Difference between "single hitter" and "session" vaporizers?

[Ricardo]

It might be a stupid question, but I'm not clear about the difference. I have the DaVinci Ascent which is clearly a session Vape - I put some ground up weed in the ceramic chamber, set the temperature and draw leisurely for up to 10 minutes. The effect is gradual and smooth and I can reuse the APV later at a higher temperature and get high all over again.

But how do single hitters work? Is it only for hash or resin or shatter? Can you use weed? Can you set temperature and reuse ABV, or is there no ABV? Would you use the same amounts? I kinda imagine it like hot knives, back in the day when we put a piece of hash on red hot knives and sucked up the smoke (vapor?) through a plastic soda bottle. Is that more or less how it works? And, is it really a single hit? Do you get the same effect as a 10 minute session with the Ascent? A lot of questions - I'm confused

 

[1DMF]

I don't think there is a vape that is just a single hit.

Even when we did hot knives back in the day, a single hot knife would do more than one person or more than one hit.

Unless you used seriously tiny bits of hash.

The nearest for dry herb is possibly the grasshopper, but again, you can get more than one hit out of it as with most vapes.

Perhaps on a dab rig you could drop a small amount and inhale the entire vapour in one go, but that also depends on how big/good your lungs are.

I would bet 99% of vapes allow the user to take more than one draw from the device before needing to refill it. It is possible to micro dose, but that usually requires simply not filling the device fully.

I have an Ascent, and with the glass spacers and enough glass flowers, I guess I could put so little in that it wouldn't give much vapour or last very long, but you wouldn't be able to extract all the goodies from one single suck.

>> or is there no ABV?

If it is dry herb and not combusting there will always be ABV!

I believe only with concentrates is it possible to not have anything left over, but you would need a seriously pure concentrate for that.

Edit : This is all assuming you are considering 'single hit' the same as only taking a single puff on a regular joint! Otherwise define 'Single Hit'

 

[Joel W.]

I'd think of the underdog with its small stems as a one hitter.

If I overload the stem, I can get a second hit out of it but I usually finish it off in one hit. There is always abv left.

Edit:. I define a single hitter as , take a hit, dump and reload.

 

[Tommy10]

Vapcap with domed screen can be a one hitter easily.

 

[Pyr0]

My Vapexhale EVO is pretty much a single hitter with herbs or concentrates
Massive rips like my old bong days.


Sometimes I'll stir and try for a second hit, but unless I've overloaded the basket, it's just wispy vpours, very dry and tasting toasted.

 

[h3rbalist]

My Daisy can be a single hitter.

Boom!

Also arn't the Sublimator and the Evo pretty much one hitters?

Edit... as it seem popular. Lol


I always thought a single hit was exactly that but I see the reference to a vape unit that instantly removes heat too. As you take a hit when you like and are not at the mercy of a preheated oven.

 

[Ricardo]

Otherwise define 'Single Hit'

This is what I was hoping to clarify. I've seen some vaped described as "single hitters" but find it hard to imagine getting high off a single toke, unless it's super concentrated thc.

 

[1DMF]

I'm with you @Ricardo never in my smoking days nor now that I vape have I ever finished a bowl / joint / pipe / vape etc with one single toke.

 

[friedrich]

This is what I was hoping to clarify. I've seen some vaped described as "single hitters" but find it hard to imagine getting high off a single toke, unless it's super concentrated thc.

People compare vapes like the Grasshopper to one-hitter pipes because with fast on-demand convection heating, you can sneak off and take one or three big, full-spectrum hits, very quickly and efficiently.

Conduction vapes sort of lock you into a session by gradually ramping the herb up to constant vaping temperatures, releasing vapor more slowly and fractionally; if you do use them for one/few hits here and there, they tend to be more wasteful of both energy and herb.

 

[Melting Pot]

Imo a session vape is a vape that has an oven that hs to be heated.ie pax, mighty, storm ect. Once shut off herb continue to cook in hot oven.
A single hitter would be one you can take a hit and remove heat to save herb for latter. Any log vape , ESV , millana ,SSV ect.
Hope this helps

Edit a single hitter can be a session vape but a session vape can't de a single hitter.
Unless modded.lol

 

[Ricardo]

A single hitter would be one you can take a hit and remove heat to save herb for latter.

Yes, but you won't get much from a single toke of bud, right? People must use high thc concentrates of some sort, no?

 

[Vapor_Eyes]

This is what I was hoping to clarify. I've seen some vaped described as "single hitters" but find it hard to imagine getting high off a single toke, unless it's super concentrated thc.

Most "single hitters" are convection vapes, conduction is much more suited to sessions. I suppose a MFLB might be considered a single hitter conduction vaporizer.

Generally speaking convection vapes extract much quicker than conduction vapes, with fewer total hits. I can almost kill a full but fluffy chamber (maybe .07 grams) in my GH in one hit. This is at max temp through water. There is a small second hit but the majority of it is gone in the first hit. At lower temps I could get 10 hits off of that in the same vaporizer.

Also, one hit from a powerful convection vaporizer can definitely get you high depending on tolerance. I have a fairly high tolerance and I can definitely feel the effects of just one hit. Usually I might take 3-4 hits to get medicated and then take one hit at a time for maintenance. When using a conduction vape I need maybe 10-15 hits to get medicated.

 

[h3rbalist]

Yes, but you won't get much from a single toke of bud, right? People must use high thc concentrates of some sort, no?

Not always.

 

[WoodyWeedPecker]

We already have 4 different definitions.

1) Take one hit, dump and reload
2) Take one or 2 hits, dump and reload
3) Take one huge rip, dump and reload
3) Sneak off one or three big hits. Quick on demand single hits capability (grasshopper, firefly).

 

[1DMF]

Yes, but you won't get much from a single toke of bud, right? People must use high thc concentrates of some sort, no?

That's why I got into Rosin, easiest way for me of getting that...

"smack you in the face, no additional heat source, no waiting for heat up or cool down time, no stinkyness, very stealthy, put straight back in your pocket"

...single hitter!

 

[Ricardo]

That's why I got into Rosin, easiest way for me of getting that...

This is what makes most sense to me, although I'm not very clear as to what it is and I doubt it's available where I live...

"smack you in the face, no additional heat source, no waiting for heat up or cool down time, no stinkyness, very stealthy, put straight back in your pocket"

...single hitter!

...and this is possibly why I prefer the gentle, gradual stone of my Ascent - at the end of a long day's work, put all responsibilities to one side, fire up the Ascent and mellow out

But I'm beginning to see the difference and can appreciate the advantages of the "short, sharp shock". Off to investigate "rosin" now

EDIT: still unclear whether rosin, shatter or wax is more potent(concentrated/stronger) than plain old weed???

 

[hoptimum]

It might be a stupid question, but I'm not clear about the difference. I have the DaVinci Ascent which is clearly a session Vape - I put some ground up weed in the ceramic chamber, set the temperature and draw leisurely for up to 10 minutes. The effect is gradual and smooth and I can reuse the APV later at a higher temperature and get high all over again.

But how do single hitters work? Is it only for hash or resin or shatter? Can you use weed? Can you set temperature and reuse ABV, or is there no ABV? Would you use the same amounts? I kinda imagine it like hot knives, back in the day when we put a piece of hash on red hot knives and sucked up the smoke (vapor?) through a plastic soda bottle. Is that more or less how it works? And, is it really a single hit? Do you get the same effect as a 10 minute session with the Ascent? A lot of questions - I'm confused

some herb vaporizers, such as the Lotus and logs have small bowls that you can consume in a single rip if you are so inclined.

 

[Squiby]

some herb vaporizers, such as the Lotus and logs have small bowls that you can consume in a single rip if you are so inclined.

And the Vapman and the Vapcap!!!

 

[Oogendoogan]

My Vapexhale EVO is pretty much a single hitter with herbs or concentrates
Massive rips like my old bong days.


Sometimes I'll stir and try for a second hit, but unless I've overloaded the basket, it's just wispy vpours, very dry and tasting toasted.

Wow how high do you vape man? When I vape at 1 on the dial I get 4-6 milky long hits through a large bubbler, not huge but it has a 11 inch can.

One hit is possible through the Evo with a small pack or high temp. I have heard people killing a half elb in one hit at 3pm. Never a full one lol. You must have some crazy lungs man.

 

[waxdab23]

EDIT: still unclear whether rosin, shatter or wax is more potent(concentrated/stronger) than plain old weed???

Yup. Most flower strains I buy contain 20%-30% THC, while concentrates (rosin, wax, shatter) contain 70%-90%.

If you don't have access to concentrates in your area, check out the Concentrates forum on FC and you'll find DIY information. Rosin is the easiest.

 

[HomeFree]

For me I define a one hitter type of vaporizer to be one you can load up a small amount and have the vapor be just as dense and flavorful (per pull) as if you had loaded up more in a session vape, but only one or two pulls. Something you can pop .02-.03 grams in and get a satisfying, tasty toke, not 8 tiny ones to finish the baby load. Just vapes a small load quickly and efficiently.

A one hitter in the combustion area would be like a bat/dugout type deal. Or I have just loaded up a real piece of a whole bud into a bong stem.

There is also what we call "one hit quit shit" here in the states, which just means really potent cannabis. I would say it is an exaggeration of course, just a marketing tool for the most part. But that is separate from the vape itself.

Personally I like using a small amount. It is enjoyable and almost completely different than using a normal amount. But again, one hitter kind of vapes I would venture to say are not used to get someone super high from one hit. It offers better dosage control and fresher taste per gram for the most part (IMO).

Oh yeah, and it is not a stupid question, especially if you are from outside the US, where we might use different terms. You might be getting "one hit quit shit" mixed up with a one hit vape.

 

[Poostuff]

I own a few desktops & I didn't know what people meant by single hitter till I bought a Sub. Thought I knew but no...

 

[Pyr0]

Wow how high do you vape man? When I vape at 1 on the dial I get 4-6 milky long hits through a large bubbler, not huge but it has a 11 inch can.

One hit is possible through the Evo with a small pack or high temp. I have heard people killing a half elb in one hit at 3pm. Never a full one lol. You must have some crazy lungs man.

I'll take that as a compliment lol
I run my EVO at max to start then turn it down to 1:30 after it heatsoaks (Any higher and I risk combustion) and run it for hours and hours at a time.
Yeah I fill my ELBs about half way so there's room for the herb to move around.
At a guess I'd say I'm pulling for 30 seconds or so and the vapour is very thin at the end of the draw.

If I put more in then I try stirring but the second pull is usually pretty wispy, dry on my throat and tastes toasted.

I own a few desktops & I didn't know what people meant by single hitter till I bought a Sub. Thought I knew but no...

That's one vape I'd love to try

 

[Poostuff]

It's harder to do one hitters with the Evo @Pyr0 but that's never stopped me from trying

 

[Pyr0]

hahaha, doesn't stop me either.
I even top up bowls with kief sometimes for that extra kick to the chest.
The sub was my other choice when purchasing the Evo, but it was never in stock..
Just checked on @VapeFiend.com now, it still isn't