Truth Seeker
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What's the overall difference of effects ingesting AVB compared to a proper decarb such as in the oven or in an Ardent Nova lift etc?
Are there big differences?
Are there big differences?
Differences between AVB and proper Decarb
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ginolicious
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I don’t see any personally.
I vape my weed at 185C and I usually decarb it in the oven slightly higher. It’s almost the exact same process in my opinion other than when in the oven you ain’t inhaling any of the effects. But this is my opinion. Without scientific back up. Someone else is gonna school me. But it’s my stoner logic on this one.
I vape my weed at 185C and I usually decarb it in the oven slightly higher. It’s almost the exact same process in my opinion other than when in the oven you ain’t inhaling any of the effects. But this is my opinion. Without scientific back up. Someone else is gonna school me. But it’s my stoner logic on this one.
torkwench13
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I read somewhere the ABV is not fully decarbed, but I don't recall if there was any science behind that claim. Might be true but here's what I do and it works for me. I tend to vape my herb twice at 200C. It gets nice and toasty brown (not dark brown or black!) and I like to mix one gram of it in nut butter, preferably an oily natural butter, with a little sunflower lecithin, and maybe some cocoa and sugar. I'll eat that maybe on crackers or straight off the spoon and in 30 to 40 mins I'm comfortably good to go for the next few hours! I got the idea from fire cracker recipes as well as other people's inspirations!
ginolicious
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I'm no expert but I think the AVB would be much much less potent. As you have evaporated most of the THC and sucked it up. But this too is stoner logicI don't really cook with decarbed cannabis much myself
I add decarb cannabis for my topical creams along with fresh cannabis.
MinnBobber
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You are asking about ingesting ABV compared to full virgin bud that was only decarbed, correct?
The virgin bud just had almost all the acidic forms (THCA, CBDA, etc) converted to our THC,CBD, etc.
So it is primed and high test buds.
The ABV will be much much weaker, although there is some variability as :
I finish all my flower at 445 F cuz it is scarce and expensive, and cuz it never tastes bad thru
my miniVAP or Herbie at that high temp. Even after all those hits, it works in edibles.
BUT, some have reported here that they vape at 350/360 F so their ABV has way more goodies left
for edibles. So, there is a big difference in ABV potency.
Genki88
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You shouldn't be decarbing at that temp or any higher..............
ginolicious
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anytbing I read suggests decarbing at 230C for 20-30 minutes. If I vape at 185c that’s lower than what I normally decarb in the oven. Are ya suggesting I’m decarbing too high?
Genki88
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Read again..........carefully......
Skyscraper
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Yeah.. In my experience, the proper temp for decarbing flower for edibles is around 230 Fahrenheit, not Celsius.
I don't mess with edibles too much unless making the odd batch of butter from trim/shake..
The first couple years I vaped I made various edible recipes with ABV, from firecrackers to brownies to olive oil infusions..
IME dosing ABV edibles is very inconsistent, tastes bad and can be rough on your stomach. I honestly also thought it increased my tolerance without getting me noticeably very high. Your mileage may vary as this is all my opinion.
ginolicious
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Man that took me days to understand haha. I use the decarbed cannabis for topical creams rather than ingestion.
Wow I’m an idiot. I decarb in oven at 230F cause my oven is in F. But my vape. I run at 185-200C. 
Wow I’m an idiot. I decarb in oven at 230F cause my oven is in F. But my vape. I run at 185-200C.
CurryLeafTreehugger
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Water wash your ABV. All that nasty bad tasting crap washes out, and I was left with about 1/3rd the volume I started with - which is advantageous in that it also serves to concentrate the remaining THC so its about as strong as regular weed. But it will probably be more sleepy than high, my reclaim typically just puts me to sleep with no intervening high. Or maybe I do it wrong, who knows. My last batch of reclaim was resin and it definitely put me right to sleep, its been awhile since I did a batch of ABV and I don't really remember its effects. Must not have been all that bad since I tried it again with the resin LOL!
tokenknifeguy
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.AVB definitely would be a less potent edible than if you just decarbed the weed instead of vaping it. Thats why you take way more AVB per dose than vs regular decarbed weed. Also I've found I've gotten really great results decarbing my weed at 255F. I got a digital thermometer that I can put in the dish that I decarb my weed in, to monitor the temp at all times.I'm no expert but I think the AVB would be much much less potent. As you have evaporated most of the THC and sucked it up. But this too is stoner logic
So I'll put a pan in the oven and cover with aluminum foil and then stick the thermometer through the foil and into the pan. I'll put this in the oven and wait until it gets up to temp inside the pan. I then put my weed in and wait for the temp to get back to around 255F and start my timer for 30 mins. I also have my weed broken down to nugs about the size of a dime or tad bit smaller, but definitely not ground up. I"ve done various methods but this is the best that I've done so far. Getting that thermometer was critical.