Darwin's Head Stash

[tdavie]

@aero18 thanks for letting me know that the LD50's are on a par with cannabinoids; I appreciate it. I just found out that this chemical is on Health Canada's watch list, so I guess Canucks should act fast if they want to try this.

Tom

 

[aero18]

Hmm... my roommate and I both have independently noticed that we have a harder time focusing on close objects after vaping the DHS. Something in the blend is affecting our eyes' ability to focus... I think I have noticed the same thing from cannabis though, I am unsure however. It's been a while since I have vaped actual cannabis. If anyone can chime in on this it would be helpful!

Also, I've noticed that the high feels shorter. The high is probably 2 hours long and there is a little haze for another hour or two. Cannabis leaves me elevated for a solid 4-5 hours with less of a haze.

People on other forums say that they could not be able to distinguish the two on the basis of the high, but I know I can. It feels different... similar but definitely different. Probably due to all of the other missing cannabinoids. There's a different body sensation which does not feel as great as cannabis'. The euphoria isn't as... euphoric, either. I do smile a lot but I don't think it raises my mood as much as cannabis. I don't get that "THIS IS WHY I LOVE THIS!" feeling I usually get after get after vaping cannabis.

I don't know whether I like the fact that there is wild lettuce in the mix since it does have some opiates in it either...

 

[HighSti]

So im considering using this as my alternative for a few months because Im gonna have to make it through a few drug tests. Obviously we do not know much about these synthetic canabanoids but I do not plan to use it as regularly as I used to use cannabis. Im thinking only about a few times a week. I have a couple questions though.

Does the DHS come finely ground enough to use directly in a launchbox?
For those who have a launchbox, how many hits are usually required to get vaked?
Assuming im only using about .1 grams per LB trench, would I be getting roughly about 10 uses per gram or is it quite different from cannabis?

 

[aero18]

Yeah, since the actives are found on the herbs, there is no need to grind them. They are ground as it is too.

A full trench is what I normally use to get me to where I want to be.

 

[Aizen-sama]

The best way to use DHS is to eat it. Toss back around .3g and you're set. The come-up is pretty long (~1.5 hours on an empty stomach), but the intensity and duration of the high are worth the wait.

 

[aero18]

The best way to use DHS is to eat it. Toss back around .3g and you're set. The come-up is pretty long (~1.5 hours on an empty stomach), but the intensity and duration of the high are worth the wait.

No heat required? No lipid or alcoholic solutions?

 

[Son Of A Pitch]

Hmm... my roommate and I both have independently noticed that we have a harder time focusing on close objects after vaping the DHS. Something in the blend is affecting our eyes' ability to focus... I think I have noticed the same thing from cannabis though, I am unsure however. It's been a while since I have vaped actual cannabis. If anyone can chime in on this it would be helpful!

Yes this happens to me alot with cannabis

 

[HighSti]

my bag of DHS should be here around friday. Im pretty excited because I cant vape mj for a while so this should be fun. As i have read from different forums and such, the DHS does produce a slightly more intense visual impairment. Most people tend to like it. I really would rather go back to cannabis but unfortunately my situation does not allow. I will be sure to post my opinion/review when i get to use it this weekend.

 

[Aizen-sama]

The best way to use DHS is to eat it. Toss back around .3g and you're set. The come-up is pretty long (~1.5 hours on an empty stomach), but the intensity and duration of the high are worth the wait.

No heat required? No lipid or alcoholic solutions?

Nope, you can just eat the dose. I chew it a bit and swallow it with some water. Works very nicely.

 

[HighSti]

The best way to use DHS is to eat it. Toss back around .3g and you're set. The come-up is pretty long (~1.5 hours on an empty stomach), but the intensity and duration of the high are worth the wait.

No heat required? No lipid or alcoholic solutions?

Nope, you can just eat the dose. I chew it a bit and swallow it with some water. Works very nicely.

wow that is actually pretty interesting. How long would you say the high lasts compared to vaping/smoking it? I bought 3 grams so I may just try this out and see how I like it.

 

[HighSti]

Just got my DHS. Smells good. Almost looks like ground up weed. Cant wait to give it a shot tomorrow. Ill post back when I get out of class and I get a chance to relax.

 

[Aizen-sama]

In my experience, the high lasts about 3-4 hours when eaten, as compared to around 1-2 when vaped.

 

[aero18]

Do you eat the same quantity that you would normally vape?

 

[Aizen-sama]

Do you eat the same quantity that you would normally vape?

Yes.

 

[HighSti]

Let me begin by saying WOW. This stuff got me very high. Just a few things that stood out:

-slightly more distorted visuals
-lack of paranoia (as opposed to cannabis)
-significantly more potent (same amount of material achived higher levels of imperment)
-seems not to last as long.. Although more experimenting is nessasary to confirm

those seem to be the most obvious differences but they were not apperant the first time I tried it due to the similarity to actual cannabis. I must say, this is by far one of the best substitutes for bud if you cannot use cannabis due to drug tests.. Etc. One weird thing I noticed though.. When using with my launch box, I could not seem to achive the same results as with combustion. Not that it was a difference but rather it felt as if I was not effected by it at all when using the vaporizer. I only used it through the vaporizer about 3 times so before I say for certain, I will definatly have to do some more testing.

Overall this stuff is great. It tastes a bit funny and smells like flowers but the effect is rediculously close to that of actual cannabis and if it actually works well in the vaporizer, DHS would be amazing. More testing this week as I am picking up another 3 grams today so I'll let you guys know what else I notice or if any of my opinions change.

 

[HighSti]

So earlier today I was at my cousins house enjoying a few tokes of the DHS out of a Myrtle Zap attached to a 100ml EHLE and let me tell you, I got pretty damn high. In fact, I am taking hits of this while Im typing out of my LB with a water bottle bong attachment. Ill post back on both sessions in a bit.

Ok. So i just finished toking and I can tell you without a doubt that I am fuckin stoned.. I took about 15 magic-flight bong hits to get me here. The paranoia seems to be a lot more tolerable as compared to cannabis. I think I just wana play a game and relax a bit. That usually means im a lot more blitzed then normal. Ill report back tomorrow when I can think about it sober.

 

[HighSti]

Ok so after a good amount of time spent vaked off this shit, I've come to some good conclusions. First off, I would like to say that this stuff DOES work out of a vaporizer but it seems that higher tempratures are adequate for extracting the jwh-018 very well. Although the stuff works well in terms of similarity to cannabis it turns out that I was correct about the length of the high.. It seems as if the high only
lasts about 1.5 hours with a fast "landing" but it comes off really nice a smooth.

All in all this stuff is great if you're being tested like myself but I honestly can't wait until I pull out that natural bud

 

[HighSti]

Darwins head stash has just changed the contents of their blend. The new blend offer the same effects but now has a whole new set of ingredients that simply sound more appealing and seem to be better overall.

The new ingredients are: Marshmallow Leaf, Red Clover, Rose Petals, Natural Honey, Fresh Apple Juice, Proprietary Extracts.

I would assume that this will eliminate the funky taste of the old blend and be more pleasant while delivering the same effect. Ill be picking up 5 grams sometime in the near future and post a small review of the new blend.

 

[collegerower]

Thanks, I got that e-mail about the new blend.

This stuff for sure works, but I really didnt like the taste of the old blend. It was enough that I never wanted to buy it after i finished my sample. Now that there is a new blend I think I will hold out until another free sample goes up (if it ever does). I am just too scared to buy it and not like it.

 

[HighSti]

Thanks, I got that e-mail about the new blend.

This stuff for sure works, but I really didnt like the taste of the old blend. It was enough that I never wanted to buy it after i finished my sample. Now that there is a new blend I think I will hold out until another free sample goes up (if it ever does). I am just too scared to buy it and not like it.

Well if you bought a gram its only 10 dollars so I guess you cant go too wrong just trying it out once. I'm going to end up buying 5 or 7 grams.. (not sure yet) but Ill consider myself the guinea pig.

I can only guess that the new stuff will be an improvement from the old stuff but I guess Ill find out for sure sometime soon.

 

[stickstones]

Did we ever get past whether this stuff is dangerous? That's the question that keeps coming up for me, as I have been looking for a mj alternative for a while but never found anything any good. This might be the one.

 

[HighSti]

Dangerous? I wouldn't say so. The active chemical compound happens to be JWH-018 which also happens to be a very non-toxic compound with a enormously high LD-50. As for the old blend, the ingredients were also in no way toxic when ingested in the small amounts found in the blends. I'm still working on researching all the new ingredients and verifying that none are in question of safety. From the research I've done so far, nothing has lead me to assume these blends are harmful or un-safe.

Turns out that Darwin's Head Stash is one of the highest quality 018 blends available. That being said, the list of ingredients also appears to be quite safer then the old stuff in which half the ingredients I had never heard of before. I am still currently and extensively researching the blend to ensure safety.

As for an alternative to weed, I guess I could safely say that this is the closest thing to mj without being mj that Ive ever tried or heard about.. Ive already used roughly 5 grams and not noticed anything negative health wise. I personally think that the stuff is safe enough to use on a regular basis based on my research.. I mean, I think it's many times safer the a cheeseburger is. If you don't feel comfortable using it, don't.

More research, etc to come on the new blend. I would totally recommend the old stuff but only because I haven't tried the new stuff. I can only assume it would be better and if you can't have THC show up in your system, this is defiantly something to take a look at.

 

[Lo]

You can read more about 018, 073, etc. here:

http://www.sacraresearch.com/Cannabinoid-Research_ep_44.html

Folks in ecig land have been experimenting w/ 018 in ecigs. I read up and tried some. It does work, I would caution finding your tolerance and I would not use regularly. Complete stealth!!

I got some 073 too but haven't tried that. 18 for inhalation, 73 for ingestion

Darwin's stuff is legal herbs coated w/ 018 from what I can gather.

 

[HighSti]

Just ordered 3 grams to go with my new Alder PD Pandora. Ill let you guys know how the new blend is and how it hits out of the Pandora!

 

[GreenLeaf]

You know what's weird about this? We have got into long debates over the various materials that are used in our vapes, from brass to stainless steel, to ceramics, to plastics, etc etc etc, and we question how safe it is when our vapor comes in contact with these various things, but do we question what it is, in fact, that we are actually vaping? I'm not suggesting that there is anything dangerous in Darwin's Head Stash, but in looking at their site, there is no explanation of exactly what is in this stuff, so do we know for a fact that it is a safe product to consume?

That's why I have personally never used ANY of the JWH compounds.

On the forums on bluelight in their cannabis forum there have been discussions about how these research chemicals are not exactly the best things to be vaping or putting into your body.