Ever blackout for a few seconds while vaping?

[daddygreenjeans]

So I've recently purchased a Buddha vape (LOVE it) and have been working at getting the temps right and inhale speeds down.

The other day I got this crazy huge hit and the next thing I remember is my wife shaking me to wake me up. I had fallen out of my pc chair and landed face first on a metal floor heating vent. She was in the same room with me but chillin on the bed watchin tv. She said I just hit the floor like a ton of shit and it took me a few sec's to regain conscience.

So she wakes me up and I look at my hand and there's blood all over it and dripping down my face. I'm like WTF just happened, I really had blacked out like bad. I didn't even know what day it was for a few mins. The side of my face was all tore up by the floor vent and I could tell that a black eye would soon follow.

Sure enough the next morning I had a great shiner and it hurt like hell!

Now... this black out thing has actually happend 3 or 4 more times but I haven't fallen or hurt myself LoLs. It's like I take this huge hit and I black out for maybe 10 sec or so. When I come to, I'm just sitting there holding the whip in my hand and my whole body is just tingling.

Anyone else ever experience ANYTHING like this??? It kinda scares me... that maybe there's something wrong with my nogin or something? Maybe I'm having mini strokes? Who knows...

My wife did say that she thought it was funny and she wasn't worried as she's fell off a bed before doing the same thing, taking a huge rip.

 

[lwien]

Uhhh.......weed can really fuck with your blood pressure, especially if you are sensitive to these kinds of changes, or if you are taking other meds. Be careful.

 

[Lo]

Wow, that is scary stuff! Can you talk to your doctor about your mj usage perhaps? I can't imagine being in your wife's shoes watching you fall out....3 or 4 times. O...M....G! Please be careful!!

 

[daddygreenjeans]

So it makes the BP go up or down? That makes sense tho, the blackouts being BP related. But no one has ever had this happen to them? I know it's happened to me in the past but nothing to this extent. I though maybe the vapor had something to do with it vs. smoke.

*Note* I have an Rx for MMJ

 

[lwien]

So it make the BP go up or down?

Both, and that's the problem. When you're sitting down and you take a hit, your BP goes up. But then, after you take your hit, and you stand up, your BP can take a nose dive.

Are you taking any other medications that could affect your BP?

 

[daddygreenjeans]

Um Prozac and Klonopin (clonazepam) both for anxiety. Not sure if those mess with BP but I shall google...

 

[lwien]

Yeah, Prozac can raise BP and Clonazepam can lower it. And then, when you throw in the hi/lo BP that can happen with MJ, it can really throw you into a tizzy. You may not have noticed this when you're smoking, but when you vape, you are getting a bunch more THC per hit. Like I said, be careful. Mixing meds can be dangerous, and MMJ is a med. Some people can handle the mix but others may be a bit more sensitive to the BP changes.

 

[BcBud420]

wow thats crazy and too be on those meds scary , what the heck is with all these hack doctors loading people up on these chemical cocktails they don't need to take .

 

[Qbit]

wow thats crazy and too be on those meds scary , what the heck is with all these hack doctors loading people up on these chemical cocktails they don't need to take .

Although drugs like these may be overprescribed in general, you can't just assume that it's the case here.

 

[Purple-Days]

Yes I have blacked out twice from super huge hits. Super weed and a Super-Vapezilla combined. No other meds, I run a normal blood pressure. The black out also included convulsions according to Pammy.

 

[quomist]

Only once. When I felt it come on, my first instinct was to make it to the washroom. When I rebooted, I found myself sitting on the floor by the toilet.

 

[rbrown13]

It has happened to me once when I was younger but me and some friends were like hyper ventilating before taking hits and when I did it the next thing I remember is coming to with my face in a plant on the table, It was only for a split second.

Yes I have blacked out twice from super huge hits. Super weed and a Super-Vapezilla combined. No other meds, I run a normal blood pressure. The black out also included convulsions according to Pammy. cool

and I'll have what he's having.

 

[luchiano]

You need to eat food specifically whole foods like rice, beans, nuts, etc. to keep your blood sugar in check for a while and do it before you puff around 1.5-2 hours.

You should never puff on an empty stomach or after eating just just something simple.

If you need something right away just drink some orange juice with pulp and take some vitamin C with it. This will prevent the problems as well as get you higher as time goes on if you do this daily.

 

[lwien]

You need to eat food specifically whole foods like rice, beans, nuts, etc. to keep your blood sugar in check for a while and do it before you puff around 1.5-2 hours.

You should never puff on an empty stomach or after eating just just something simple.

If you need something right away just drink some orange juice with pulp and take some vitamin C with it. This will prevent the problems as well as get you higher as time goes on if you do this daily.

If the problem is low blood sugar versus low blood pressure.

 

[Cody420]

I have blacked out a couple times when I was younger from smoking blunts but never from vaping. It was probaly because of what the guy above me said, not having any food and no water.

 

[tdavie]

So it makes the BP go up or down? That makes sense tho, the blackouts being BP related. But no one has ever had this happen to them? I know it's happened to me in the past but nothing to this extent. I though maybe the vapor had something to do with it vs. smoke.

*Note* I have an Rx for MMJ

MJ *can* make the BP go up. Not necessarily though. Under certain circumstances if you are sitting or lying down taking hits and your BP rises transiently, when you stand up you may experience temporary low blood pressure. It's called orthostatic hypotension. I'm on some BP meds so I'm always careful when I stand. It tends to happen 3-4 times a week, and usually within an hour or so of taking my meds.

Please, write down your symptoms and discuss them with your doctor.

Tom

 

[The_Other_Shoe]

I have no info as to why all of this happens, but can relate with personal experience, even just last night. I drove to my friends house and hit the PD a few stems in the car to be able to go in and have a nice hello. I remember hitting it hard; pulling the entire stem in one hit cycling vapor out my nose and taking a new hit. I "woke up" and for a second couldn't move. I say woke up, because it felt like I had been asleep, but that was not the case. Very tingly and interesting, fun experience considering I had only fallen back onto the seat of my car, nice and cushy.

 

[Frickr]

ive had this happen on occasion. either with a bowl loaded with keif, or hash. infact i was getting this feeling after every hit the other night when we were vaping some wand hash out of the ssv at a friends house. granted its nothing as intense as described above. i mearly feel the "knockout" coming on after holding for a few seconds, and notice my vision turning into a black tunnel. when i get to this point i let out my hit, and take a big breath of fresh air.

when i was getting this back to back, i contributed it to standing while hitting the surfer. which is something new as i am normally sitting. i was able to get a lot larger hit then if i were sitting down (lungs expanding more able to drive the vapor deeper). i just wrote it off as a lack of oxygen to your brain. but man i was higher then i have been in a long while.

 

[DevoTheStrange]

All of my MJ related blackouts had to do with the high quality of herb and extremely large hits. I've had experience similar to frickr. To large of a hit from really good herb leading to tunnel vision that can either go away once the hit is released or it leads to a black out if I don't let it out in time.

First time I encountered this is when I hooked a gravity bong up to the extreme and loaded a bunch of keif into it. I tried to hold in in as long as I could and it dropped me.

 

[fail]

Great thread!

This is new to me that someone can pass out from a weed. As already sad, this is for sure the BP. Get a personal BP device and monitor your BP for a few days every few hours. May be you have hypotension.

I had various extreme stuff happen to me, but did faint only once from a blood loss. It is a very cool experience! One moment I was in the bathroom standing and the next moment I was woken from a pleasant dream lying in a narrow space between the bathtub and the toilet.

BTW, you say that you take Prozac and Klonopin for anxiety. This sounds really extreme. What kind of anxiety is this that you must take this stuff? Did you try improving your diet? There are basic things in your diet that must be addressed before starting to the take pills. Stuff like improving/increasing the protein consumption like Whey and Casein, also Omega 3 fish oils should be taken regularly. Eight percent of your brain compose of Omega 3s and you must constancy replace what is lost. Omega 3s must come from fish as the plant stuff is no good at all. Coconut oil should be the only plant oil you use. This is only the basic stuff and the list can continue and expand into a book.

 

[Purple-Days]

I'm not sure you can say all of this is temporary hypotension. I'll get back to that. I'm no expert.

Other than the two times with vapor I have had this experience floor me once before with smoke. Wicked Jamaican! I was at the wheel. Yep you know what followed. We (not Pammy) were very fortunate. It was a moderately paced country drive. 30 mph maybe around a long right hand bend. The bend straightened and I didn't, right off into an 8 foot deep drop off. The whole thing was netted with strong vines. I 'came to' in a nice frame of mind, but couldn't figure why my buddy was looking down at me or why his passenger door was above his head. We had gently rolled 3/4 and the driver door was down and I was laying on it.

As to what causes it, I'm not sure. Could be temporary and immediate lowering of blood pressure. As in dropped beats, or just lower contraction strength though I lean toward sudden tachycardia. I also thought this was a possible air quality issue when I had only had the smoking experience to go by. I figured the other really bad crap in smoke combined with the greed a really good strain induces and the 'hold it to get it all' attitude. But the vapor repeats of the episode convince me IMO that it is the sudden onset of the THC that induces the episode rather than the air quality (lack of O2 + bad CO and CO2).

Devo is absolutely right, these episodes , in my case, have been brought on by amazingly good weed, Jamaican and the other two with Cup winners. They have also, in each case, been induced by hits that were held just a moment too long, But, I was a swimmer and have the lungs to go 2 minutes underwatter, these were episodes brought on within 5-10 seconds of inhale.

I have a heart arythmia. Not all the time, but it happens. Normal blood pressure, great diet and excersise (most of my life). Maybe there is a medical reason, for some folks, maybe it's THC, but I think it is a high dose. Every single time this has happened to me I was sitting down.

ps. Hate to be a spoiled sport, but I think this is a potentially lethal driving scenario. Therefor i also believe nobody should use THC in any way, and also use machinery like an automobile or other potentialy lethal devices. We provide our car adapter for transport use only, not for use while driving. Distracted Driving is stupid!

 

[HighSti]

This has happened to me as well but only once in my life so far. I was at home about 20 min after (smoking :/) with my buddies. It was some decent weed I must say because I was having a hell of a time watching some random show on tv. Anyway, I got up off the couch and noticed that I felt a bit sick, similar to symptoms of the spins (which I have only had once as well). I went to the refrigerator and proceeded to have a glass of milk and sit down in hope it would make me feel better. Next thing I know, I'm laying on the floor being shaken awake by my friend.

My friend claimed that the glass of milk had fallen over and that my head just kind of dropped as if I had fallen asleep. I did not fall but my friend had put me on the ground to wake me up. He also said that it took about 30 seconds for me to re-enter a conscious state.

I can defiantly conclude that its blood pressure related and that at that moment my blood pressure dropped below where it should have been. Getting up off the couch quickly must of had something to do with it because I felt fine before I got up. I'm not so sure how the cannabis attributes to the event but I know it played its own part. I do also have a normal blood pressure so I don't see it as a health concern but rather an instance in which my body wasn't able to react fast enough to the need of different blood pressures.

Haven't had anything similar happen since or before and Ive been consuming cannabis for a few years now so I guess if it happens again then it may be of some concern. Hope it doesn't happen again..

 

[jumpman29]

That must have been pretty intense waking up on the floor to the sight of blood...

I haven't any similar experiences from vaping before, but I have blacked out from too high a dosage from some edibles I baked. It's most possibly related to the mixing with other meds in your system as mentioned before, so I would most definitely consult a doctor because this isn't something you want to happen.

 

[manchild]

Never happened while vaping but have had it happen when smoking bongs.

It usually happened to me when there was too much tobacco in the mix and as described earlier it's like looking through a tunnel that gets smaller and smaller until lights out.

I could stop it from happening by putting my head down between my legs or crouching down with my head horizontal when i felt it coming on. I also had this happen for a while as a kid when i stood up too quickly. So for me it seems like it's definitely a blood pressure thing.

Most important thing is if you feel it coming on, put the bong/vape down

 

[luchiano]

Yes, low blood pressure occurs but the reason is because taking in a lot of the cannabis at one time gets the body going and releases glucose is a major way that the body can keep moving and doing it fast because fats don't allow energy to be used fast enough. That is for long term.

Think about what happens when you smoke strong cannabis or take in a lot at one time. You get fatigue, cold or feeling a little cooler than normal, black out, anxiety, crave sweets. This sounds like low blood sugar to me.

Eating around an hour before you puff will keep your blood sugar normal but you can't just eat some steak and think you'll be ok because steak has very little sugars so it won't prevent blacking out. You need whole foods like nuts and rice and beans because they are filled with protein, complex carbs(sugar is released for a long time) and good fats(nuts).

Also just eating some sweet stuff isn't going to work if you puff some strong stuff because the sugar will be used up fast by your system and you will have no more to keep you going after the rush and guess what happens when your body need quick energy to maintain an equilibrium once your muscles call for it. BLACK OUT.

Another way to prevent this is doing resistance exercise to train your body to process the sugars efficiently and you will always have a high reserve in your muscles. Doing cardio right after will also train your body to process fats efficiently so you will stay high longer instead of the cannabis oils being put into fat cells to be released later on and in small amounts.