E-Cigarette (not for THC use)

[Orestes]

I love a good clear drip tip. Seeing it milk is so much fun, as we vapers well know. Sadly, my two newest tips are not clear:

And thanks for the pics VW! That's a cool mod. Haven't really seen anything like that before.

Isn't there a meet in Las Vegas in a few months? I could definitely do a vapemeet. And then we could have like a mini 420 vapers meet. We are the ultimate morally superior futurists-- Of smoke-like emissions, anyway.

 

[jeffp]

I've sampled over a dozen juice vendors, not to mention my continuing foray in to DIY juice.

But my favorite juice is still the RY4 by voidmist. It's a rich, decadent, buttery flavor that comes through better than any other juice i've tried. It just explodes in your mouth.

My second favorite is Erskine by Joogler Juice. It's a tobacco flavor with somethng else going on; sort of half way between floral and fruity. Indescribable, but fantastic. Quite flavorful.

My third favorite is Bronze with Maple Syrup, by Voidmist. The bronze base is a medley with easily half a dozen flavors, pineapple, apple, and so on. The maple syrup rides in like magic. It's so good, especially in the morning.

oh and voidmist has a crazy coupon right now: MAY10_60%OFF which gets you 60% off until may 10. Last night I bought 84 MG of juice for $24 including tax and post. 30ml bottles are like $6 or something insane like that

Joogler has a coupon for $5 off of your first order; find his thread on ECF for info

.. just in:

Hello from Void Mist!

We are running a sale on all products. Please use apply one of the coupons in the shopping cart.

JUN25_40%OFF - for purchases $15 and more.

 

[VWFringe]

I know no one's around here, but tonight I went to E-Cig City in Laguna Beach, picked up dual-coil cartos ($1.94) and 306 LR atty's ($6)

enjoying having fresh attys, will try a Coke soak for the old ones, see if it revives them

and drip bottles, finally got all my juices out of marijuana containers and into drip bottles

gotta go back when there's more time, nice shop

 

[JDSupreme]

enjoying having fresh attys, will try a Coke soak for the old ones, see if it revives them

I do an overnight iso soak...works better than coke or other random cleaning ideas IMO

 

[Lo]

I too have done the ISO soak to clean attys. Sometimes they go back to functioning well, other times I just toss them. If I get 3-4 weeks out of them I feel I've gotten my money's worth plus I LOVE new atty day ROFL!!

@Jeff I have sampled some Totally Twisted liquids. They are good. Haven't tried MadVapes liquid but I've bought hardware from them and send folks there regularly.

Lately I'm on a pineapple kick. Really digging pineapple from BombayVaping.com

 

[VWFringe]

Coke has food grade phosphoric acid, I think it'll eat a penny if you soak it overnight

I guess no sense waiting to buy Coke, so started them in ISO and ultrasonic, Thanks,

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#EDIT: Woot! ISO in ultrasonic overnight DID work!

 

[jeffp]

I too have done the ISO soak to clean attys. Sometimes they go back to functioning well, other times I just toss them. If I get 3-4 weeks out of them I feel I've gotten my money's worth plus I LOVE new atty day ROFL!!

@Jeff I have sampled some Totally Twisted liquids. They are good. Haven't tried MadVapes liquid but I've bought hardware from them and send folks there regularly.

Lately I'm on a pineapple kick. Really digging pineapple from BombayVaping.com

I'll have to try pineapple down the line. Totally Twisted juice is in my opinion alot more balanced and flavorful than for example Totally Wicked's juice. I tried Totally Wicked's "Patriot Range" and didn't care for it yet it was hyped up on their site as sublime. MadVapes is just overall very cool although for attys I now only buy from Cisco.
I use this box mod alot - it was on sale for $18 until recently; still worth it at normal retail price:
http://www.madvapes.com/2xAA-Box-Mod-with-slow-change-LED_p_2501.html

Would love it if there was a lanyard sized for a box mod; I keep dropping mine on sidewalks and it's only a matter of time...

Lo - at what point do you toss an atty? Do you want til it's dead or earlier?
Cisco recommends vodka and not ISO for cleaning. I did a 91% ISO soak on an 510 yesterday and I did get a good result from it.
I get about two good solid weeks and then one or two "just ok" weeks with an atty.
Still, when you reason that an atty cost about $8 even if you tossed an atty every two weeks, which I don't, it's still very inexpensive especially compared with the financial cost of smoking.

 

[Lo]

I also use the Cisco atomizers (LR306's), he came to Vapestock and was actually here last summer too...class act that guy..really a stand up dude.

I generally get a good 3-4 weeks out of my atomizers but towards the end I notice a drop off in performance. I have tried vodka, everclear as well as coke/pepsi and a certain mouthwash folks talked about cleaning attys with. Meh...honestly most often I'd end up tossing the attys but I did find alcohol sometimes brought some back to life. I still prefer to get a new one though when performance isn't up to par though, I feel less satisfied with a crap atty. I think there are many variables to time as we all vape different amounts and even different kinds of juices or flavorings can change performance. Nothing better than new atty day lol. Overall I spend much less now than I did as a smoker even with some expensive mods I've bought. Couple weeks I'll be 2yrs smoke free!!

 

[hatecraft]

My attys usually last a month or longer. I just make sure to blow them out every night before bed. Well, actually, I've recently switched back to cartomizers since the dual coils came out. My faves are the Madvapes clear dual coils:

http://www.madvapes.com/Dual-Coil-Clear-Mega-XL-Cartomizer_p_3124.html

I usually get 5 days (of heavy vaping) out of them and then just pitch them since they're so cheap.

 

[DubCRider]

Back to the original question of using an E-Cig for vaporizing THC......

www.OneLoveEJ.com

A pre-loaded glycol base tincture in a throwaway E-Cig.

 

[VWFringe]

googling the "One Love" lead me to a comment posted by "One Love" who wrote that a cannabis PV exists, and pointed me to this info:

Organa Labs makes CO2 oils, sub-lingual sugar pills infused with oil, and cartridges for two branded PV's (though I believe they'd work on any PV):

Canna cartridge for the AtmosRx
with 100 MG of THC, ~175 puffs

MedaVape
with 50 MG active cannibinoids, up to 100 puffs

I sent them the following questions, and will summarize their response here:

I'd like to know how you prepare the oil for use in a PV. Is it mixed with VG or PG, and just generally are there any problems with separation over time, and how do people characterize the medical properties of the experience (how strongly or lightly medicated over a ten minute session)?

I'm guessing they should hold it in as long as possible, as with other vaporizers, is this correct?

...and the $64,000 question: does vaping in a sub-strate of VG or PG mitigate the absorbtion by increasing the droplet size, thus limiting aborbtion to the upper bronchial tract and mouth, as with nicotine e-juice in an e-cig? or are the actives carried separately in the vapor stream once the phase change occurs?

Thank you,

i hope they answer, lol EDIT: no response as of 7/2/11

EDIT: all the retailer locations are listed in Colorado...man, gotta love what they're doing with MMJ

 

[DubCRider]

Good questions, I can't wait for the reply.

 

[hatecraft]

I doubt they'll answer you, but it is worth a shot. Looks like a regular 510 and a cartomizer. My buddy tried QWISO and then put it in VG one time, but alas, it did not work. Finding a way to get the THC in either VG or PG and making sure it is well delivered into the system is gonna be like finding the holy grail.

 

[DubCRider]

I took two pulls off the sample One Love at the Medical Cannabis Cup and was pleasantly surprised. You can also email Mike directly at mike@oneloveej.com, he was the guy I chatted with at the booth.

 

[DubCRider]

My co-worker just took two small pulls off the One Love and said she felt like she just took a bong rip. She is not the heaviest of smokers but knows her stuff. It smelled like an edible when she exhaled, but not strong. She also said it tasted like an edible.

I'm sold!

 

[lesvape]

That one love looks fairly legit, curious to know if they will make a refillable cartage model. Plus curious to know if their atty is running hotter than the typical atty.

 

[DubCRider]

I'm getting 10 tomorrow night, 8 extra strength and 2 magnum. The max I can get is 24. They are a Colorado based company but still in town after The Cup. I'll take apart the one I got Sunday once it is done and take pictures for you guys to dissect. I don't know anything about E-Cigs or their parts so let me know if you want to see something pictured a certain way once I post my pics.

Just took 5 pulls after a two hour volcano session with my buddy and am definitely more medicated than befor! I did however max it out or something because about 2/3 through my pulls the blue light on the end started flashing and went out(guessing that's the atty getting too hot?). Either way, it produced a thick vapor and got me lifted.

 

[lesvape]

Thanks would be looking forwards to see what the difference are(non-camera phone pics would be optimal).

I wonder if the AtmosRx is using a stronger atty vs the standard EGO models? If not then I want to know what they are using because I want to get some to use on my E-cig.

 

[WatTyler]

googling the "One Love" lead me to a comment posted by "One Love" who wrote that a cannabis PV exists, and pointed me to this info:

Organa Labs makes CO2 oils, sub-lingual sugar pills infused with oil, and cartridges for two branded PV's (though I believe they'd work on any PV):

Canna cartridge for the AtmosRx
with 100 MG of THC, ~175 puffs
http://www.organalabs.com/images/atmos.jpg

MedaVape
with 50 MG active cannibinoids, up to 100 puffs
http://www.organalabs.com/images/medavape2.jpg

I just looked at their site, but still can't quite get my head around the dosage issue that has been mentioned before. Not saying it doesn't work or anything though- just 'thinking aloud'....

My thinking is that their pills are a 10mg dose, but that's edible, so not really comparable perhaps.

Their Co2 Honey Oil works out at 40mg/0.1g. So a 'dose' is around say 20mg? 0.05g 'dab' of oil? (I don't really know; we don't really get much oil here, except what I've made myself and I've never weighed it)

Their medavape E-cig is 50mg over 100 puffs- so only 0.5mg per puff. And only slightly more in the whole E-cig than you'd get in just 0.1g of honey oil. So quite a slow delivery- 40 puffs to inbibe the same quantity as a single 0.05 dab of honey oil.

This isn't even accounting for any possible reduced absorption potential due to the the physical characteristics of PV vapor (that whole big droplets not absorbed in lungs line of thinking).

So on paper I'm still a little skeptical as this dosage issue doesn't seem to have been addressed, but I'm keen to hear user reviews.

 

[DubCRider]

The guys at One Love say the extra strength is equivalent to an eighth of herb. I'm meeting a rep for them tonight and will try to ask all these questions.

 

[WatTyler]

Nice one DubCRider.

I would query that too. Depends what 'equivalent' actually means. 1/8th of mids bud @ 10% THC should yield 0.35g, which is 350mg (I think- is that a justified and sound calculation from bud%THC to mgTHC ?)

If the One Love is the same as the Medavape shown in VWFringes post (which it might not be as that's disposable) and a similar strength/capacity (50mg/100 puffs), it would need 7 to contain as much THC as in that 1/8th of mids bud.

Maybe it's something to do with the chemical process- maybe reducing the THC down further, if that can even happen. My chemistry sucks. I know next to nothing. But I do know that I don't inhale anywhere near 350mg if I vaped 1/8th in a session, and I'd be pretty dammned stoned. So maybe a 100mg cartridge can be 'equivalent' to an 1/8th if it's delivered efficiently?

Maybe someone who knows more chemistry could add a little more certianty to my calculations?. I'm sure the rep will give the you answers tonight. But don't forget he's a salesman though ( said without a patronising tone I've just a dose of sceptisim about this as it's such a good idea but so hard to achieve. It could be worth a fortune if/when it is sucessful IMO)

1 more query you might want to make- on the description on the Oragna labs websire it says for one e cig '50mg of active cannabinoids' and on the other description '100mg of THC'. I'm assuming that they just mean THC in the first instance, rather than a range from the active cannabinoid profile? Or the other way around?

 

[WatTyler]

edit; double post

 

[DubCRider]

I'm at work until about 6pm but if someone has the time to lump all of the One Love questions in to one post I will be able to get answers easier.

 

[FLskwat]

I'm at work until about 6pm but if someone has the time to lump all of the One Love questions in to one post I will be able to get answers easier.

I'll do my best for my buddy, John, you know that! :

-is it PG or VG
-is is synthetic cannabinoids or natural
-the process tto make the e-liquid
-what do they mean by equivalent to an eight...

Guys please quote me and add your questions to the list!

 

[DubCRider]

Thanks G-Money!!!!

I doubt they will tell me how they make it though, that seems to be the big secret.