the electrician
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i dont think challenging was the word you were looking for. tedious perhaps
Cool music to vape to, you know the tunes that move you
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jeffp
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Trout Mask? No - you can't listen to an album like that with a remote control in your hand.
It requires submission and repeated listening to get it. I know it's dense and brutal and unrelenting - to me it's a masterpiece.
Some of my favorite all time albums were albums that I hated when I first heard it, like "Absolutely Free."
It requires submission and repeated listening to get it. I know it's dense and brutal and unrelenting - to me it's a masterpiece.
Some of my favorite all time albums were albums that I hated when I first heard it, like "Absolutely Free."
the electrician
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no i mean its a poor example of the genre, if youre gonna call that dense youve got some discoveries ahead. you have no idea what dense, brutal and unrelenting mean
the electrician
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because what you called a masterpiece i considered more of a demo tape from a group of 16 years just discovering drugs.
were clearly talking about avant garde. secret chiefs 3 are pretty much my butt buddies these days and they set the bar very very high.
were clearly talking about avant garde. secret chiefs 3 are pretty much my butt buddies these days and they set the bar very very high.
jeffp
psychonaut/retired
vliet and the magic band as sixteen year old dilettantes?
avant garde can mean a million different things - "the american metaphysical circus" for example is definitely avant garde on a conceptual level but it's not dense and unrelenting. same goes for "tonto's expanding head band," just to cite a few examples off the top of my head.
avant garde can mean a million different things - "the american metaphysical circus" for example is definitely avant garde on a conceptual level but it's not dense and unrelenting. same goes for "tonto's expanding head band," just to cite a few examples off the top of my head.
the electrician
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do you even know what youre saying any more?
the electrician
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whoa ho, didnt know i was talking to a professional here. i better bow my ignorant ass outjeffp said:
jeffp
psychonaut/retired
You might like "The Shape of Jazz To Come" - it's just as interior, "free jazz," "avant garde," but I think more accessible. "Love Call" is also a beautiful yet complex album. That's actually my favorite Ornette album, for no particular reason. It's all a matter of taste, whether or not music is deemed brilliant and revolutionary or not, it's all about what you like and don't like.
Tell me this isn't a fantastic record cover:
Tell me this isn't a fantastic record cover:
i'm embarrassed to say "shape of jazz to come" is what i've been having such trouble with. i guess i just need to be more patient.
it's always been my experience that the best albums are the ones that take many, many listens to open up to me. but this one -- i wonder if i just don't have enough jazz under my belt. i'll keep trying.
it's always been my experience that the best albums are the ones that take many, many listens to open up to me. but this one -- i wonder if i just don't have enough jazz under my belt. i'll keep trying.
jeffp
psychonaut/retired
Well in the meantime check out Kenny Burrell, "God Bless The Child." It's produced by Creed Taylor from Verve and of CTI and it has that lush, no holds barred type of arrangements that he did so well.
Also check out any of the small band Wes Montgomery albums like "Boss Guitar" but also check out his later A&M material like "A Day In The Life" - that period is somewhat dismissed as being overly arranged by Don Sebesky and less "pure" but to me it's all brilliant and masterful.
Also check out any of the small band Wes Montgomery albums like "Boss Guitar" but also check out his later A&M material like "A Day In The Life" - that period is somewhat dismissed as being overly arranged by Don Sebesky and less "pure" but to me it's all brilliant and masterful.
mastermorley
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Mahler symphonies
jeffp
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Charles Bukowski made 24 allusions to Mahler, including specific references to the Fifth and Tenth Symphonies, and the movie Barfly included parts of Mahler's Sixth. Mahler's music is a search for the meaning of life, and in "Notes of a Dirty Old Man" Bukowski listened to Mahler in the dark.
SkeletonLips
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Currently listening to the masterpiece by Sublime, "Robbin' the Hood". I love this album. I revisit it every year, about this time, to amp myself up for spring and summer. Great for vapin' to.
hopandstop
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Check out Frog Eyes and Blackout Beach, and Blue Pine if you're so inclined.
Konrad_Zuse
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I listen to VGM and Techno/trance/house/ambient, etc. I love the beats and everything, I feel right in the middle of the action 
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SkeletonLips
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Carey Mercer has such an interesting and unique voice. Have you checked out Swan Lake? I love those guys' music. A canadian supergroup of today!hopandstop said:
Konrad, what artists do you listen to? I love learning about new electronic artists, as they usually don't have the same amount of publicity that most other kinds of musicians get. And I got into electronic music deep, for the last two years or so, but have listened to Aphex Twin for about 12 years now. So much good shit coming out these days.
Sour, I was listening to Clouddead's self titled album the other day, and turned a friend on to their brand of underground rap. Do you listen to any Doom, Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, or Finale? Those are a few underground ones that I can think of off the top of my head. I would love to hear some suggestions on new artists from you, too.
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