Dark oil - ABV extract

[GNubz]

Awwwwesome. Now I'm really excited. It's coming with a set and I didn't think I'd have any use for it. I love this website.

 

[dorkus_molorkus]

I also put my iso & abv in the freezer overnight before the qwiso wash. dont know if this makes any difference, but others seem to think so. So, wtf, in the freezer it goes.

this site is the total shit. In the last 2 mths I have learnt to use absolutely everything from the plant, no waste.

& I swear to jeebus the greatest thing ever is being able to make hashy stuff & oil etc from your vaped leftovers. Vaping is the gift that keeps on giving!

In 2mths, I have gone from combusting in a dirty ol gravity bong that rarely got the h2o changed.
To being the proud owner of a HA with a blaze perc bong,
and have another blaze perc, a DBV, a nice nautilis layback inline bong, along with a couple of ashcatchers & sherlock mouthpieces, plus a VAPOR SWING in the mail on its way to me in OZ as we speak!

my wife will not understand.

 

[Stu]

my wife will not understand.

They never do!

 

[lepstadder]

there looks like a nice chocolate brown, sweet hash smelling block of.............??
hash analogue??

They call it "jelly"

dry sift or bubble mixed into a solvent extract

 

[Qbit]

my wife will not understand.

Hehe, just tell her you're taking care of your lungs (which of course you are). If you've only been vaping, you'd obviously be feeling the difference.

 

[djonkoman]

the difference is indeed noticable, last while I smoked more(fro friends' joints who all combust with tobacco in a joint), and the difference is clear

 

[dorkus_molorkus]

my wife will not understand.

Hehe, just tell her you're taking care of your lungs (which of course you are). If you've only been vaping, you'd obviously be feeling the difference.

LOL- thats the excuse I used for originally buying the HA and then when I was coughing like a mofo I used it again to justify purchasing the blaze perc.

Im a bit scared on rolling that one out again when $600 odd more dollars of paraphanalia arrives.
oh, well................. I might put it down to research, start a website for aussies specialising in selling vapebong kits.
That should shut her up.

maybe todays the day my parcels start arriving!!
fingers crossed

 

[dorkus_molorkus]

there looks like a nice chocolate brown, sweet hash smelling block of.............??
hash analogue??

They call it "jelly"

dry sift or bubble mixed into a solvent extract

wow- they may call it jelly.
I call it fucking outstanding!

 

[akwardsauce]

there looks like a nice chocolate brown, sweet hash smelling block of.............??
hash analogue??

They call it "jelly"

dry sift or bubble mixed into a solvent extract

wow- they may call it jelly.
I call it fucking outstanding!

how do u actually consume the "jelly"? u gotta use one of those griddle-thingies that u heat up & put it on? because i would assume using one of those is technically combustion...is there any way to revape it?

 

[dorkus_molorkus]

I have been combusting said 'jelly'' at the mo'

But i have a vapor swing on its way & that consists of heating up a thingy (ti plate) & putting concentrates on the heated pad.

Now, I was under the impression that the pad gets so hot that the substance placed on the hot pad vaporised the substance, as opposed to.................. combustion?? IDK

To tell the truth, I only wanted a vapor swing because they look so cool. If it turns out that Im still combusting when using it, fine. If it turns out that its technically vaporising, totally awesome.

But at the end of the day, the vapor swing is still damn cool & no-one i know has one.

hopefully someone will pop by & know the difference to be able to tell us.
or at least give some tips on correctly vaping concentrates

cheers

 

[gobbly]

I really like my skillet (ti pad, vapor swing, bell, lots of names for them). I like it a little more than my globe, but just because it's a little easier to use.

There is a learning curve. You heat the ti red hot, and it'll combust. You'll have to get a feeling for how long to let it cool for. With mine I get it red hot, then count to 10-12 with it off the heat, then dab, and I just get melted oil and vapor, no combustion at all (same with keif at this temp). Every pad will be different though, but it will only take you a night of dabs to get it down

If you have ever done hot knifes, your experience with them will give you a leg up on using skillets or nails. You can also prevent combustion by depriving oxygen, so if you use hash instead of oil you can use a knife to press it and prevent combustion at higher temps (just like you can with hot knifes ).

Hope the info is useful!

Also there are tons of video's on youtube with people taking dabs off nails and pads, if you wanted to see techniques, they all are basically the same, the big difference is how long you let the ti cool before you dab

 

[gobbly]

something else, what you are getting from ABV is going to have a higher vape point that the THC/CBD I'm going for in my oil. It's possible you will need a hotter pad to vape what you get from ABV (just my speculation). also my experience with my own oil is that after I dab there is a very dark oil on my dabber that takes a much higher temp to vape (I assume this is chlorophyll, but I really don't know for sure). It's incredibly acrid tasting, and as far as I can tell isn't psychoactive. I would imagine you would have a much higher concentration of this when using ABV, and I must warn you, it's one of the more terrible things I've tasted

 

[dorkus_molorkus]

thanks for the info gobbly!

especially the tip on letting the redhot ti pad cool a bit, i thought the hotter it was helped with the vaporisation in this case (idk why I thougth that, too much sci-fi maybe??)

cant wait for mine to arrive! all my other goodies arrived & its been glass-a-rama at my house for the last 24hrs.


Im saving a nice 2gr block of ' jelly' hash for when it arrives. Got my butane burner, got my bitchin new glass,
wheres my Ti curve?
Im good to go!

 

[gobbly]

thanks for the info gobbly!

especially the tip on letting the redhot ti pad cool a bit, i thought the hotter it was helped with the vaporisation in this case (idk why I thougth that, too much sci-fi maybe??)

cant wait for mine to arrive! all my other goodies arrived & its been glass-a-rama at my house for the last 24hrs.


Im saving a nice 2gr block of ' jelly' hash for when it arrives. Got my butane burner, got my bitchin new glass,
wheres my Ti curve?
Im good to go!

yeah, on the heat, even oil will burn at high temps. You are looking for boiling points, and most of what you want will boil under 420f (you don't get much at all past 450f that you want, the rest are impurities like chlorophyll or simple sugars). You will always have to be a little on the hot side because it's constantly cooling once it's off heat. What you don't want, however, is to have it be too cool. You'll have to get it hot again to hit it and you'll waste any oil left on the pad after a hit (though you'll get a good demonstration of how oil will burn ).

I also use a propane torch because it's super fast to heat up compared to butane. Some people have been concerned with residue left on the pad from it (though no one seems concerned with residue from their propane powered grills), but the way I look at it, I can heat with propane from the back of the pad 4 times faster than butane from the front

I love my concentrate toys got a new dabber and dish tonight, took two dabs while writing this

 

[weedemon]

I just wanted to add my xp on this one too. not using abv, but pretty much the same thing.

I use 99% iso to clean most of my vapes. I use the same iso over and over until it turns a maple syrup colour and then i filter it to remove any particulate that made it in there. Then i evap it in a hot water bath outside changing the water once it has cooled. repeat until totally dry.

I did the oven curing method, 20 min @ 220F (I am not sure this is really necessary since im working with already vaped material but i did it anyways) then I popped it in a water bath to cool quickly and into the freezer for a few hours.

scrape and collect and I ended up with a really nice jar of oil that is a molasses colour and very thick! lovely stuff. i use it in my eclipse.

 

[treecityrnd]

I use 99% iso to clean most of my vapes. I use the same iso over and over until it turns a maple syrup colour and then i filter it to remove any particulate that made it in there. Then i evap it in a hot water bath outside changing the water once it has cooled. repeat until totally dry.

i use it in my eclipse.

Exactly my method. I usually thow in my grinder, used screens, etc. for good measure (the old many birds with one stone trick). I then add this in with my AVB oil for a nice, round subjective effect that is almost unmistakable from the actual thing IMO. I have been washing my ABV oil 3x for a while. Tastes pretty nice in the eclipse.

 

[dorkus_molorkus]

I use 99% iso to clean most of my vapes. I use the same iso over and over until it turns a maple syrup colour and then i filter it to remove any particulate that made it in there. Then i evap it in a hot water bath outside changing the water once it has cooled. repeat until totally dry.

i use it in my eclipse.

Exactly my method. I usually thow in my grinder, used screens, etc. for good measure (the old many birds with one stone trick). I then add this in with my AVB oil for a nice, round subjective effect that is almost unmistakable from the actual thing IMO. I have been washing my ABV oil 3x for a while. Tastes pretty nice in the eclipse.

when you say ''I have been washing my ABV oil 3x for a while'' does that mean you are using new iso for each wash and use 3 times more iso or are you using the same iso & ABV & just running it thru & filter it 3 times?

EDIT: I'm only asking cause i hate the thought of throwing away some goodness that should be mine-lol

 

[weedemon]

good question m8, i also didn't follow that exactly either. plz elaborate Tree city!

 

[akwardsauce]

good question m8, i also didn't follow that exactly either. plz elaborate Tree city!

im assuming that he was saying that he uses a dosage of isopropyl alcohol to clean his stuff, then saves that same isopropyl-THC mixture to clean more stuff later...after he goes through 3 cleanings, he starts evaporating the mixture.

this would basically allow for more product per evaporation step - a good idea if you hate waiting for the alcohol to evaporate to enjoy your labors...

just do a bunch & save it all up & evaporate & scrape it all at once = higher yield & less work

however, you do have to find a nice safe place for your iso-THC mix between your cleanings...(maybe freezer?)

 

[Qbit]

however, you do have to find a nice safe place for your iso-THC mix between your cleanings...(maybe freezer?)

A jar with an airtight lid would be fine. You just need to make sure it can't evaporate.

 

[weedemon]

im assuming that he was saying that he uses a dosage of isopropyl alcohol to clean his stuff, then saves that same isopropyl-THC mixture to clean more stuff later...after he goes through 3 cleanings, he starts evaporating the mixture.

however, you do have to find a nice safe place for your iso-THC mix between your cleanings...(maybe freezer?)

ahh yes, I can make a bottle of iso last a year for vape cleaning only, and it' get very dark in the bottle! that's what i was saying earlier too.

I just store mine in a dark place back in the bottle it came in.

 

[akwardsauce]

im assuming that he was saying that he uses a dosage of isopropyl alcohol to clean his stuff, then saves that same isopropyl-THC mixture to clean more stuff later...after he goes through 3 cleanings, he starts evaporating the mixture.

however, you do have to find a nice safe place for your iso-THC mix between your cleanings...(maybe freezer?)

ahh yes, I can make a bottle of iso last a year for vape cleaning only, and it' get very dark in the bottle! that's what i was saying earlier too.

I just store mine in a dark place back in the bottle it came in.

good idea...i never saved mine that long...too impatient probably & i feel like i need an immediate reward once i convince myself to go thru with the clean. however, it must be nice to finally collect your investment!

reading back a few messages today, weedemon, you seem like quite a long-term saver...did you plan on doing the other experiment just for these testing purposes or were you planning on finally cashing in on your stuff for other reasons recently?

 

[treecityrnd]

Sorry I've been neglecting my posts. I was actually doing both processes described above.

Most of the time I will save my ISO in a sealed glass mason jar between vape/wand cleanings, etc. Then after 3 or 4 cleaning I will finally cure it.

As for the multiple washings... I tend to save everything. I'm a pack rat for sure. So I hate wasting good cannabinoids. Thus, I usually wash any ABV once to get a nice oil (frozen crystal method is my favorite), 3x filter with gold-plated coffee filters & unbleached paper ones. Then I QWISO (new, clean ISO) my ABV again for wash #2. Then do it again (fresh ISO) for a 3rd wash. I usually don't get much from my 3rd wash, but the fact that I get anything tells me the initial purge was incomplete.

Not as big of a problem with ABV as its already decarb'd, but very important to decarb for a complete purge with raw materials IMO. Please note this is only from past experience and reading/research of others ideas. Doesn't seem to be any double-blind, placebo-controlled studies of QWISO methodology. There should be...

Take a good oil rip for those suffering in Michigan!

BTW - thanks for the thread Q. Sorry if its gotten ISO sidetracked from its original BHO intentions. For my glass hash, I use a BHO and cold water extraction double purge. I find it doesn't work very well with ABV (not surprisingly, very low yields from the H2O purging with ABV).

 

[Blood420]

You can run butane extraction on ABV?? I would have thought that all the THC had evaporated off of the herb? Somebody educate me please

 

[StickyShisha2]

You can run butane extraction on ABV??

yes. thats what i do. i was shocked by the amount of "dark oil" it produced

i've been making dark BHO from ABV. I didn't like the taste of it off the Ti spork, but my room-mate has been using it with herb (he loves it).

its funny how things change. that house-mate no longer smokes, vapes only. and the Ti spork that brings back memories.
that was my first oil piece (the whip from my EZ-Vape + + a cheep butane jet lighter)