Dangers of Vaping CNN Story

[syrupy]

So full of ignorance...

Teens Hiding Dangerous Drugs In E-cigs.

 

[little maggie]

I don't see the ignorance after watching this. They are talking about teens vaping synthetic drugs- not natural herbs. "Flakka causes intense delusions, which are key to its allure yet also cause for concern. This controlled substance may be deadly, especially when combined with vaping (smoking it with a vaporizing e-cigarette)."
I think designer synthetic drugs are much riskier than natural "drugs" In spite of legal and medical opposition, most natural drugs have been used for centuries in different parts of the world.

 

[ataxian]

So full of ignorance...

Teens Hiding Dangerous Drugs In E-cigs.

This may be off topic however I believe CANNABIS needs quality assurance.

The LABS doing the testing are goof balls.

They receive the top colas and the smaller nuggets are ignored?

The results show 27% per say?

Which part of the plant?

The smaller nuggets may only have 10%
The dispensaries sell the small nuggets?

Once CANNABIS becomes legal maybe we will have more consistency?

 

[Gunky]

When they say 'vaping' in the mainstream media they often mean e-cigs and tobacco vape pens, not the sort of thing most of us are doing.

 

[syrupy]

When they say 'vaping' in the mainstream media they often mean e-cigs and tobacco vape pens, not the sort of thing most of us are doing.

Yeah, that's the problem I have with the story. Now it's being associated with synthetic drugs like bath salts.

 

[Farid]

I've saw this article on an e cig forum, and I was happy to see many of the users were not demonizing cannabis. A minority were anti cannabis since they saw cannabis use in ecigs as a way for e cigs to be regulated, but the majority understood that times have changed, and cannabis isn't going anywhere. Likewise, as cannabis vaporizer users, we should do our best to stand up for the rights of e cig users, as our cause is one and the same. A ban on e cig mods would likely be implemented as a ban on dry herb vaporizers as well.

 

[syrupy]

A ban on e cig mods would likely be implemented as a ban on dry herb vaporizers as well.

I wonder about this, and how herb vapes are perceived by the public and e-cig users. It seems like the oil vapes are the one that really look like e-cigs. For loose leaf, the Grasshopper looks most like an e-cig. But they all produce vapor so maybe the difference is just at the surface?

 

[howie105]

As vape users we see some of the gaps and some of the misrepresentations in the narrative, however the uninformed don't and so the fear of "DRUGS" continues to be promoted in the targeted consumer group. This just the old song and dance over again.

 

[Farid]

I wonder about this, and how herb vapes are perceived by the public and e-cig users. It seems like the oil vapes are the one that really look like e-cigs. For loose leaf, the Grasshopper looks most like an e-cig. But they all produce vapor so maybe the difference is just at the surface?

Well the way I thought of it is, if e cig atomizers are banned, then oil carts would also have to be banned because the wording of the law would be difficult to differentiate, and the law writers would not be considering this at all.

If e cig box mods were banned, then the wording of the law would also likely make having any vaporizer body illegal.

The way I see it is, if e cigs were banned, dry herb vapes would be used with cotton and e juice, and soon, dry herb vapes would be under scrutiny.

I'd say that regulating the hardware is less likely than just regulating nicotine. Thats why this article is such a threat - it's not complaining about THC use or nicotine use - it's complaining about the hardware itself being used for synthetic drugs. This is an absurd position, as these synthetic drugs could just be eaten, so it's not like vapes are allowing people to use them in public any more than they already are. An analogy I've seen thrown around is that banning atomizers or vapor hardware because they can be used with drugs is like banning spoons because they can be used to cook up a hit of dope.

 

[grokit]

They should ban cars as well, because a drunk could drive one at any time
And don't forget hammers, they can be used as murder weapons!

 

[herbivore21]

As vape users we see some of the gaps and some of the misrepresentations in the narrative, however the uninformed don't and so the fear of "DRUGS" continues to be promoted in the targeted consumer group. This just the old song and dance over again.

I am glad you highlight the term 'drugs' in inverted comma's. The problem with this article is that aside from flakka, there is no specific drug ever mentioned. It is very, very unclear what the piece is talking about.

The sooner this idiotic 'drugs' talk stops, the better. Many drugs are so different from one another and to talk of them all as the same thing is just stupid and meaningless.

Ecigs should be age restricted though, these should not be sold to teenagers! lol

Restriction of nicotine should already be happening! I can't believe that nicotine can be sold freely?!

 

[CarolKing]

People started using ecigs because they were healthier than cigarettes and not as smelly. Now all I hear is about banning them everywhere. In our state in some areas you can't even smoke in parks. They are talking about including ecigs with that too. Of course in our state they are going to heavily tax them.

It seems like there's getting to be too many restrictions in the area where I live. I'm not a smoker myself and I don't use an ecig I just vaporize cannabis and usually don't use it around others. I try to be discreet and not to flaunt what I'm doing as not to offend others. Cannabis is legal where I live but not using it in public is the law. I bend that a little bit sometimes.

 

[Gunky]

I think some of the e-cig type devices are portable all right but have issues with plastic etc in the vapor path. Also the ability to shove some cocktail of various extracts and ingredients into a cartridge is too great a temptation for some, so it needs some regulation, inspection, testing, etc. to ensure public safety.

By contrast, the hardware used for flowers, the sort reviewed on this site mostly, is better quality than a lot of those small pen-like things. Flowers and simple cannabis extracts like sieved hash and ice hash are natural products which don't require harmful preservatives etc and are safe as long as they are stored properly.

 

[Farid]

By contrast, the hardware used for flowers, the sort reviewed on this site mostly, is better quality than a lot of those small pen-like things.

There have been vaporizers (I can't recall the name) that had serious off gassing issues with melting etc.

Sure there are lots of chinese clones in the e cig industry, but there are also high quality domestic companies that make products that are safe (ignoring the safety of nicotine and pg/vg itself). I don't vaporizre liquid or nicotine, but I have come to the conclusion that banning vaporizers for liquid would effectively lead to a ban on vaporizers for flowers.

 

[Gunky]

I don't say ban liquid vape pens. But if people are going to sell some multi-ingredient liquid in cartridges to be vaped by other people, there have to be controls, just like when you buy packaged food it has ingredients. Otherwise you get people selling stuff with arsenic in it.

As for those 'bath salts' and 'synthetic marijuana', pfooey! Get the word out, especially to kids: real weed is OK but this synthetic stuff is stupid and risky; don't be a victim.

 

[CarolKing]

More Teens Vaping Pot, Researchers Say

Teens Using E-Cig Devices to Vaporize Pot, Researchers
ABC News

SEP 7, 2015, 11:13 AM
Teens are increasingly turning to electronic cigarettes not to get their tobacco fix, but instead to inhale pot.

A new study published in the medical journal Pediatrics found that teens have devised ways to turn e-cigarettes into devices for hashish oil, marijuana, wax and other cannabis products. Researchers surveyed 3,847 Connecticut high school students about their drug and e-cigarette use and found that students using e-cigarettes to vaporize cannabis was 27 times higher than the adult rate.

According to the study, 5.5 percent of the students surveyed had used an e-cigarette to vaporize cannabis. In total, nearly 30 percent of students said they had tried marijuana or hashish in some form. Of those students who already smoked marijuana, 18 percent had used an e-cigarette to “vape” the drug.

Those damn kids are going to screw it all up for the rest of us.
CK

 

[Gunky]

I have no problem with kids mixing up their own cartridges with hash oil or something. What scares me is some pimply-faced entrepreneur using chemicals made on machines and in environments not up to code for human ingestion, without proper oversight or testing and mixing up some awful stuff that ends up poisoning people.

 

[CarolKing]

There's some bad stuff out there other than our fav herb flower. It's just sometimes the ecigs are getting a bad rap.

Our state government where I live is trying to tax the hell out of everything including now ecigs, taxing cannabis at 37% + 10% sales tax. Our gas tax is through the roof too.

 

[Gunky]

The thing is a cartridge containing a liquid is really a black box at present. Who knows what the hell somebody put in there? It reminds me of the early seventies getting capsules said to contain mescalin. If you were lucky they were acid and filler. If not, horse tranks!

 

[bibblybobbly]

Me and my friends were on some of these "legal highs" years ago, when mephedrone was brand new on the scene, and before the tabloid hype. A guy at school was into the "legal high" culture and so we were exposed to these things a bit ahead of the curve, when we were dumb kids. After a few psychotic episodes (anybody remember MDPV?!), and 2 guys developing addictions, we decided to move on!

Sadly, functional groups are still being tweaked, and new variants are emerging thick and fast. Each seems worse than the last! I think kids see it as a cost-effective way of getting pure substances (we did) - regardless of the fact that these substances are evil poisons. After all, why buy expensive black market cocaine or MDMA when you could order lab-grade whatever over the internet for less money? (I also wonder what percentage of street coke is actually mephedrone etc. nowadays.)

Just another inevitable economic by-product of the "drug war" if you ask me.

 

[Snappo]

More Teens Vaping Pot, Researchers Say

Teens Using E-Cig Devices to Vaporize Pot, Researchers
ABC News

SEP 7, 2015, 11:13 AM
Teens are increasingly turning to electronic cigarettes not to get their tobacco fix, but instead to inhale pot.

A new study published in the medical journal Pediatrics found that teens have devised ways to turn e-cigarettes into devices for hashish oil, marijuana, wax and other cannabis products. Researchers surveyed 3,847 Connecticut high school students about their drug and e-cigarette use and found that students using e-cigarettes to vaporize cannabis was 27 times higher than the adult rate.

According to the study, 5.5 percent of the students surveyed had used an e-cigarette to vaporize cannabis. In total, nearly 30 percent of students said they had tried marijuana or hashish in some form. Of those students who already smoked marijuana, 18 percent had used an e-cigarette to “vape” the drug.

Those damn kids are going to screw it all up for the rest of us.
CK

The article should've extolled the fact that at least these kids are seeking out & using a more healthful method of imbibing herb that they would otherwise be using anyway in a very unhealthful way. And if these journalists and the rags they write for were ahead of the curve like we are they would also be extolling the fact that due to the much greater efficiency vapes afford, less herb would be used, bought, and sold.