Dynavap M7xl & hash

[RustCohle_Ita]

Hello everyone,
I'm new to vaping and to FC, and I'm looking to buy my first device.

I've read a loooot of threads about the best options for vaping hash (traditional hash, usually soft), which is what I mostly use. I'm still quite confused, but I'm currently thinking about going with the Dynavap M7 XL + Ispire Wand combo.

I'm leaning toward this setup instead of the Vapman because it feels more similar to smoking, seems more durable (though the Vapman would still be a solid alternative), and for just €30 more I can get the Ispire Wand, which would let me be more discreet on the balcony and is easier to use.

I would have preferred an electronic device like the Solo 3 or Hecata Hex for simplicity, but it seems they're not ideal for vaping hash (please correct me if I’m wrong!).

Anyway, I need your help with a couple of questions:

1. Is this a good setup for €180 shipped (within Europe)? Is it too expensive?
   (I could just start with a torch, but then I’d still have to pay €10 for shipping, €20 for a decent torch, etc.—so I’d only be saving about €60. And if I decide to get the Wand later, I’ll have to pay another €10 for shipping again.)
2. Most important: Can I use hash directly in the bowl without a Dynacoil or vape wool/cotton bacon?
   Some people say yes, others say no. Vape wool seems to be necessary for electronic vapes, but I’m unsure about the Dynacoil—should I be worried about it getting ruined or too dirty?

 

[Flotsam]

Hello and welcome to FC
that sounds like a great price for that combination.
I have a Dynavap M7 but have never tried hash in there so nothing to add on that question. I mostly vape flower (DHV) but have used my M7 to vape concentrates using the little Vapor Genie pads i got from that. That i can report works fine.

 

[Hippie]

I always use a pinch of vaping cotton to stop the screen clogging up

The ballr cap is very good for more airflow and bigger resin hits - you need to be careful not to overheat on the reheat tho

 

[nicknobody]

Nothing I’ve tried comes close to the vapman for vaping hash. It’s the clear winner imo.

 

[simba]

You can get more hash in the bowl with the Dynavap, but personally I prefer the Vapman with the concentrate screen for hash.

Although the Dynavap is good with hash as long as you don't mind the extra cleaning. The Vaponic is also a good option and much cheaper.

 

[RustCohle_Ita]

Vapman was my first pick, but after watching a few comparison videos, I switched to the Dynavap. It feels more versatile and durable to me, produces thicker clouds, and at a similar price point, I get the added bonus of induction heating—which I’m really interested in.
That said, I believe both devices handle hash quite well.


My main doubt now is whether I can achieve similar results with an electronic vape, which I’d actually prefer for ease of use—especially thinking about flower use in the future. I’m considering something like the Solo 3, a cheaper Pax Plus, or even a desktop unit like the Arizer V-Tower, since portability isn’t a big concern for me.
Unfortunately, a lot of interesting models like the E-Nano or vaponic aren’t easily available here in Europe.


One more thing: do I need to use screens in the Dynavap like with the Vapman? And is it really that much harder to clean?


EDIT I've just seen that Inhale has the Vapman Click Classic on sale for €120 and the Lotus for €99. The latter might actually be a great option too… although, being a convection vape, I'm not sure if it's suitable for hashish.

 

[simba]

Unfortunately, a lot of interesting models like the E-Nano or vaponic aren’t easily available here in Europe.

Not sure what you mean about the Vaponic as the official shop seems to be European

Vaponic Kit, red - Solwe Online Shop

Vaponic Kit with red marker shaped transport case 2-year Solwe® warranty More videos and user guide on www.vaponic.com!

www.solwe.com

The Enano is easy to buy in Europe, you just have to eat whatever import charges you get landed with. Although IMO with the Enano XL it's absolutely worth it.

 

[T9R]

The latter might actually be a great option too… although, being a convection vape, I'm not sure if it's suitable for hashish.

The Lotus is a really solid option for hash. One of the best IMO. You just have to add a little more heat and take slightly slower draws.

I'd say that the biggest con is the subpar concentrate pad that they have for it.

 

[RustCohle_Ita]

Not sure what you mean about the Vaponic as the official shop seems to be European

Vaponic Kit, red - Solwe Online Shop

Vaponic Kit with red marker shaped transport case 2-year Solwe® warranty More videos and user guide on www.vaponic.com!

www.solwe.com

The Enano is easy to buy in Europe, you just have to eat whatever import charges you get landed with. Although IMO with the Enano XL it's absolutely worth it.

I thought it wasn't the official shop — I didn't check carefully, thank you.
It's very cheap and it is good to try vaping... maybe not so easy or convenient to use though, gets hot easily and isn’t very practical to rest on surfaces. This is what I read, not sure if so different by others

As for the E-Nano, I'd prefer to avoid surprises with customs duties since I'm not sure what to expect.

The Lotus is a really solid option for hash. One of the best IMO. You just have to add a little more heat and take slightly slower draws.

I'd say that the biggest con is the subpar concentrate pad that they have for it.

You're definitely right, but since I have to choose one, I'm really undecided about which is the best option to start with, without regrets in terms of value for money.

Vaponic for €40, Lotus for €100, Vapman Click Classic for €130, Dynavap with Wand for €170.

At the moment I'm using 90% hash; for flowers, I'll consider something more suitable in the future, if needed

 

[T9R]

You're definitely right, but since I have to choose one, I'm really undecided about which is the best option to start with, without regrets in terms of value for money.

Vaponic for €40, Lotus for €100, Vapman Click Classic for €130, Dynavap with Wand for €170.

At the moment I'm using 90% hash; for flowers, I'll consider something more suitable in the future, if needed

Vapman should be the general recommendation for a hash vape IMO. Either the 2.0 or Click. The Vapman 2.0 is arguably a bit better suited for hash, but the Click is more fool-proof.

However, one thing that you might want to consider is if you think you'd prefer a conduction (Vapman), convection (Lotus) or hybrid (Vaponic) vape. A Vapman will for example be slightly more stony and sedative compared to a Lotus.

 

[RustCohle_Ita]

Vapman should be the general recommendation for a hash vape IMO. Either the 2.0 or Click. The Vapman 2.0 is arguably a bit better suited for hash, but the Click is more fool-proof.

However, one thing that you might want to consider is if you think you'd prefer a conduction (Vapman), convection (Lotus) or hybrid (Vaponic) vape. A Vapman will for example be slightly more stony and sedative compared to a Lotus.

Thanks for your advice.
Among those three devices, I think I'll go with the Vapman Click.

I guess that means you’d also prefer avoiding the Dynavap with the Ispire Wand, even if it costs just €20 more than the Vapman, right?
May I ask if that’s mainly because of the flavor, the way it hits, or the cleaning/maintenance?

I’d also like to avoid any device that requires too much lung effort just to get decent clouds.

 

[T9R]

I guess that means you’d also prefer avoiding the Dynavap with the Ispire Wand, even if it costs just €20 more than the Vapman, right?

Dynavap is certainly not a bad choice per se, but I personally think there are better options available, yes.

May I ask if that’s mainly because of the flavor, the way it hits, or the cleaning/maintenance?

A big plus with the Vapman is that you only need the concentrate sieve to vape hash - no hemp fibre, flower bed or anything fiddly. It's a very simple process to get it ready/put it away.

You also get connoisseur level flavor, smooth hits and easy maintenance (unless you neglect it, then it becomes a bit of a mess over time). It's just a winner when it comes to vaping hash IMO.

I’d also like to avoid any device that requires too much lung effort just to get decent clouds.

Vapman is pretty easy on the lungs and has minimal restriction, but it's definitely not a cloud monster. It works best as a sipper and among these options it's probably the least impressive in terms of vapor production.

 

[simba]

As for the E-Nano, I'd prefer to avoid surprises with customs duties since I'm not sure what to expect.

It is very simple to look up import charges for your country, it doesn't need to be a surprise.