Dormant high? I spend lots of time alone

sanman

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Hoping I have the right subforum section to post in. A bit confused. Maybe give me a hint for when to use Ask FC or idk. I'm zoned out right now and best not to overthink (as I do, but my head is resting now).

Bottomline of topic (read paragraphs below for further info). Anyone activate a high on a day they didn't intake cannabis?

Short background. I toked with a buddy years ago. Got a buzz a couple times. Once took a huge hit way too hard holding the carb and left reality. And I'm generally one to question things, which made drifting into a high a bumpy ride. I need downers and the uppers seem to f**k me up. I'm realizing that I was probably fighting the drug and it gave me those reboots of consciousness. Very scary with deja vu. I don't have giggly highs, but maybe it's the drug or my approach to utilizing it.
And there was another time a year ago with someone else I went overboard again.
Now that I'm on my own doing this alone and have my own material (which happens to be indica), I'm doing alright. I'm really learning a lot. A bit hesitant to get sativa uppers since I'd guess that when you're off a drug it has the opposite impact. Yes, you can use it to jumpstart and even out your mind's balance, activate the weaker sides. In my case, I think I need sedative effects to rest and then use my natural energetic self. But I'm unsure what to do as my usage grows exponentially greater now and hoping I'll be able to fix my mental health and dial back my dosage without insomnia again.

But now to the point. After those huge doses (big scary incidents where I left reality), I recall falling into highs when telling someone about it. Topic came up at my laboring job where we all (me especially) barely got sleep. Telling the story, the deja vu kicks in all this time later and my mind gets into some weird dizzy state again. And a person might wonder if I'm joking as usual. Another instance, I'd smell the bag of a friend smoking and feel high. Maybe there was ambient smoke too.
I've spent many years more or less alone and finally am in a job where I can meet people. Almost a bad thing since having a carrot dangled in front of you is torture. If a girl walks by with that shy look (looking away, but walking in my presence), possibly trying for attention, it's worse than being with the laboring man crew. But it's probably good to get some social life as therapy, just as buddies, so I'm working on getting time get to know this girl or others to just express ourselves and hopefully chill.
I spend so much time in my own head. Either that or physical exertion in the gym or jogging in the cold with bare exposed skin. My thyroid condition, adrenal fatigue, lack of sleep, everything made me feel like I was watching a tv as my eyes.
I've been vaping and using edibles lately and try to make sure I ease off dosage for the afternoon and evening before work the next day. Like, feeling semi-sober when going to sleep. And waking up sober. But my body seems to store the cannabinoids for activation. Like when I get home I feel high. When I'm heading to bed, I might activate a particular brain program that draws the cannabinoids.
But damnit when it happens at my job. I just hope it'll never be a big one. So far it's mild and possibly even a good thing as long as I'm doing something familiar. It might calm me from anxious lonely thoughts especially when that girl walks by but is too shy to say hi certain days (I'm pretty sure I'm not misreading). Or other girls or guys.
Is this two different things? I'm wondering if those 2 big incidents did something to my system that activated on rare occasions when I was so sleep deprived I was basically high anyways. Maybe those were psychosomatic. But feeling high at my job... I'm so confused if this is in my head, if there's hibernating cannabinoids, maybe my brain can get high on its own. I might sound like a mess but I'm alright, just overthinking. Time to toke! Enjoy today, take it easy with feeling lonely and ride it out, toke, and make sure I'm not too high at work.
I drank a Kombucha tea that has residual alcohol. Man, that does wonders for anxiety at my job haha. I'm already kooky and circles under my eyes, and I probably function better a bit loose (thus I seem significantly less f**ked up than when I'm sober).
 
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HomeFree

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Being sleep deprived is not much different than being inebriated. It's not in your head (as in it is a fairly universal effect of sleep deprivation). Make sure to catch enough Z's unless you always want to feel weird like that. Sleep is unfortunately necessary if you want to remain coherent. Don't forget that the body makes endogenous cannabinoids and other neurotransmitters itself. Push yourself physically and you can get a runner's high. I'm not sure exactly what happens during sleep deprivation but there is probably information out there.
 
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sanman

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Yeah. I'm wondering if that alzheimer's feeling when I stand up or go through a door could be a combo of utilizing my endocannabinoid system (by vaping&edibles) and creating more active neuro-pathways (or whatever) that can act on their own. Like, maybe I could get that weird feeling any day of the year if I think of "just that right trigger" (or smell) and BAM, but greater effect and probability if I've been recently using cannabis.
Gotta cut back on sugar munchies. Gonna have to make big healthy meals to store in my freezer. Make sure I'm sleeping well, maybe try it sober. Gotta make sure my environmental triggers stay assigned properly; for example, being in my apartment is now associated with being dizzy high. Probably gonna try out some sativa in low amounts soon.
Will check up on my other medical conditions too. Cannabis seems to have chilled me out enough to feel better, but I better keep some cash on hand for a follow-up with my holistic doctor.
 
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hibeam

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Maybe some other substance is messing with your head. I say this because I think my blood brain barrier is super LEAKY. I have severe metabolic issues from some genetic polymorphisms, mutations, so some foods will really put me in an alternate headspace, anything from simple brain fog to seeing trails almost like on acid (experimented decades ago). I have narrowed it down to certain foods. Anything in the nightshade family, like tomato or bell pepper, might have a trippy effect. When my intestinal flora is off balance from anything I do not digest well, I get terrible brainfog, lose all sense of direction and ability to concentrate on anything. Driving can be too risky.

Cannabis contrasted with food for me has a very predictable affect. Sativa strains can cure my brainfog, but I also need probiotics, especially ruterii.
 

sanman

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Thanks, gentlemen (or whatever). Y'all are top notch. I feel so at home here.
Yeah, I'm working on improving my health and experimenting, as I'm sure many are. Lots of it is in my head and environment, so I'm working on recovering from my usual ways and focus on new approaches internally and externally, affecting myself and my environment. It's a cycle that feeds itself as all the pieces improve and it starts functioning. Getting the system running and get on top of it is a challenge, but I like challenges. Funny thing is the hardest challenge is for me to accept that I've actually got things good for once aside from having buddies outside work (which could be an important piece, but I gotta chill either way).
Like I said, mostly in my head. But I did order some stuff and done reading to improve my gut and I'm working on diet.
I'm getting stable, things inside and outside me are coming together. I've just acquired a couple more pieces of A+bud including some sativa dom to try. Balance. I often feel like a creepy robot when I'm walking alone, but light up talking to other people. I'm working on giving my number to someone right now. Regardless, everything is in place and I just gotta wait (no more thinking).
As for the tiredness and weird highs that my mind creates, I've gotten used to being more passive and happy thoughts on my trips. So the weird shit hasn't been happening, and I'm practicing not summoning it back while sober. I go into a high so I can dig deep and instill things. And when I'm out, I reap what brain plasticity did. I'm sure there's so many possibilities and I'm gonna be excited. I've been able to straighten out my back like chiropractor, which is so interesting that body posture and facial muscles are connected to the mind. So amazing.
 

CNYC

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It sounds to me like those two bad trips creeped you out enough to make you conscious when you are high. I will refrain to use the word panicky but you know what I mean.

I find that if I go to bed at 12am I would need to stop getting high by 8pm to give my body enough time to come down and therefore tire from the up and down of the buzz. THC can very much have a stimulant effect both Sative and Indica from my experience. Just being high creates brain *acitivity which can be hard to shut off when you want it to.

Just last week I got into some trouble by doing low doses of edibles everyday for a week. Even though the doses were low the high went on and on for hours. I wasn't tired enough to sleep through it so each day my body got more worn out from not resting....but I kept getting high. Finally by Thursday sleep deprivation kicked in and lets just say I felt like shit !

Other times I have followed the same edible routine and slept like a baby EVERY DAY because I was so worn out from running around all day.

The body...and yes even stoners need exercise. Walking is a great mellow way to get your sweat on. Make it a habit and it will ease much tension in your stoner life and work life. Good sneakers are a must.

Stay Healthy !
 

herbivore21

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Hoping I have the right subforum section to post in. A bit confused. Maybe give me a hint for when to use Ask FC or idk. I'm zoned out right now and best not to overthink (as I do, but my head is resting now).

Bottomline of topic (read paragraphs below for further info). Anyone activate a high on a day they didn't intake cannabis?

Short background. I toked with a buddy years ago. Got a buzz a couple times. Once took a huge hit way too hard holding the carb and left reality. And I'm generally one to question things, which made drifting into a high a bumpy ride. I need downers and the uppers seem to f**k me up. I'm realizing that I was probably fighting the drug and it gave me those reboots of consciousness. Very scary with deja vu. I don't have giggly highs, but maybe it's the drug or my approach to utilizing it.
And there was another time a year ago with someone else I went overboard again.
Now that I'm on my own doing this alone and have my own material (which happens to be indica), I'm doing alright. I'm really learning a lot. A bit hesitant to get sativa uppers since I'd guess that when you're off a drug it has the opposite impact. Yes, you can use it to jumpstart and even out your mind's balance, activate the weaker sides. In my case, I think I need sedative effects to rest and then use my natural energetic self. But I'm unsure what to do as my usage grows exponentially greater now and hoping I'll be able to fix my mental health and dial back my dosage without insomnia again.

But now to the point. After those huge doses (big scary incidents where I left reality), I recall falling into highs when telling someone about it. Topic came up at my laboring job where we all (me especially) barely got sleep. Telling the story, the deja vu kicks in all this time later and my mind gets into some weird dizzy state again. And a person might wonder if I'm joking as usual. Another instance, I'd smell the bag of a friend smoking and feel high. Maybe there was ambient smoke too.
I've spent many years more or less alone and finally am in a job where I can meet people. Almost a bad thing since having a carrot dangled in front of you is torture. If a girl walks by with that shy look (looking away, but walking in my presence), possibly trying for attention, it's worse than being with the laboring man crew. But it's probably good to get some social life as therapy, just as buddies, so I'm working on getting time get to know this girl or others to just express ourselves and hopefully chill.
I spend so much time in my own head. Either that or physical exertion in the gym or jogging in the cold with bare exposed skin. My thyroid condition, adrenal fatigue, lack of sleep, everything made me feel like I was watching a tv as my eyes.
I've been vaping and using edibles lately and try to make sure I ease off dosage for the afternoon and evening before work the next day. Like, feeling semi-sober when going to sleep. And waking up sober. But my body seems to store the cannabinoids for activation. Like when I get home I feel high. When I'm heading to bed, I might activate a particular brain program that draws the cannabinoids.
But damnit when it happens at my job. I just hope it'll never be a big one. So far it's mild and possibly even a good thing as long as I'm doing something familiar. It might calm me from anxious lonely thoughts especially when that girl walks by but is too shy to say hi certain days (I'm pretty sure I'm not misreading). Or other girls or guys.
Is this two different things? I'm wondering if those 2 big incidents did something to my system that activated on rare occasions when I was so sleep deprived I was basically high anyways. Maybe those were psychosomatic. But feeling high at my job... I'm so confused if this is in my head, if there's hibernating cannabinoids, maybe my brain can get high on its own. I might sound like a mess but I'm alright, just overthinking. Time to toke! Enjoy today, take it easy with feeling lonely and ride it out, toke, and make sure I'm not too high at work.
I drank a Kombucha tea that has residual alcohol. Man, that does wonders for anxiety at my job haha. I'm already kooky and circles under my eyes, and I probably function better a bit loose (thus I seem significantly less f**ked up than when I'm sober).
Brother I'm so glad to hear you trying to reintroduce yourself to other people in your daily life, it'll be good for your mental health to meet good people.

I wonder with this sensation of 'storing' the high that you seem to get if you are getting substantial reserves of cannabinoid storage in body fats and then when you do physical work as a laborer you are burning off said fat and reintroducing said cannabinoids into your bloodstream? This is a potential explanation for some of your experience although it may only be one of many factors.
 
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sanman

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Hey, guys. Gee, Im always floored at such a community. I end up saying that nearly each post.
Im learning so much and think it's a lot about brain plasticity. When high, I, myself, use the cannabis and make decisions. I tended to question my surroundings too much and cycled into that deja vu panic those first times, but now can get really high and avoid that part of my brain.
So I'm navigating inside my mind. Even different kinds of weed I am able to usually get into a similar sort of high if I focus on internal or external things. Like opening the maintenance door on a machine and being conscious of oneself. I'm often too serious and I don't run around all silly, though I decided to lighten up and smile, which triggered the body-brain connection and I followed that path.
I can focus on feeling my body and aligning parts which in effect benefits organs and everything. I can focus on opening my eyes so I'm neither introspective of my body or mind, rather an activity at hand or replacing my racing thoughts with awareness and the sound of chirping birds. That last one is difficult for an insomniac like me who overstimulates to drown myself in thoughts or sweat. My body is likely lacking the balance of serotonin and somethings of that nature. I get time to myself, I get laughs, I get physical, I gotta work on social and things like slow peaceful walks. I'm either racing with thoughts, racing with heartrate, acting a bit loosey goosey with low blood sugar or staring at a wall. I've got next to zero time with a real person who knows who I am and am still nervous walking out my apartment as if I'm an alien freak. So I stand tall and become awesome, keep myself walking to my job or the gym, then savoring that moment between when I clock off work with my uniform hat off with freedom to get one last interaction in (anything) and then I'm gone. Notice, I didn't just say elsewhere; I'm nothing but that uniform these days. I get to enjoy my own goofy company, but it's maddening (yet enjoyable) being stuck with Sanman 24/7. Ain't that right, Sanman? Pass the tea for the tea party, Sanman.
Nah, but cannabis has been a big help. People probably thought I was tired and goofy before, asking if my personality (and energy) and red eyes were from drugs. But ironically I feel more normal and healthy due to some factors including cannabis opening the hatch to my mind. So it's what you do with it. Brain plasticity. I use it like a tool, not a toy. I'm so tired. I'm gonna add that to my list, tweak lifestyle to improve sleep and directly practice letting my brain find rest. Good luck to all of you. Whether it's for an afternoon giggle vacation too, because we all need a bit of something we're missing.
 
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