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OF

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Gentle Friends,

I've an update on my Gen 2 adventures for your amusement. FWIW I'm not sure how many others are experimenting with it, but they must be doing at least as well as I am and are just unable to form complete sentences yet?

Anyway, on the smell front, please recall I was concerned that the (used) vape smelled enough that I'd notice it riding in a shirt pocket, more than most I think. I decided it was because of so much surface area (to condense stuff on) that was exposed to the outside air more because of the wide bore (and so could evaporate easier), which I still think is the case. However, it's very easy to clean with a single q-tip with 2 or 3 drops of ISO. Since the screen is small and round at at the bottom of a well in the MP (so it can reach down into the heated part of the oven) you get full, unrestricted access. I wipe it in a spiral around the walls and down from the MP opening to screen (only inverted so it doesn't drip through the screen). Just the right amount of ISO and it comes up clean and dry in a single pass. It still smells some after use, and after a couple of uses seems to 'saturate' and not get much worse. Mind, I normally don't notice such things, but especially with some strains, this guy seems to be a champ stinking up the joint for a portable vape.

Then comes the cap story. The MP is basically rectangular, with a Silicone rubber cover on the end for heat control. Still basically square, not round. However, you know those little Silicone 'jars' about an inch in diameter and maybe 5/8 tall? Holds a gram or so, top snaps on like these:
https://www.amazon.com/Bassion-Non-...=silicone+container&psc=1&smid=A3M8PZKIFR728T

Anyway, the bottom fits over the MP it turns out.....ain't that fun? It's a bit over long IMO, so I sliced the top 1/3 of it off with a razor blade (right where the step in for the top starts) and it no longer 'pops off' on it's own (and It's easier to put on). Stops the noticeable smell cold, per my nose.

That left the 'not a session vape' issue to me. I get it it's not intended to be, but that should be a potential I think. The problem was two fold, not enough good stuff in the bowl (being small) and too inconvenient to use. The unit is great for a quick hit or two, faster and IMO better than Summit (which I loved.....) in that role, but if you want to 'do a bowl' from cold it's not going to cover it for most I think. For instance, Solo has 80 to 100mg of THC in a stem against 50 here. Remembering we're only going to get a fraction of that makes this guy too marginal IMO. However, my experiments with 'spiking' the load show great promise here. I mixed 2 grams of ground (I really prefer shredding for vapes like this) herb at a nominal 20% with a gram of bubble hash at a nominal 50%. Such hash is typically available at local dispensaries at reasonable prices ($10 gram is good around here). This is 'washed' out of trim, shake, left overs and so on in ice water baths typically (sometimes called 'water hash' and 'ice hash'?) and then the heavier trichomes (which sink) are sieved to size like sand and gravel (you want stuff 'small enough to go through the big holes, but too big to fit through the next size down'). Cheap enough to make and market if you have lots of raw material to process I guess. I'm told the dispensaries buy it by the kilo sometimes, that's how we get ten dollar grams of stuff several times as strong as the strongest top shelf in the shop. Plenty of herb to soak up the oil when the trichomes burst, put too much bubble in and it can get messy to clean sometimes and plenty of THC to do the job. No reloads needed any more.

Nor is stirring the load necessary with good loading technique (pack, grind, cure, etc).

Marry that all with the myevic software, which allows you to move the time out from the factory 10 seconds out to 25 in the version I have (3.30). I hit the button and watch the numbers. When it gets to 390F (where I have it set) I let is soak a few more seconds if fresh, maybe up to 10 if it's already pretty 'wrung out', well under 20 seconds total. I then cycle the button and take a hit holding the button down afterwards. I almost always 'get back to it' in the 25 second window if I'm intent on the session plan.

I'm mighty impressed with the little guy right now. You need an eVic mod to play (iSmok doesn't seem to work) and it's not in the 'blow your socks off' class like V3, but I'm starting to see it as a solid player for the MMJ bunch and a 'fun vape' for the rest of us. IMO the unit is easier to keep squeaky clean than most given good access to glazed surfaces taste potential is, I think, at the head of the class.

Anyway, if you're using one, please speak up and tell us all how far off base I am? And if you have a Mini, Cuboid or similar you should consider getting one (less than $25 shipped?) and consider trying the myevic software (it's free, easy enough to use and has useful features). And if you don't own a suitable eVic TCR mod let's add that to the list of stuff you should consider.

Fun stuff.

OF
 

DarkSm0ke

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@OF you are referring to the dry herb vaporizer from Divine Crossing? Looks pretty interesting.
Regarding the V3 TC value, I tried the 170 but it was too low, so I tried 190 (from DT web page) still little vapor production. I didn't try 300 (@invertedisdead rec), but just went into TC mode for Ni. I was just being impatient.

Holy crap, at 340 degrees, great clouds, but nevermind that; Terpenes galore! I have the Sai and the AC atomizers, but this thing... WOW :whoa:

I don't get any of that funky reclaim taste. I didn't think it was possible but the last hit tastes almost as good as the first. @divinetribe was right about no metallic taste. I just assumed that that taste was the "norm" boy was I wrong. I am very impressed with this atomizer. This will be my new daily driver for wax. :rockon:

Thank you @divinetribe for making such an awesome wax atomizer and for constantly trying to improve your products!
 

invertedisdead

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I'm telling you, if @divinetribe comes out with a H-enail style bubbler for the v3 it will be an absolute market game changer. All these devices have super tiny nails and are heated extremely unevenly with a poorly designed and implemented heating rod that the dish sits on. Temperature control and large surface area of the v3 make it the only device on the market that could potentially rival an enail. This hybrid nature of being able to use "traditionally" like a rig, as well as portable with the regular mouthpiece will be a total game changer. Source tried to do this with their 510 nail but it's too small and heats poorly. I also think this will reduce reclaim as the concentrate will want to just vaporize instead of bubble up and splatter or run off the donut. Even if it does run it should still vaporize since the donut will be preheated. I could see switching to one of these other firm wares and setting up a longer heating duration and getting epic portable dabs that would actually rival a traditional rig in taste and effect, while being incredibly portable and versatile.
 

Steven

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So I have been very behind on updating my wismec and Joyetech mods. The 25 second power protection was actually what made me pull the trigger. I had to find new settings as my old numbers weren't working as well anymore. I went back to trying @OF rec and tweaked from there. I played with TCR 180, 170, and 160 all at 21w 420F on a 0.59 ohm large v3. As with the past, I noticed minimal vapor. Even my original settings with TCR 300 or 445 didn't work well either. I'm not sure if it was the update or if each donut needs its own tweaking because Im using a brand new donut with the new update as well. So through lots of experimenting, I have settled on tcr 170, 24w @440F. More tweaking is needed but this may be it for me (maybe even better than before) . I get huge rig sized clouds with unrivaled flavor and all off a bb sized load.

I can't see anything out there toppling this for concentrates. When I was experiencing sub parr performance, I strayed to the miracle s coil. Although convenient, it still sits in the shadows of the dtv3. Different animals but the dtv3 proposes many more advantages vs its disadvantages. The disadvantages of the miracle s coil is daunting for me. That things burns through wax and is world's away in flavor compared to the dtv3. Dtv3 is phenomenal with flavor and has a tremendous efficiency rate in amount of wax used to amount of vapor produced. The only disadvantage I see with dtv3 is the convenience factor of layg and a little leakage. The miracle s coil is very convenient in holding more wax and doesn't leak. However, the disadvantages are that its efficiency rate of amount of wax used to amount of vapor produced is very poor. A big cloud can be made but be prepared to burn through A LOT of wax to try to match the dtv3 (maybe 3 times the amount).
 

OF

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So through lots of experimenting, I have settled on tcr 170, 24w @440F. More tweaking is needed but this may be it for me (maybe even better than before) . I get huge rig sized clouds with unrivaled flavor and all off a bb sized load.

I can't see anything out there toppling this for concentrates.

That's basically what I came to, although clearly you're one of them guys that appreciates big old clouds. You're running what, 50F, hotter than I am? OK, I'm a wuss, never claimed otherwise. I easily 'make temperature' with less power of course, so I use that same m=170, but 390F and 18Watts. Makes sense, if you want higher temperatures, you need more power, a 1/3 boost seems about right.

I hear what you say about this being the ultimate, but let's keep that a secret from Matt? He hasn't disappointed thus far.

BTW, the tiny Power Nano makes a fun and compact little rig with V3, I'm playing with that just now. Fits well into a shirt pocket.......
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That's it in the middle, Pico on the Left. Surprising how such small changes make such a big difference, but with one in each hand the choice is easy. You can find them in the $25 to $30 range, at least I did.

OF
 

invertedisdead

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Does anybody know the outer diameter of the v3 housing where the mouthpiece attaches? Or perhaps the inner diameter of the hydratube adapter? I believe in this product enough to try and get a run of these bubblers that fit the v3, as I think it will truly rival an enail and will transform this product into an incredible unit in and out of the house. I just don't have the right tools here to get a proper measurement.
 

OF

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Does anybody know the outer diameter of the v3 housing where the mouthpiece attaches? Or perhaps the inner diameter of the hydratube adapter?

.687 OD, .705 ID on this one (or should that be 'pair'?). I put more stock in the ID number since the rings get tied up in the OD measurement. Match .705 for an ID and you should be Jake.

Great idea, good luck with it. Put me on the list, line forms to the rear, guys.

OF
 

OF

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@OF Would love to hear a bit of your much respected insight on how the Nano compare to the Evic Basic? I was considering adding a Pico to the roster.

No sure about the 'much respected' part but I'll have a lash.

I don't find the difference in capacity (1100 vs 1500mAh) to be significant. In use both seem to need recharging at about the same point. The Nano is easier to carry and hold due to the rounded sides, neither is easy to read in use being so tiny and having your thumb on the button at the top. The myevic software doesn't work on Nano (screen too small anyway) so if you're a geek and want all that, Basic is for you.

For myself, the Gen 2 is on a Basic since I'm constantly fiddling with it. But V2.5 and V3 are better suited to Nano. Right now there's a Nano with a V2.5 cart in my shirt pocket, my choice of all the options for that use at present.

Nano is considerably cheaper and easier to find (right now). For most I think Nano is a better choice although both will serve very well.

Just don't blame me if you buy an ugly color. BTW Nano is black on top and bottom, Basic is painted all over the same color (except the display and buttons), so say the white has a lot of black on it. The wood grain one is fun IMO. White Basics seem to be out of stock everywhere as is the wrinkle black ones?

OF
 

DarkSm0ke

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Does anybody know the outer diameter of the v3 housing where the mouthpiece attaches? Or perhaps the inner diameter of the hydratube adapter? I believe in this product enough to try and get a run of these bubblers that fit the v3, as I think it will truly rival an enail and will transform this product into an incredible unit in and out of the house. I just don't have the right tools here to get a proper measurement.

I don't know if this is similar to what you are looking for, but I am told these work with the DTV3
bubbleradapter2.jpg


They are for the Sai and cost about $25

https://humboldtvapetech.com/product/glass-bubbler-attachment/

Some guys on Reddit use them for the Sai and their V3's
 

OF

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invertedisdead

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I don't know if this is similar to what you are looking for, but I am told these work with the DTV3
bubbleradapter2.jpg


They are for the Sai and cost about $25

https://humboldtvapetech.com/product/glass-bubbler-attachment/

Some guys on Reddit use them for the Sai and their V3's

I thought I read those didn't fit the v3? I have seen them using it on the Saionara.

I'm thinking something along these lines, customized to fit the v3 housing for "classical" dabs. I wonder if that green silicone would work to mate this to the v3 without having anything changed?

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@OF do you have another link to that one you say you like, that link isn't working for me.
 

OF

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invertedisdead

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OF

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Excellent, That's the one I was posting earlier, the same factory makes all of them as far as I know; that one is on the list too hopefully.

I'm not sure we're on the same page yet. Dr Dabber seems to use the recycler in your photo above, but that one doesn't have traps to prevent spills like the version (also used by DD on this product). The one featured in the DD web link I posted above.

Again, I think the important feature is the traps. It's nice to be able to lay it down (or knock it over) and not have to worry about leaks. Such features should be part of the 'Portables Creed'.......and may be for all I know. True Believers understand.

BTW, I'm also pretty opinionated about hydrotubes that can spill that you can't stand up safely on the deck so you can tend to other things with the limited number of hands you have available. Stands are not a substitute for this in my Army. Accidents here can really harsh your mellow.......

OF
 

invertedisdead

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I'm not sure we're on the same page yet. Dr Dabber seems to use the recycler in your photo above, but that one doesn't have traps to prevent spills like the version (also used by DD on this product). The one featured in the DD web link I posted above.

Again, I think the important feature is the traps. It's nice to be able to lay it down (or knock it over) and not have to worry about leaks. Such features should be part of the 'Portables Creed'.......and may be for all I know. True Believers understand.

BTW, I'm also pretty opinionated about hydrotubes that can spill that you can't stand up safely on the deck so you can tend to other things with the limited number of hands you have available. Stands are not a substitute for this in my Army. Accidents here can really harsh your mellow.......

OF

Sorry, I was referring to the one I posted on the previous page when I said it was the one I was "posting earlier"

I see how that probably came across as referring to the recycler; I meant the standard water piece the DD comes with.

This is the one you like, correct?
https://www.drdabber.com/collections/glassworks/products/boost-replacement-mod-glass-attachment

Or the one piece design?
https://www.drdabber.com/collections/glassworks/products/boost-replacement-glass-attachment
 

Steven

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I'm not big on dabbing in the classical sense but I'm 99% sure you can adapt the dtv3 with those henail bubblers. It's easy and quick. I can probably do it in 5-10 min if I wanted. It's pretty simple, just beef up the dtv3 with some kind of silicon band. Those henail bubblers are only slightly bigger than the dtv3. I just feel that those bubblers are a step down from hydratubes. They have inferior percolating and clog too easily. Also the bad ones splash water into your mouth. Not that Recycler, or higher end ones though, but still inferior to Hydratubes imo

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Voila easy peasy. Cmon, at least try to mess with it a little. This took me 2 seconds to think up. Thought about it before, just never interested. But I can see how others will like it. Sorry for the dirty glass. Shelved the bubbler long ago n forgot to clean it first
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OF

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See, we are on the same page......yes, I have the one piece piece. Seemed like one less place to leak?

Anyway, I like the offset (so you can see the display and/or action better) feature and it seems not to 'overbalance' at least some mods, that is you can stand the rig up if the WT 'points the right way'. Makes one hand use much easier.

Looking forward to what you come up with.

OF
 

invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
I'm not big on dabbing in the classical sense but I'm 99% sure you can adapt the dtv3 with those henail bubblers. It's easy and quick. I can probably do it in 5-10 min if I wanted. It's pretty simple, just beef up the dtv3 with some kind of silicon band. Those henail bubblers are only slightly bigger than the dtv3. I just feel that those bubblers are a step down from hydratubes. They have inferior percolating and clog too easily. Also the bad ones splash water into your mouth. Not that Recycler, or higher end ones though, but still inferior to Hydratubes imo

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Voila easy peasy. Cmon, at least try to mess with it a little. This took me 2 seconds to think up. Thought about it before, just never interested. But I can see how others will like it. Sorry for the dirty glass. Shelved the bubbler long ago n forgot to clean it first
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My interest stems from personally believing the effect and taste of concentrate are improved when vaporizing off a preheated surface. Think of a drag race from a stand still versus a rolling start. I also believe it will reduce reclaim, though that sees to be tested.

That one piece unit seems to be the worst one with the most complaints. The 2 piece unit and the recycler have many positive reviews and seem to be and improved version, many people say the unit should have came stock with those versions. Thanks for posting this though, it's very helpful. I think if possible it would also be nice to reduce the height of the connecting point since our donut is recessed and the 510 nails are placed higher, to make it easier to land a dab. I believe at the least this unit should work better than any of the others on the market; considering temp control, surface area, rebuildable design, and clean vapor path.
 
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papapotbelly

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My interest stems from personally believing the effect and taste of concentrate are improved when vaporizing off a preheated surface. Think of a drag race from a stand still versus a rolling start. I also believe it will reduce reclaim, though that sees to be tested.

That one piece unit seems to be the worst one with the most complaints. The 2 piece unit and the recycler have many positive reviews and seem to be and improved version, many people say the unit should have came stock with those versions. Thanks for posting this though, it's very helpful. I think if possible it would also be nice to reduce the height of the connecting point since our donut is recessed and the 510 nails are placed higher, to make it easier to land a dab. I believe at the least this unit should work better than any of the others on the market; considering temp control, surface area, rebuildable design, and clean vapor path.

@invertedisdead, the recycler is the only "serious" piece for the 510 type nails. I have been on a quest and trying them all like Pokemon lol. All of the other ones get water in your mouth and don't provide any real diffusion, even with not enough water in the tube. The recycler is great. I can even keep mine full of water as long as I lay it flat in my pelican case. I would say go with the recycler shape if you are looking to mod something for dabbing into. The "toy drum" (or as Dabado calls it the "orbit") glass is the only other half decent piece they have developed so far.

@Steven, great job on the adapting, that is basically what Mr. Bonsai used to do but on the mouthpiece as I mentioned. I only have really thick silicone tubing lying around like for beer brewing and would have to buy the right size by the foot, which is not something I want to do just to have it "rigged up" - I too really love the hydratube for everyday use so it seems like a lot of trouble for nothing :-)

However, would be super interested in an all glass, properly fit, recycler with an open top for dabbing into the V3. Especially when/if Matt gets the crucible cup dialed in.

I always thought to myself "damn, I wish Matt made Source Vapes with his standards of production instead of them making it". So put me +1 on your list if you find a blower who can do this.
 

invertedisdead

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@papapotbelly I appreciate the feedback you and everyone else has added. I agree completely that with the crucible cup it will be incredible at this vaporizer transforms to. Have you used the 2 piece "standard" design? Does that experience the same problems you mention?

Many thanks, all! :D

BTW, If anybody has any more comments, concerns, or insights, please let me know, as I've already been talking with a manufacturer and almost ready to get samples sent :cheers:
 
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invertedisdead

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Manufacturer
Okay I just milked up a fill bag from the 'cano and got a v3 torn apart here and my mind is wandering :ko:

I'm wondering if this might actually work a lot better, with the entire ceramic housing removed, and have the glass fit over the atomizer base where it attaches to the mod. This makes the nail much easier to get to, you even get to see the sidewalls as a "guide" when dabbing.

The downside is this means removing 3 screws to access, so it's not quite as portable as throwing the mouthpiece on and running out the house.

The plus side is an Evic Basic and a v3 is affordable enough to keep an extra unit around in this configuration.

I'm really curious to hear what you guys think about this. I'm also curious if the bubblers would fit in this configuration as is without modifying anything? Anybody with access to one that can confirm? I have a v3 with me but I'm out of the county right now.
 
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Steven

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My interest stems from personally believing the effect and taste of concentrate are improved when vaporizing off a preheated surface. Think of a drag race from a stand still versus a rolling start. I also believe it will reduce reclaim, though that sees to be tested.

That one piece unit seems to be the worst one with the most complaints. The 2 piece unit and the recycler have many positive reviews and seem to be and improved version, many people say the unit should have came stock with those versions. Thanks for posting this though, it's very helpful. I think if possible it would also be nice to reduce the height of the connecting point since our donut is recessed and the 510 nails are placed higher, to make it easier to land a dab. I believe at the least this unit should work better than any of the others on the market; considering temp control, surface area, rebuildable design, and clean vapor path.
I'm already at work but I think it's possible to adapt the dtv3 to 510 bubbler without the ceramic housing. This way, it will sit higher in the bubbler. The 510 bubbler will not go pass the point I showed in pic

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