @mrweed and @Vape Dr. (and anyone else) have to say about this one.Also I will try to get some pics up in the next few days as I busted my damn lens on my cell camera and didn't have anything else at the time to use.
Let me know if you have any questions and I will try my best-est to answer them.
, , and new vaporizers!LovinLivinLife
EDIT: As I was writing this up @Vape Dr. posted all those pics. Looking forward to your experience Doc.
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jmanrique
Jah Live!
@lovinlivinlife so they didn't use the same chamber from the Vapormax V in the G3? waow!! that's a major turn down!
lovinlivinlife
I'm Sexy... I'm a Scholar... People Like Me...
Well, it's hard to tell exactly what they used because it is lined with what looks to be the same material the capsules are made from.
@Vape Dr. will probably have better input on this as he has an Inhalatar and might be able to tell if they used the same material. (Polyamide?)
weenstoned
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I was an early adopter of the Inhalater XP and have one of the early units that runs too hot. Honestly never really been that satisfied with the flavour and can only use it on settings 1-3. The heating chamber is the same as described on the G3. Pretty sure Smiss either manufactures the Inhalater or just bought a bunch of the internals from the company that does manufacture them. They might be tweaked to not run as hot, or the temperature settings are the same but the company just lied in the manual. I would experiment with the lower settings and see if you actually get a lot of vapor as they might be identical to the Inhalater.
Not sure that the Vapormax V heating chamber would work in a slimmer pen form factor as it probably needs room to disperse heat. I kinda like the vapormax v as it's form factor is a bit more discrete and could be easily passed off as an external cellphone battery. If it were more pen like there would probably be no mouthpiece compartment.
Going to wait for some more reviews of this and the INH5 before I decide if I am going to try to get Pharmacor to upgrade my XP, or just order one of these or a Vapormax V.
Not sure that the Vapormax V heating chamber would work in a slimmer pen form factor as it probably needs room to disperse heat. I kinda like the vapormax v as it's form factor is a bit more discrete and could be easily passed off as an external cellphone battery. If it were more pen like there would probably be no mouthpiece compartment.
Going to wait for some more reviews of this and the INH5 before I decide if I am going to try to get Pharmacor to upgrade my XP, or just order one of these or a Vapormax V.
Vape Dr.
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They are definitely not polymide capsules. I am almost afraid to use them. They are very thin, like paper thin as you can see in the picture. They remind me of insulation wrap heat tape. I gotta look into this.
@lovinlivinlife, I just turned my unit on high (without a capsule) and I saw some faint fumes. It does smell like something burning when heated up with an empty chamber.
This review may take longer or get scrapped all together for that matter. I have to take the unit apart and see what's fuming and making that smell before I go any further with my review.
If the unit is unhealthy, there is no reason for me to try it to review. I will not review it if that's the case.
I'm skeptical of the inside of the chamber and the capsules. Once I find out exactly what they are made of I will let you all know.
However, if there is a way to safely use it, and it poses no health risks I will find it!
weenstoned
Well-Known Member
Those capsules are basically the same thickness as the capsules that came with my XP. They might look a tad less durable, but I gather that Pharmacor has introduced multiple capsule types. The ones that came with the XP are now called Perma and are supposed to be more durable than the new standard capsule. The only thing is that the color looks a bit lighter/more yellow on the pics of the G3 capsules, but that might be the lighting.
Inhalater capsules are definitely not that strong and I would probably also describe them as paper thin. That said i have yet to break one.
Inhalater capsules are definitely not that strong and I would probably also describe them as paper thin. That said i have yet to break one.
mrweed
vaporizer review blogger
thanks for the first impressions @lovinlivinlife! Doesn't sound good
Vape Dr.
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Quick battery update on the G3, I charged both units for 8 hours. The light is red, then when it turns green its charged.
I used the same 5 volt 1.5 amp charger on each unit.
Unit one from a complete charge to max temperature took 47 seconds. I turned the unit off directly. It took 25:40 seconds to charge back up to full charge, (green) without even using the G3, just turning it to max temp then turning it off.
Not anywhere near impressive or acceptable.
Unit 2 from a full charge to max temp took 42 seconds, then turned directly off. this unit took a ridiculous 39:47 seconds to charge to a full green light.
I then unplugged both units and plugged them back in. Unit 1 was still green.
Unit 2 was red?!? It also took an additional 5:52 seconds to turn back to green just by unplugging it and plugging it back in.
This is extremely unacceptable considering no vaping was involved, I was just warming to units to max temp and turning the them off.
I don't even know how it would be possible to actually use the unit without the batteries dying on you after one session...if it can even make it through one.
I will keep them charged over night then try the same test again before I tear into one.
This alone would make me not recommend the G3 to anyone. So far, not anywhere near close to good.
I will not jump to conclusions though, but IMO the G3 looks like a complete bust to me.
Nowhere near as good as the vapormax.
I will let you know the results of the same test after charging both units over night, but things do not look good for this unit and I haven't even used them to vape yet.
I used the same 5 volt 1.5 amp charger on each unit.
Unit one from a complete charge to max temperature took 47 seconds. I turned the unit off directly. It took 25:40 seconds to charge back up to full charge, (green) without even using the G3, just turning it to max temp then turning it off.
Not anywhere near impressive or acceptable.
Unit 2 from a full charge to max temp took 42 seconds, then turned directly off. this unit took a ridiculous 39:47 seconds to charge to a full green light.
I then unplugged both units and plugged them back in. Unit 1 was still green.
Unit 2 was red?!? It also took an additional 5:52 seconds to turn back to green just by unplugging it and plugging it back in.
This is extremely unacceptable considering no vaping was involved, I was just warming to units to max temp and turning the them off.
I don't even know how it would be possible to actually use the unit without the batteries dying on you after one session...if it can even make it through one.
I will keep them charged over night then try the same test again before I tear into one.
This alone would make me not recommend the G3 to anyone. So far, not anywhere near close to good.
I will not jump to conclusions though, but IMO the G3 looks like a complete bust to me.
Nowhere near as good as the vapormax.
I will let you know the results of the same test after charging both units over night, but things do not look good for this unit and I haven't even used them to vape yet.
jmanrique
Jah Live!
The flowermate has 2 batteries, the G3 just one... I think Vape Dr. got a unit with a bad one. Please let us know how today goes.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
Thanks for the reviews, guys. A few quick thoughts...
@Vape Dr. -- Thanks for treading cautiously here with the materials. After seeing Chinese manufacturers change materials used on the assembly line without contacting the American companies that designed the units, I have very little faith that this wouldn't happen with a Chinese designer as well. The materials used in this one's heating chamber and capsules concern me more than any other vape I have seen released. We need to get to the bottom of this one.
The V may be an original design, but the technology is not and it is easily replicated. It's just wires wrapped around an oven to heat it up. We are going to see a lot more of these types of vapes get released because they are simple, cheap and effective.
The 3 is a copy of the INHXP. That design is meant to get convection heating going, and this is a much more delicate and precise venture to undertake. There is a reason the Pax did so well out of the gate and the INH took five iterations to get really good...it's a hard design to nail and minuscule changes in a lot of design elements can make or break a vape's performance. Add to that the fact that the 3 is a copy of an older model of the INH and I don't see much hope for this vape being excellent.
It looks to me like Swiss is copying as many vapes as possible in the hopes of quickly creating one that will stick. They may have already done that with the V.
@Vape Dr. -- Thanks for treading cautiously here with the materials. After seeing Chinese manufacturers change materials used on the assembly line without contacting the American companies that designed the units, I have very little faith that this wouldn't happen with a Chinese designer as well. The materials used in this one's heating chamber and capsules concern me more than any other vape I have seen released. We need to get to the bottom of this one.
The V may be an original design, but the technology is not and it is easily replicated. It's just wires wrapped around an oven to heat it up. We are going to see a lot more of these types of vapes get released because they are simple, cheap and effective.
The 3 is a copy of the INHXP. That design is meant to get convection heating going, and this is a much more delicate and precise venture to undertake. There is a reason the Pax did so well out of the gate and the INH took five iterations to get really good...it's a hard design to nail and minuscule changes in a lot of design elements can make or break a vape's performance. Add to that the fact that the 3 is a copy of an older model of the INH and I don't see much hope for this vape being excellent.
It looks to me like Swiss is copying as many vapes as possible in the hopes of quickly creating one that will stick. They may have already done that with the V.
Not to derail, but there are several non-Chinese vaporizors with only one heat setting. The iolite/Wispr come to mind as well as most log vapes.
mrweed
vaporizer review blogger
yes true, but i was referring to "The V may be an original design, but the technology is not and it is easily replicated." obviously, neither the iolite nor the wispr use that technology since they are butane powered. Also the firefly seems to work differently, so I don't know any vape from which they could have stolen that technology, expect for other chinese units. However, I think even amongst these units, the V was the first and it's also not the same technology the imag or the dark knight use, since they don't perform alike.
jmanrique
Jah Live!
About the mouthpiece I have talked to smiss and they told me that the mouthpiece has 2 parts and can be separated so if you dont trust the materials you can still use it without the "polyimide".
They also told me that the mouthpiece were elaborated using only hydrogen and oxigen, so it wouldnt harm you... But I would like to confirm that first.
As long as the performance in general they told me that all their chinesse customers prefer the G3 han the V... And they offered me a discount price if I dont get satisffied when i get mine...
They also told me that the mouthpiece were elaborated using only hydrogen and oxigen, so it wouldnt harm you... But I would like to confirm that first.
As long as the performance in general they told me that all their chinesse customers prefer the G3 han the V... And they offered me a discount price if I dont get satisffied when i get mine...
Vape Dr.
Well-Known Member
About the mouthpiece I have talked to smiss and they told me that the mouthpiece has 2 parts and can be separated so if you dont trust the materials you can still use it without the "polyimide".
They also told me that the mouthpiece were elaborated using only hydrogen and oxigen, so it wouldnt harm you... But I would like to confirm that first.
As long as the performance in general they told me that all their chinesse customers prefer the G3 han the V... And they offered me a discount price if I dont get satisffied when i get mine...
I can tell you right now @jmanrique I would take the Vapormax all day over the G3.
I did find a possible solution for my quandary with the G3.
Pinnacle bullets fit perfectly in the chamber.
That takes care of the capsules, just use the plastic tip (which I also want to make sure is safe and has no funny taste). The lining of the oven is what scares me the most.
I might try to see if I can peel the tape away from the oven walls, then a pinnacle bullet would suspend in the air with the edge of the bullet holding it from falling in, with a capsule mouth piece tip to keep it secure.
Sounds doable. I will try that route first and see if it gets rid of the fuming. Then I will probably tear into it to see how safe it really is in there. It may end up working as a DIY vape.
I'm still NOT recommending this vape out of the box.
I am afraid to use it, it fumed 5 times this morning with no capsule with a steady odor. I'm sure it would taste like crap.
It really scares me.
It has a 5 minute auto shut off (maybe so the insides don't catch fire).
However, I will do my damnest to see if there is a safe route with this vape and keep you posted.
As for now I would steer clear from this vape for your own health, at least until I can find more info on the materials used!
I feel like I'm polishing a turd!
stickstones
Vapor concierge
I was wondering what you were getting at!
Personally, I don't consider the V a new design. It's simply a bigger Pax with fewer temp options. At least the Indica went out and got a novel appearance and provided a spacer.
Vape Dr.
Well-Known Member
Ok, I couldn't help myself guys....I tore into the G3 because it looks and smells unhealthy, and gives off visible fumes.
I do not want anyone purchasing this vaporizer because the flowermate was such a success. A picture is worth a thousand words.
So here are 10 pictures for you to be the judge as to whether or not you want to vaporize your medicine through the G3 chamber which unfortunately is no where near as nice as the FM ceramic chamber.
Here we go my friends, a dismantled G3.
The heating chamber is made out of 100% plastic.
The knob assembly with the circuit board
The inside of the heating chamber is made completely of tape
Overview of the G3 disassembled
Do you want to inhale your precious medicine through this heating chamber? I sure don't.
The heating element pulled out of the plastic chamber.
The 2 wires you see are taped to very, very thin aluminum foil like metal, sandwiched in between tape to hold its shape which is the actual heating chamber.
An unwrapped capsule, held together by tape once again.
Inside view of the heating chamber. You can see the "aluminum foil" metal sandwiched between two pieces of tape. This is your oven....
Here you can better see the metal inside the tape that sits inside a plastic tube. Your so called "chamber".
I strongly recommend against purchasing a G3 if you were considering it. It is nothing like the Vapormax.
PLEASE, if you are or considering purchasing a G3 DO NOT. There is nothing I can do to this vape to make it safe/healthy to use.
There will not be a review of this vaporizer.
I would not try using it myself, let alone recommend it to anyone.
The G3 is a bust.
Once again I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS VAPORIZER AT ALL! IT IS PURELY A QUICK CHEAP KNOCKOFF OF THE INHALATER.
Do yourself a favor and buy a SAFE, HEALTHY alternative.
Buy yourself an Inhalater!
I do not want anyone purchasing this vaporizer because the flowermate was such a success. A picture is worth a thousand words.
So here are 10 pictures for you to be the judge as to whether or not you want to vaporize your medicine through the G3 chamber which unfortunately is no where near as nice as the FM ceramic chamber.
Here we go my friends, a dismantled G3.
The heating chamber is made out of 100% plastic.
The knob assembly with the circuit board
The inside of the heating chamber is made completely of tape
Overview of the G3 disassembled
Do you want to inhale your precious medicine through this heating chamber? I sure don't.
The heating element pulled out of the plastic chamber.
The 2 wires you see are taped to very, very thin aluminum foil like metal, sandwiched in between tape to hold its shape which is the actual heating chamber.
An unwrapped capsule, held together by tape once again.
Inside view of the heating chamber. You can see the "aluminum foil" metal sandwiched between two pieces of tape. This is your oven....
Here you can better see the metal inside the tape that sits inside a plastic tube. Your so called "chamber".
I strongly recommend against purchasing a G3 if you were considering it. It is nothing like the Vapormax.
PLEASE, if you are or considering purchasing a G3 DO NOT. There is nothing I can do to this vape to make it safe/healthy to use.
There will not be a review of this vaporizer.
I would not try using it myself, let alone recommend it to anyone.
The G3 is a bust.
Once again I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS VAPORIZER AT ALL! IT IS PURELY A QUICK CHEAP KNOCKOFF OF THE INHALATER.
Do yourself a favor and buy a SAFE, HEALTHY alternative.
Buy yourself an Inhalater!
llamaman001
Well-Known Member
once again vape Dr. youve saved me money and provided useful info!
HillaryClinton
Future ruler of earth
WOW that looks deadly, might as well smoke at that point, would be much healthier...
NO ONE BUY THIS!
NO ONE BUY THIS!
Vape Dr.
Well-Known Member
@llamaman001 You are quite welcome. I wanted to tear it down fast before anyone pulled the trigger and bought one! I am glad you waited for my review before purchasing one. You would have been pissed!
I hope this "Over view" of the G3 will stop anyone else from contemplating buying one.
Shit Snacks
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KeroZen
Chronic vapaholic
Hmmm... isn't that the same tape we saw around the Vapormax bowl though? (and I saw some around the batteries inside my Ascent too)
This heating chamber is kinda unusual, at least it's not your average nichrome wire... I imagine that it heats the air flowing around it indeed, making it maybe more convection than conduction... Why would that tape be worse than the various plastics and silicone we have in other vapes?
As for the fumes, it's bad but nearly all portables do off-gas nasty stuff when new... Not always visible but the new vape smell is always present.
I don't know why I'm defending this stuff I don't even own though...
This heating chamber is kinda unusual, at least it's not your average nichrome wire... I imagine that it heats the air flowing around it indeed, making it maybe more convection than conduction... Why would that tape be worse than the various plastics and silicone we have in other vapes?
As for the fumes, it's bad but nearly all portables do off-gas nasty stuff when new... Not always visible but the new vape smell is always present.
I don't know why I'm defending this stuff I don't even own though...
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