Errlectric Concentration Station
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jesuswillis
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I put a tape on the coil and it seems like the coil is 16mm. I was hoping someone else had butchered their expensive coil before I try it.
Does anyone know if the coil plug is proprietary?
Looks like I am going to be the guinea pig, although I might wait until I can afford to buy a new coil first if it does go wrong.
herbivore21
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I've often wondered about this one myself actually!
I have the Errlectric coil that is made for the InfiniTi nail by HE. It is a barrel coil with a threaded piece pressed into the coil. I would basically need to buy an InfiniTi and the SiC dish to try this. I am worried that it would not transfer heat well because the coil will rest on the threaded insert and never really touch the coil.
sweetherb
Well-Known Member
Me too! I was even considering getting in touch with dnail to see whether they could make me a coil for the errlectric to use with their sic halo.
jesuswillis
Well-Known Member
Have D Nail been known to make specific coils for other units? Ive just seen the flat coil liger v3 which looks very efficient with the new coil housing.
Maitri
Deadhead, Low-Temp Dabber, Mahayana Buddhist
Keep your eye on our website for the newest addition to our product line: the Errlectric MobilEnail! Once added to our site, www.errlectric.com, your order will be placed in que with 1-2 weeks shipping time. Thank you for supporting our US business, US employees and US supply chain! #MobilEnail
MobilEnail fits in your back pocket and is coming soon! Where would you take your portable?
alittledabwilldoya'
Sapphire Powered Dabstronaut.
FYI, I pulled these photos and their associated captions off Errlectric's Instagram page today. Pretty cool...
Keep your eye on our website for the newest addition to our product line: the Errlectric MobilEnail! Once added to our site, www.errlectric.com, your order will be placed in que with 1-2 weeks shipping time. Thank you for supporting our US business, US employees and US supply chain! #MobilEnail
MobilEnail fits in your back pocket and is coming soon! Where would you take your portable?
It's on!!!
http://www.errlectric.com/index.php...-listing/product/1801-errlectric®-mobilenail®
herbivore21
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Very nice! Is this still limited to errlectric nails/barrel coils though? I'd love one of these but only if I can use it with my existing nails - Errlectric just don't offer any nails that compare to SiC and Sapphire!
Same nail choices. Although the coils will probably be different voltage from the plug-in unit.
alittledabwilldoya'
Sapphire Powered Dabstronaut.
Yep, but they're are 12V specific, only for the portable.
And the portable won't support "regular" Errlectric nails.
No surprise there, I have an Auber 12V unit that also a specific nail because of the voltage differences.
Yes.
And I would too, but only on SiC or Sapphire.
I thought about picking one up to use with my DNail Halos + the Auber 12V flat coil that I have, but ...
It looks like the Errlectric uses a proprietary plug for their 12V nail heater and the Auber heater won't fit.
Not the biggest deal in the world, as I have a pretty streamlined travel nail set-up now; but it's not as small (or combined into one unit) as the new Errlectric portable.
Errlectric seems to have the best controller, but in all honesty, they needs to start to catch up in the materials department.
Machine some complete SiC nails or at least SiC inserts for the current Ti nails.
Someone on this board must have bought a portable by now ... 'fess up!
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herbivore21
Well-Known Member
Errrlectric's achilles' heel has always been the limited choice of nails IMO. The controller has always been of very high quality of course!Yep, but they're are 12V specific, only for the portable.
And the portable won't support "regular" Errlectric nails.
No surprise there, I have an Auber 12V unit that also a specific nail because of the voltage differences.
Yes.
And I would too, but only on SiC or Sapphire.
I thought about picking one up to use with my DNail Halos + the Auber 12V flat coil that I have, but ...
It looks like the Errlectric uses proprietary plug for their 12V nail heater and the Auber heater won't fit.
Not the biggest deal in the world, as I have a pretty streamlined travel nail set-up now; but it's not as small (or combined into one unit) as the new Errlectric portable.
Errlectric seems to have the best controller, but in all honesty, they needs to start to catch up in the materials department.
Machine some complete SiC nails or at least SiC inserts for the current Ti nails.
Someone on this board must have bought a portable by now ... 'fess up!
They released their product at a time when folks were all about quartz bangers with barrel e-nail coils. Actually Errrlectric's banger came out a while after I had decided that even the most expensive quartz e-nail bangers - like the Pukinbeagle Deep Dish Banger - were actually not great at all with an enail (and that quartz is itself a material from yesteryear for dabbing). Inefficient heating of the floor of the dish from barrel coils is a big problem for quartz bangers in an enail (obviously when used with a torch this is not the same problem). Usually requires jacking the heat up more and leads to serious hotspots on the sides as well as parts of the dish that are not hot enough!
The problem is the walled garden Apple-style proprietary heater coils/nails. If you can't use anything except the company's own nails, then it is on them to have the most superior nails available! Otherwise the proprietary design is a shot in the foot.
Of course errlectric could easily resolve this by releasing more conventional and widely compatible coils that work with all kinds of enails
For the portable, obviously different coils and voltages are a factor too. This is where I think errlectric really need to work on a purpose made (for portable enail) next gen nail material design so that the next portable e-nail can really hold it's own against existing enails! I think the above solution with standard coils designed for errlectric XLR connections would be their best bet for quickly bringing the desktop enails to compatibility with next gen nail materials
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herbivore21
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I noticed the steep price too (not quite 1k but damn near that with the FQN!). I guess this is because it is one of the first of it's kind. To be fair, the battery setup could conceivably be expensive and so I don't wanna be too hard on the price of the controller itself - which I don't think is unreasonable. The price on the portable controller is quite reasonable.
The prices of nails with coils is very steep though (their quartz banger and the coil costs more when purchased with a controller than the abovementioned pukinbeagle one cost me with a 20mm d-nail coil bought without a controller bundle discount!). When considering that the nails on offer are not just expensive, but made of last gen materials, we can see the problem. When we realize that there is no other option but the pay the nail prices to be able to use the controller, the problem becomes clearer still.
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sweetherb
Well-Known Member
Errrlectric's achilles' heel has always been the limited choice of nails IMO. The controller has always been of very high quality of course!
They released their product at a time when folks were all about quartz bangers with barrel e-nail coils. Actually Errrlectric's banger came out a while after I had decided that even the most expensive quartz e-nail bangers - like the Pukinbeagle Deep Dish Banger - were actually not great at all with an enail (and that quartz is itself a material from yesteryear for dabbing). Inefficient heating of the floor of the dish from barrel coils is a big problem for quartz bangers in an enail (obviously when used with a torch this is not the same problem). Usually requires jacking the heat up more and leads to serious hotspots on the sides as well as parts of the dish that are not hot enough!
The problem is the walled garden Apple-style proprietary heater coils/nails. If you can't use anything except the company's own nails, then it is on them to have the most superior nails available! Otherwise the proprietary design is a shot in the foot.
Of course errlectric could easily resolve this by releasing more conventional and widely compatible coils that work with all kinds of enails
For the portable, obviously different coils and voltages are a factor too. This is where I think errlectric really need to work on a purpose made (for portable enail) next gen nail material design so that the next portable e-nail can really hold it's own against existing enails! I think the above solution with standard coils designed for errlectric XLR connections would be their best bet for quickly bringing the desktop enails to compatibility with next gen nail materials
Thank you for also summing up my thoughts in your post. I use my errlectric regularly and the controller is fantastic. But I too really want to dab off SiC or sapphire. Come on errlectric, it's time now!
herbivore21
Well-Known Member
So much better my friend. I still remember the first time I took a dab on a SiC halo after thinking that 20mm super expensive quartz was as good as it got! My mind was blown. Same again trying sapphire. There are quartz designs that are much nicer than a quartz banger enail too, by way of being able to get the heat more evenly around the quartz. The Liger with quartz insert, the Quartz Halo (although SiC is cheaper and much better IMO) are examples. These examples by all accounts are better to varying extents in preserving the flavor for longer into the hit and minimize trails. Quartz halos can crack if you overtighten the nut even a little though.
SiC is just a relief in terms of durability. You would have to be downright reckless with a SiC nail to break it! It also allows you to dab at insanely low temps (especially a SiC halo with flat coil - but even the Liger which will require higher temps on your enail's dial to get the same temp onto the SiC insert inside will get the same equivalent temp where your dab hits the dish
, new bigger flat coil Liger should be really good at getting the heat onto the SiC!).Sapphire is very spendy and not for everyone for that reason alone. It also needs to be treated like a precious item and can be broken in a number of ways that people might reasonably expect to be able to treat other kinds of nails. It is my clear preference over any other material (and only nail I ever dab on). It feels like unmasking the flavor. You need to dial the temp in somewhere between SiC and Quartz of the same dimensions/design.
Man they need to have showrooms to let people try all the different nails lol!
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i hope to try both SiC and Spphire sometime. @herbivore21 i can always count on you to renew my hope that there is always something better on the horizon.So much better my friend. I still remember the first time I took a dab on a SiC halo after thinking that 20mm super expensive quartz was as good as it got! My mind was blown. Same again trying sapphire. There are quartz designs that are much nicer than a quartz banger enail too, by way of being able to get the heat more evenly around the quartz. The Liger with quartz insert, the Quartz Halo (although SiC is cheaper and much better IMO) are examples. These examples by all accounts are better to varying extents in preserving the flavor for longer into the hit and minimize trails. Quartz halos can crack if you overtighten the nut even a little though.
SiC is just a relief in terms of durability. You would have to be downright reckless with a SiC nail to break it! It also allows you to dab at insanely low temps (especially a SiC halo with flat coil - but even the Liger which will require higher temps on your enail's dial to get the same temp onto the SiC insert inside will get the same equivalent temp where your dab hits the dish
Sapphire is very spendy and not for everyone for that reason alone. It also needs to be treated like a precious item and can be broken in a number of ways that people might reasonably expect to be able to treat other kinds of nails. It is my clear preference over any other material (and only nail I ever dab on). It feels like unmasking the flavor. You need to dial the temp in somewhere between SiC and Quartz of the same dimensions/design.
Man they need to have showrooms to let people try all the different nails lol!
mmhhoo
New Member
Couldn't you use errlectric's 'inifity coil" with a InfiniTI nail and the sic or spahire dishes? If I understand correctly it threads onto the infiniTI nail and providess heat from contact with the bottom of the dish. A friend of mine used this with the regular ti dish and it worked well so I imagine it would work the same with other dishes.
This has been discussed. I have the Infiniti coil but I'm not sure if it will achieve enough heat transfer. I don't have any parts to attach anything to the infinity coil.
So much better my friend. I still remember the first time I took a dab on a SiC halo after thinking that 20mm super expensive quartz was as good as it got! My mind was blown. Same again trying sapphire. There are quartz designs that are much nicer than a quartz banger enail too, by way of being able to get the heat more evenly around the quartz. The Liger with quartz insert, the Quartz Halo (although SiC is cheaper and much better IMO) are examples. These examples by all accounts are better to varying extents in preserving the flavor for longer into the hit and minimize trails. Quartz halos can crack if you overtighten the nut even a little though.
SiC is just a relief in terms of durability. You would have to be downright reckless with a SiC nail to break it! It also allows you to dab at insanely low temps (especially a SiC halo with flat coil - but even the Liger which will require higher temps on your enail's dial to get the same temp onto the SiC insert inside will get the same equivalent temp where your dab hits the dish
Sapphire is very spendy and not for everyone for that reason alone. It also needs to be treated like a precious item and can be broken in a number of ways that people might reasonably expect to be able to treat other kinds of nails. It is my clear preference over any other material (and only nail I ever dab on). It feels like unmasking the flavor. You need to dial the temp in somewhere between SiC and Quartz of the same dimensions/design.
Man they need to have showrooms to let people try all the different nails lol!
I agree with all of this. I just had a friend tell me he was about to pick up a Quave banger. I said PLEASE come hit this Liger with sapphire and/or SiC dish before you do. I told him even if you torch the thing you will love the flavor!
One hit off of the SiC at 600 degrees and he was sold. Then I let him hit the sapphire at 530...He said Quave Who?!
That being said my SiC is tough as nails and the one I would suggest Errlectric look into for their next insert.
The sapphire is THE BEST but it is a connoisseurs device for sure. It has to be handled with care and can't be abused like SiC or even quartz can. Errlectric's controller is awesome and their new portable is great but their nail is a bit outdated next to Dnail's and CCA products IMO. Whoever is running that R&D department over there coming up with that bad ass portable should look at upgrading the actual dab surface so they can stay "top of the line" without replacing the actual nail. With other high end controllers in the same price point with more features like Hex-nail coming up, Errlectric will have to do that to keep up IMO.
Did anyone get that Mobilenail for testing?I would like to hear some reviews and battery life! Here is my "poor man's mobilenail" lol
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NickDlow
Log Hog
Hey folks, I totally agree about errlectric needing to set up their nail game to match their controller.
Anyway I was contacted by my guy at Cannoisseur with some pretty good news. Here's a bit of the email he sent. He had asked me to inform you guys and I'm too lazy and tired to put it into my own words lol.
"I’m writing because the Errlectric Mobile Nail is getting released this Friday and I wanted to make a special offer to you and the FC Forum members.
To celebrate the release of Errlectric’s Mobile Nail, we have made a new discount code for FC members which will give them an extra $100 off of our already discounted price. The coupon code is ‘FCMOBILE’. It expires at the end of the month and only applies towards the Errlectric Mobile Nail. There is no limit on the use of this code and the discount will apply to each Mobile Nail in the cart if someone is buying more than one.
Since the Mobile Nail is a new product from Errlectric all orders will be shipping directly from the Errlectric factory to speed up the fulfillment process. Fulfillment times may vary based on demand and so we will post the estimated ship date or the processing time on the product page on our website to keep customers up to date"
https://cannoisseur.com/collections/shop/products/errlectric-mobilenail
Hopefully this helps someone jump on it for us. Personally I probably wouldn't use it much besides in the car on long trips. But if I had some extra scratch lying around I'd go for it. Enjoy guys and gals.
Anyway I was contacted by my guy at Cannoisseur with some pretty good news. Here's a bit of the email he sent. He had asked me to inform you guys and I'm too lazy and tired to put it into my own words lol.
"I’m writing because the Errlectric Mobile Nail is getting released this Friday and I wanted to make a special offer to you and the FC Forum members.
To celebrate the release of Errlectric’s Mobile Nail, we have made a new discount code for FC members which will give them an extra $100 off of our already discounted price. The coupon code is ‘FCMOBILE’. It expires at the end of the month and only applies towards the Errlectric Mobile Nail. There is no limit on the use of this code and the discount will apply to each Mobile Nail in the cart if someone is buying more than one.
Since the Mobile Nail is a new product from Errlectric all orders will be shipping directly from the Errlectric factory to speed up the fulfillment process. Fulfillment times may vary based on demand and so we will post the estimated ship date or the processing time on the product page on our website to keep customers up to date"
https://cannoisseur.com/collections/shop/products/errlectric-mobilenail
Hopefully this helps someone jump on it for us. Personally I probably wouldn't use it much besides in the car on long trips. But if I had some extra scratch lying around I'd go for it. Enjoy guys and gals.
I just ordered the MobilEnail with Full Quartz Nail now so the reviews will be coming soon. The "fcfriends" discount code is still active as well for the Errlectric website. It is good for either 23% or 25%, I forget. It comes out to $622.93 for the FQN version. It is $499.73 for the standard Ti version.
So I got my Errlectric MobilEnail yesterday. I opted for the FQN banger/heater. As I fully expected, this thing is amazing. It functions exactly as the plug-in 110v version. I am running it at 620F and it will run for 2 HOURS solid at that temp. You can leave the unit on but shut off the heater between dabs for even more extended run times. The charger is fast and will recharge in 1-4 hours. It heats up to temp in under 2 minutes. And knowing myself, it did not take long for me to venture from the mundane to the absurd! (If you consider single nail dabs mundane)
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