Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2011

willieR

Been here since 2009
Quote from MPP: Today, a handful of visionary and courageous Members of Congress, led by Rep. Barney Frank, introduced the "Ending Federal Marijuana Prohibition Act of 2011," a bill that would treat marijuana the way alcohol is treated under federal law. It would give each state complete freedom to regulate marijuana in the manner it believes is in the best interests of its citizens. If a state wants to make marijuana available to patients, it can. And if it prefers to make marijuana legal for all adults, it can do that, too.
 
willieR,

MajorDoobage

Stationary Traveler
Ahhhhh in a perfect world this bill would pass. Unfortunately we live in the good ol' USA, where money and greed takes precedence over what ought to be done :(. I doubt this will ever pass. Way too much money is at stake.
America:
About 5% of the world's population and about 25% of the world's prison population
-"Despite that initial defeat, Correction Corporation of America since then has successfully expanded, as have other for-profit prison companies. As of December 2000, there were 153 private correctional facilities (prisons, jails and detention centers) operating in the United States with a capacity of over 119,000."
-"half of all persons incarcerated under state jurisdiction are for non-violent offenses, and 20% are incarcerated for drug offenses (in State prisons, Federal prison percentages are higher)."

Oh and don't forget about keeping minorities down:
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Take NYC for instance
"Whats happening is that disproportionate numbers of black and brown young men, ages 16 to 29, are being duped into publicly revealing their allowable marijuana and then being arrested, thereby gaining a criminal record, advocates say. Police officers will say, Empty your pockets! turning a routine stop into an arrest and a police record.
'In 2010 in New York State, there were 54,000 marijuana arrests 50,000 of them came from New York City, and surprise, surprise from neighborhoods that primarily are black, Latino and low income, says Kyung Ji Kate Rhee, executive director of the IJJRA. Its not like these individuals had a felony charge and marijuana happened to be an additional charge Youre telling me that 50,000 had marijuana in plain view? Does that sound right to you? After that initial point of police contact, they trick you into turning out your pockets.
The NYPD did not respond to requests for comment. (The Root)'"
http://valetudocafe.wordpress.com/2...inorities-for-marijuana-heres-how-they-do-it/

Even if this bill passed, it's still up to the states to decide whether Cannabis should be legal or not. Who knows how long some states will hold out.
 
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VWFringe

Naruto Fan
coe-inky-dink, i got this link in the email just now:
Ask your representative to co-sponsor Rep. Frank's bill.

I signed it, and included a link to my rep so he could read the report that was submitted to the UN recently, the one about how the former world leaders support legalization to take the world in a different direction than it's been going, so I hope by pressing the point thru these petitions we keep it in their minds that we know about this report, and we know they're dragging their heels about this and have been. Tell it from the mountain, amen.
 
VWFringe,

MajorDoobage

Stationary Traveler
VWFringe said:
coe-inky-dink, i got this link in the email just now:
Ask your representative to co-sponsor Rep. Frank's bill.

I signed it, and included a link to my rep so he could read the report that was submitted to the UN recently, the one about how the former world leaders support legalization to take the world in a different direction than it's been going, so I hope by pressing the point thru these petitions we keep it in their minds that we know about this report, and we know they're dragging their heels about this and have been. Tell it from the mountain, amen.

Signed and posted on my Facebook page. Thanks!
 
MajorDoobage,

stroh

errl enthusiast
VWFringe said:
coe-inky-dink, i got this link in the email just now:
Ask your representative to co-sponsor Rep. Frank's bill.

I signed it, and included a link to my rep so he could read the report that was submitted to the UN recently, the one about how the former world leaders support legalization to take the world in a different direction than it's been going, so I hope by pressing the point thru these petitions we keep it in their minds that we know about this report, and we know they're dragging their heels about this and have been. Tell it from the mountain, amen.

i too wrote a message to my rep. while i am doubtful that this bill will pass in this day and age, at the very least this is a sign of changing times, and i strongly believe full legalization will happen in the next 5-10 years
 
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VWFringe

Naruto Fan
I hope they listen to the reasoning, but think things will remain the same until more of the population pushes them to listen.

I wonder sometimes whether we prefer public enemies, like the Roman's who enjoyed the Colosseum...would we continue to use prisons if we found out they do the opposite to people that we put them in there for?

One thing's for sure, as every politician says, "make us." These changes don't come from the top, they get forced to the top by the people. for this reason, we have to be the squeaky wheel, and push them all the time.
 
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willieR

Been here since 2009
VWFringe said:
One thing's for sure, as every politician says, "make us." These changes don't come from the top, they get forced to the top by the people. for this reason, we have to be the squeaky wheel, and push them all the time.


People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people.
- V for Vendetta
 
willieR,

VWFringe

Naruto Fan
that clip of Tommy Chong kind of skirts the main issues tho, but it's the only dialog they seem to put on TV...stoner vs law abiding citizen, portraying us as some sort of special interest group for self-indulgent cripples.

but nothing about the negative effects of it being illegal (Mexico's dead for instance)

nothing about why so many kids are pushed into rehab by courts without regard to whether they have a problem, and how those numbers play out as recidivism

nothing about justifying the status quo of a war against it's citizens and how many people's paychecks depend on the war on drugs...just like the military industrial complex relies on keeping the armed forces fat
 
VWFringe,

rotax

Zaporist
Vaporgin. said:
jimbo said:
weedemon said:
good luck my American friends!

I second that! Chong and Chabot having a pleasant discussion on this issue
I hate to say it but that kind of portrayed tommy as a dumb irate stoner.

Yeah, thats the feel I got from it too...and I think, probably, what the douche bag [opponent] was after too with his reaction.

When it comes down to it, the world needs to realize the "stoners" are not the primary factor here.

LEGAL industrial hemp should be promoted and put into the spot light IMO..
The only thing people know or care about right now is that "marijuana/cannabis/weed equals *stoners*" and nothing more.
Hemp is HUGE; for farmers, for producers, for consumers, and for the enviromentalists. The economy behind it would have a huge potential.. And no, I'm not just talking about THC harvesting...

Get the world to recognize what HEMP can do for us.
Food, Fuel/Oil, Plastics, Packaging, Paper, Clothes, Medicine (yes, this is different than "recreational" highs), and of course Recreation and Spiritual/Mental Enlightenment, and so on...

Yep, so you're going to have to be honest with your kid about "cannabis" now, just like alcohol/tabacco...oh no, as if its not something you should already do with a kid anyway..


The more I learn/read about hemp's potential, the more it sicken/saddens me that it remains ILLEGAL....and simply due to the fact that someone wanted to make their profits off their tree farms/land they owned at the time....go figure. When will $$ stop making the world go round? When we bring it to an end?


Legalize, educate, inform~
 
rotax,

stroh

errl enthusiast
i agree, tommy could have brought up some better counter points, such as kids having a harder time getting MJ if it was taxed and regulated, and how marijuana is less addictive than tobacco and fucking caffeine! Do we have rehabilitation centers for tobacco smokers and coffee drinkers? NO, so why should we waste our tax dollars on rehab for pot smokers? im sorry, but if you find yourself having a serious life altering addiction to marijuana, you are kind of pathetic. Most of the people in rehabilitation centers for marijuana are there due to legal reasons, such as avoiding a harsher punishment anyways. That Chabot dude was a straight up brainwashed tool, and i feel bad for his children.
 
stroh,

willieR

Been here since 2009
I like the format of the video, BTW.

I don't like it when there's a TV program about MJ and they show some strung out addict, clearly with other mental issues. Quit showing me people who clearly have serious mental issues, but just happen to smoke pot. Quit showing me people that look homeless, look 12 years old, or otherwise creepy. As if this is the only demographic that smokes, or everyone who smokes will eventually turn out this way.

Why not show us an engineer relaxing by the BBQ at night? Or a physician? These people obviously enjoy MMJ also.
 
willieR,

willieR

Been here since 2009
VWFringe said:
it's rather upsetting they can shut it down that easily, just by blocking it getting any hearing... and that we're blocked from emailing the congressman who's behind it just because we're not in his district

Agree it is frustrating. If the congressperson is involved with larger national issues, such as this one, we have every right to contact him / her.
 
willieR,

OO

Technical Skeptical
If anyone got the copy/paste response from hunter and wants to see what i said in response, send me an email.
 
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