Does this happen to you?

[William]

Ive heard people say that vaping doesn't give you that couch lock feeling or that when you vape you don't get a drowsy sleepy feeling but every time I vape I get super sleepy and lethargic. Im using the MFLB so maybe I need to suck air faster so it doesn't get as hot? Or possibly its the strain im smoking (unknown) Anyone else have this problem?

 

[SD_haze]

Do you know how fresh your material is? If it was cropped out a while ago it will have a lot more CBNs compared to THC which would explain a lethargic effect even with vaporizing

 

[William]

Yeah im sure its pretty old. Its some decent mids but has been compressed into a brick. Every single time I vape I just feel super tired. I need some of that fresh bud!

 

[lreindl]

Definitely try a fresher strain . If you have the option, try to go for cannabis sativa to avoid that couch lock feeling.

 

[William]

Around KY there are no options. Its either 5/g brick weed or 20/g dank. It sucks ass around here but its all there is.

 

[lreindl]

Go for the dank! Higher quality material means less per load.

 

[Vicki]

Ive heard people say that vaping doesn't give you that couch lock feeling or that when you vape you don't get a drowsy sleepy feeling but every time I vape I get super sleepy and lethargic. Im using the MFLB so maybe I need to suck air faster so it doesn't get as hot? Or possibly its the strain im smoking (unknown) Anyone else have this problem?

I vape kief out of my MFLB all the time, and that will always make me want to pass out if I do too much!

 

[William]

Haha the dank is just so expensive! If im vaping only tho that does mean ill be conserving more. Im looking at getting the da buddha very soon. Wise investment? I have a MFLB already but I am wanting a desktop vape aswell and the da buddha seems to be a good, tough vape.

 

[Tweak]

Get you a scope of some kind, take a look at them trichs yourself. If most are amber its definitely the medicine.

I have a stereo microscope and it's so much fun, it's a whole new world when you get that close.

 

[harmudge]

I feel like that a lot after a couple of bowls.

 

[William]

Get you a scope of some kind, take a look at them trichs yourself. If most are amber its definitely the medicine.

I have a stereo microscope and it's so much fun, it's a whole new world when you get that close.

Ill have to try this. Amber means that its been stored a while? Trichs are supposed to be white/clear correct?

 

[Tweak]

Amber means that its been stored a while? Trichs are supposed to be white/clear correct?

The color depends on time the grower decides to harvest. But as the bud sits and cures, they will still continue to change from cloudy to amber. Clear trichs are an indication of too early.

So your half right, .

 

[William]

Ahh I see I see. Well I will try to look at some trichomes tonight. Im almost positive this ganj is the reason for the lethargic feeling.

 

[OO]

It doesn't matter the maturity or age of the material, honestly.

If you just inhale quicker to lower the temperature the effect will not happen.

But if you do get into the higher temp range, then you will get the sleepies.

 

[SD_haze]

It doesn't matter the maturity or age of the material, honestly.

If you just inhale quicker to lower the temperature the effect will not happen.

But if you do get into the higher temp range, then you will get the sleepies.

CBN isn't an oxidative degradation product of THC?

I have multiple Cannabis Testing Company websites saying otherwise, as well as saying CBNs cause sedation/sleepiness.
http://botanitec.com/cannabinoids.html
http://pureanalytics.net/faq

I agree that you can still use lower temps on older buds and avoid a lot of the sleepiness, but don not agree that age doesn't matter.

 

[z9]

Mids are mids... They'll never give you a strong heady high without sleepiness. I think the bud is the biggest factor contributing to William's problem. Your vaping experience will be much better with dank. Instead of spending that money a dbv, by a quarter of dank instead. IMO it'll be a better investment.

 

[CentiZen]

The MFLB always turned me into a zombie. I don't know why but even high quality herb came with a much more severe comedown. I think it is why I lean towards convection vapor now.

 

[Buildozer]

The MFLB always turned me into a zombie. I don't know why but even high quality herb came with a much more severe comedown. I think it is why I lean towards convection vapor now.

ya i always felt the MFLB high was a hybrid high.. kinda a bake-vape going on..

Around KY there are no options. Its either 5/g brick weed or 20/g dank. It sucks ass around here but its all there is.

always go for the herb that was taken care of.. over the cheap stuff. the cheap stuff will most always be degraded and give a more zombie high. get an eye piece ha.. and use it before you buy to check out the trichomes.. amber is what you want to avoid.. look for milky white.. good stuff was usually cured and stored well.. definitely treated a lot better than mid's get treated. because of that, mid's are limited to that high i'm afraid.

 

[William]

Quality over quanity! I'm going to get some 20/g shit. See how I feel after vaping that. Ill let you guys know how it goes.

 

[afterburner]

Definitely quality over quantity. I even feel like the better stuff throws a better cloud and i use WAY less.

Also i harvest when the trichomes JUST start to yellow, super heady and no couch lock at all. They do tend to tan up as time goes on, i have some jarred up from harvests over 2 years ago

 

[William]

I got some good stuff. Feeling pretty damn good off 2 trenches split between 2 ppl. I might just stick to the MFLB for now. Although a new da Buddha would be awesome

 

[OO]

CBN isn't an oxidative degradation product of THC?

I have multiple Cannabis Testing Company websites saying otherwise, as well as saying CBNs cause sedation/sleepiness.
http://botanitec.com/cannabinoids.html
http://pureanalytics.net/faq

I agree that you can still use lower temps on older buds and avoid a lot of the sleepiness, but don not agree that age doesn't matter.

Age matters to the extent you can control the temperature.

So it does matter. But if you are good at controlling the temperature you can minimize the amounts of compounds outside the range. NOT eliminate, but minimize. The Herbalaire is pretty consistent and does a very good job of staying out of that range when I want it to. It's far more difficult to achieve with other types of vapes, but not impossible.

 

[barrydanger]

hey 00 , with you mentioning controlling the temp so mainly the thc is released and not the cbn s does this leave the bud a lighter colour instead of dark brown ? sorry for the stupid question but i have only just started vaping with an ssv and have several strains of year old bud that i kept hold of because they were nice sativas and never really bothered with the technical side of medicating so i may be defeating the object by keeping it for so long...

 

[OO]

hey 00 , with you mentioning controlling the temp so mainly the thc is released and not the cbn s does this leave the bud a lighter colour instead of dark brown ? sorry for the stupid question but i have only just started vaping with an ssv and have several strains of year old bud that i kept hold of because they were nice sativas and never really bothered with the technical side of medicating so i may be defeating the object by keeping it for so long...

Not a dumb question, I'd like to make many amendment to my previous understanding, because it has changed, but that will have to be another time.

The color is independent of temperature if kept at elevated temperatures long term, but if only for short periods, a lighter color may indicate increase to lower temperatures, and therefore higher low boiling compound to high boiling compound ratio. If that makes sense.

You may well be defeating SOME of the objective if your objective does not involve decomposition products and their effects.

 

[barrydanger]

Thanks for answering 00 , i have me some reading to do i think.