Fats/lipids in crumbles

[california burrito]

Lately on Instagram I've been seeing people bashing crumbles, saying that in order for a concentrate to turn into a crumble, it has to contain fats/lipids that wouldn't be there if the concentrate was dewaxed. I wasn't sure what they meant, because I always thought crumbles were just shatters that had been purged/vac'd for longer and higher temps? Is there any physical damage to smoking fats/lipids if crumbles do indeed have them? And while I'm at it, does dewaxing leave a concentrate all sappy?

 

[215z]

I don't do crumbles or waxes, because they cost as much or more than the viscous oils that are lab tested @ higher THC% values. If crumbles, waxes, and honeycomb have less THC% than oils, what else do they have in them? I don't know, and I don't know if it is fair to assume lipids. But to me, it is a safe assumption, because inhaling lipids is a no-no. Lipid pneumonia sucks and has happened to e-cig users who vape a nic blend that uses essential oils for scent/flavor.

 

[LetsAllMeltDownTogether]

Lipids can cause harshness and coughing which is never good for your lungs. Some people believe that the lipids help retain flavor and prefer to keep them. Shatter means the material is fresh enough to still contain THCa.

 

[r-bot]

The claim that a concentrate has to have lipids in it to be a crumble is completely false.
Dewaxing is just removing a harmless impurity. Crumble can be achieved just as easily with dewaxed oil as shatter can be with unaltered oil.

 

[215z]

After taking all the trouble to winterize and dewax oil, who has the heart to whip it with a pin?

 

[Haywood]

Sometimes it's much easier to deal with crumble/wax than it is to deal with oil.

 

[063_XOBX]

Sometimes it's much easier to deal with crumble/wax than it is to deal with oil.

That's been my experience. Much easier to weigh for rationing too.

 

[215z]

The wax/crumble at the dispensaries I go to sit for weeks, if not months on the shelf. Do y'all perceive degradation over time? Maybe I'm being overly paranoid about oxidizing the magic oil.

 

[kingtut106]

The difference between what people call absolute vs basically everything else. Absolute has had these fats/lipids removed, typically using cold temperatures to separate the substances. Using solvents (polar or non-polar) allows the undesirables to drop out at the low temperatures. One solvent or two can be used that is preference and how advanced your setup is.

You can still obtain shatter having fats/lipids in your wax. The best way to tell if a concentrate has unwanted plant substances in it is harshness after a hit, dewaxed errl goes down like butter.

 

[Stiggy]

Whoever told you that crumbles must contain fats and lipids should be ignored.

Many people don't vac purge after winterizing or doing QWET extractions. Ethyl Alcohol doesn't have to be purged out completely. But, if you don't purge it out completely you will only think that shatter is all you can make with QWET or after winterizing. When I vac purge my winterized BHO runs long enough I get crumble or wax\budder. Whichever I'm going for really. I never whip manually, thats Busch League Bullshit. Manual whipping traps air in your product helping it degrade. Do budder correctly with vac purging and you get bubbless budder that doesn't contain air that will degrade your product as fast. From what I can tell from what I have made it seems to have pretty good shelf life with no perceived loss of potency, but its usually gone in under 2-3 weeks. You can get the same finishes from an absolute that you can with non winterized butane run. Sometimes I purge for 5-7 days, it all depends on the run.

The people on Instagram are simply ignorant fools regurgitating some BS they read somewhere and have no real experience with.

 

[2clicker]

i would like to add that shatter, wax, crumble, etc... are all OIL.

they represent different consistencies/viscosities, but are all oil (trichs are oil).

i see a lot of people saying things like "works with wax, but not oil"... when in fact wax IS oil.

 

[dannkk]

i would like to add that shatter, wax, crumble, etc... are all OIL.

they represent different consistencies/viscosities, but are all oil (trichs are oil).

i see a lot of people saying things like "works with wax, but not oil"... when in fact wax IS oil.

Very true. It's picked up a double meaning, though. They're describing it's state. When it is runny, and resembles an oil people are more used to seeing. I'm sure you understood that already, though.

 

[SD_haze]

The wax/crumble at the dispensaries I go to sit for weeks, if not months on the shelf. Do y'all perceive degradation over time? Maybe I'm being overly paranoid about oxidizing the magic oil.

A b s o l u t e l y!!

I've seen tons of dispensaries with some budder crumble that literally has zero smell left. They leave it under lights all day, 7 days a week, and no one buys it. Just sits there. Luckily, those clubs naturally go out of business and leave the ones with faster-turnover to do their thing.