Five Ways To Avoid Getting Busted For Pot

Vicki

Herbal Alchemist
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5 Ways to Avoid Getting Busted for Pot
How not to become a statistic in our nation's enormous, expensive war on marijuana.
April 9, 2012 |

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Each year, close to a million Americans are arrested for possessing marijuana, and many millions more are targeted and searched by police on suspicion of being a marijuana user. It's an incredible waste of limited law enforcement resources, and the experience of being harassed, arrested, and slapped with a criminal record isn't exactly getting rave reviews from anyone either. Heck, even cops are getting sick of this idiocy.

I've spent several years teaching the public how to deal with police. I've heard more than my share of horror stories from people who froze up when confronted by the cops and soon found themselves in the back of a squad car. When that happens, chances are it wasn't because they hurt someone, but rather, because they possessed a small amount of marijuana.

Now that half the nation is in favor of legalizing marijuana, there is hope that we'll soon see a day when none of us are placed in handcuffs for having a little pot in our pockets. But until then, those who use marijuana –- whether to treat an illness, or simply as part of a healthy lifestyle –- should have a plan prepared just in case they find themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time.
The following tips are designed to help responsible adults avoid becoming statistics in our nation's enormous, expensive and embarrassing war on marijuana.

1. Don't Consent to Searches
This is a pretty straightforward concept, but a lot of people get hung up on worrying how the officer will react. Don't. Just be cool and keep in mind that agreeing to a search will automatically lead to your arrest if you're in possession of marijuana. Refusing will often prevent the search, but even it doesn't, you'll have a better chance of winning the case once you get to court.

2. Don't Let Them Into Your House
If you enjoy marijuana, then you probably don't want police officers coming inside your house. Unfortunately, cops are quite good at convincing you to let them in. They might make it sound like you don't have a choice, or simply try to convince you they're not looking to get anyone in trouble. Whatever they say, your answer should stay the same: No. Unless they have a search warrant, they can't come in without your permission. Your best move is to politely explain that you're not letting anyone in without a warrant.

3. Ask if You're Free to Go
The longer your police encounter lasts, the greater the risk of something going wrong. If you refuse a search, officers will often say, "okay, wait here," or they might even threaten to "call in the dogs." What they won't tell you is that they may not actually have any legal authority to make you stay. Police need evidence (reasonable suspicion) to justify detaining you, and refusing a search doesn't count.

If you don't feel like hanging out with the cops, ask if you're free to go. If they say "yes," leave immediately. If they say "no," then you're being detained and they will need to prove in court that they had a legal reason to detain you. Even if they search you and find marijuana, the fact that you asked to leave before the search will improve your chances in court, because any evidence found during an illegal detention is not admissible. The legal concepts here get a bit complicated, but just remember that after you refuse a search you should also ask if you can leave.

4. Don't Do Dumb Stuff in Public
When the temptation to put fun before common sense takes over, the consequences can be quick and vicious. Knowing your rights can increase your odds of avoiding trouble, but if officers actually observe you committing a crime, the only tip I can give you is to call a good lawyer. If police see, smell, or hear evidence of criminal activity, that's all the grounds they need to search and arrest you.

Remember that good herb reeks, literally spilling a cloud of probable cause in every direction. Lighting up in cars, parks, dorms and other exposed areas is just asking for trouble. Some regions are more lenient than others, but don't push your luck, and don't assume it's okay just because you see others doing it. I've seen people get popped for pot in Berkeley of all places, so remember there are no drug-war-free zones in America yet. Be cool, and watch your back.

5. Don't Snitch on Yourself
It's tempting to think that honesty will win you some points with police. Heck, they'll even promise to cut you a break in exchange for a straight answer. But coming clean is a mistake you'll regret seconds later when they order you to put your hands behind your back. Most people don't think pot is a big deal, so it's easy for the cops to convince you they don't care about it either. But it's their job to bust you for pot, and they're allowed to lie if necessary to trick you into cooperating. If they didn't care, they wouldn't ask.

If police are asking you incriminating questions, just politely tell them you choose to remain silent until you've spoken with a lawyer.

This is the most helpful advice I can give for protecting yourself from the tricks police use to bust millions of Americans for marijuana. But remember that knowing your rights and watching your back will only get you so far. Escaping unscathed from a scary police encounter also requires controlling your emotions and remaining calm and cool.

Maintaining a relaxed attitude is the key to pulling off tactics such as refusing searches, asking if you're free to go, and declining to answer incriminating questions. Even if you do everything right, there's still a chance you'll end up in court fighting for your freedom, but your odds of winning will be far greater if you've calmly asserted your rights throughout the encounter.

I’d like to hear any strategies I might have missed. What's your favorite tip for preventing a pot bust?
 

SD_haze

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If you're driving a little (or a lot) high, OR you're riding dirty, make that the only law you're breaking.

Full 100% stops at stop signs & no speeding whatsoever, just go with the flow of traffic.

:tup:
 

turk

turk
....when interacting with the police...it's always to your advantage to be brief...if you are asked a question by the police, give simple one word answers whenever possible...this will help you should this get to the forum of the court...the less you say, the less that can be held against you later...
 
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Peloton

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I like this thread. I have little to offer about legal advice, although I do have a thing or two to say about not getting arrested in the first place.

When it's unavoidable to be "riding dirty" (such as when you're picking up) , at least be prepared. This can mean different things to different people. Personally, I only feel comfortable driving when everything incriminating I have is smelly-proofed and in a very well hidden spot I discovered deep up in my dashboard. Is it foolproof? Nope, but short of bringing in the dogs my stash is safe. My old car had a pretty nifty cavity that could be accessed by removing a handful of screws in the center console. Poke around your car a little, maybe you'll find a cool spot (or at least a few :2c: and gum wrappers) :rockon:
 
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Peloton

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This might be pretty obvious to most, but the best thing to do when first pulled over by an LEO is to remain calm. Just like many hairy situations in life, acting like you're doing nothing wrong and not being suspicious will get you out of so much shit. Don't be afraid to be nice, just don't be a kiss ass.

If pulled over for a traffic stop while high or holding (not smoking)... Don't get defensive at first, act normal! You know what's better than saying "NO" to a cop when he asks to search your car? Not having him search it in the first place, because you give him no probable reason to! Freezing up is the worst thing you can do - just go with the flow, answer a few questions, admit your wrongdoing, and be on your merry way. Of course, none of this will be relevant if say the LEO can smell the 1/2 oz of Sour Deez in your pocket, so this goes hand in hand with being prepared.

I totally agree with knowing your rights, and playing a little hardball when the shit hits the fan. But please, just use your head first.
 
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hogleg

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I like this thread. I have little to offer about legal advice, although I do have a thing or two to say about not getting arrested in the first place.

When it's unavoidable to be "riding dirty" (such as when you're picking up) , at least be prepared. This can mean different things to different people. Personally, I only feel comfortable driving when everything incriminating I have is smelly-proofed and in a very well hidden spot I discovered deep up in my dashboard. Is it foolproof? Nope, but short of bringing in the dogs my stash is safe. My old car had a pretty nifty cavity that could be accessed by removing a handful of screws in the center console. Poke around your car a little, maybe you'll find a cool spot (or at least a few :2c: and gum wrappers) :rockon:

The LEOs have forums about where to find/hide things and openly discuss all makes and models
 
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Peloton

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The LEOs have forums about where to find/hide things and openly discuss all makes and models

Whoa, really? Huh... that's good to know, thanks hogleg :). They really do have a forum for everything.

I still think that having your stuff hidden away as best as possible is a decent idea though, no? Just another layer of security.
 
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Peloton

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I disagree. If you admit you have cannabis, they will immediately arrest you.

Sorry for the confusion Vicki. I was referring to whatever non-mj related reason got you pulled over in the first place. Say you were speeding for instance, acknowledge that you might have been going a little faster than you should of been.
 
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hogleg

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a google of police gear forum can get you pointed in the right direction I found them just digging around one day
 
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Vicki

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Sorry for the confusion Vicki. I was referring to whatever non-mj related reason got you pulled over in the first place. Say you were speeding for instance, acknowledge that you might have been going a little faster than you should of been.

Ok, that makes more sense. :)
 
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AGBeer

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I think one of the first posts nailed it right on the head - Dont drive fucked up and/or dirty. Way more than half of arrests come from vehicle stops. It all starts with 'a broken taillight' and progresses from there.
Minimizing the risk in the first place is by far the best thing you can do IMO.

This here is damage control. Still solid advise nonetheless.
Oh, and officer dot com is a good resource to see whats happening in the police community. Some rather interesting postings up in there ;)
 
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Bleezy

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Hahaha, officer.com is the BEST!! Interesting to see things from their perspective, for sure.
To contribute to the actual topic: my motto is "just say no" to searches.
 
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Stu

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Wow. :o Reading this thread makes me feel really lucky to live in California.
 
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u bwade wunner

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we are having more and more roadside swab tests here and everywhere it seems.revenue raising :bowdown: hmmm.there is no way around this test or is there?

a friend told me he keeps a supply of those little mcdonalds honey pots you get with their breakfasts.
he just keeps them close by and before hes pulled over its straight into the honey like winnie the pooh.smears around his gums tongue etc.reckons it helps.Im happy mcdonalds are good for something :D

maybe someone can enlighten me.
prohibition taught us and them a lot.seems whatever limits/rules they put on things.people always find a way around. :rockon:
 
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u bwade wunner

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yes lots of them.We got stopped last week and my driver was tested .hes tea total so i laughed to myself as it was being carried out!.

In industry here they are becoming an everyday event.They tend to test workers though not so much management.

So to answer the threads question.what are the 5 ways?.I don t know.there aren t any ways if a govt backed test is produced roadside and you fail it.I think if you decide not to take the test its a cool $5000 fine thank you ca-ching

you gamble the day after the night before.if they suspect anything.out comes a test.I luckily have a wife and co worker who do the driving in full knowledge of my medication after work of course,never in work.

you will have heard this before,so i wont harp on but "Its" changed my life and everyone around me acknowledges that.I dont have any illness to deal with luckily.Its just it helps with general wellbeing and productivity.not such a bad thing is it?
 
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