Djsleepy
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I’ve heard it hits more like TM.
ConVex by Entheos Devices (formerly Tokedvapors)
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This heater is also similar to the Vleaf Go heater.
bossman
Gentleman Of Leisure
The side-by-side quest continues!
It'd be good to see videos demonstrating even extraction (like show us the abv between hits).
Also did I read the vapor path is aluminum and steel? That doesn't jive with the pics of the inside.
And yeah, get a hula stem in there for sure!
It'd be good to see videos demonstrating even extraction (like show us the abv between hits).
Also did I read the vapor path is aluminum and steel? That doesn't jive with the pics of the inside.
And yeah, get a hula stem in there for sure!
I have yet still to play with mine I have been so busy with other things I got parts to replace the stem just need to finish it. It has took taken the spot of my tinymight for sure though. My tinymight didn’t get as much use for how well it worked because of its inability to do longer sessions.
buckhakeesah
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Had no idea. I'll have to take a look at this. I never owned a Vleaf device before.
ChilledAsian
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this doesn't have a mesh heater..
GoldenBud
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which heater is it? what TCR value for this one?
doctapeppa
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You can see it here. "Cool Tokedvapor Trick" video.. I believe the heater is something @Berimbolero designed himself. Not 100% sure.
ConVex by Entheos Devices (formerly Tokedvapors)
Digging that compact form factor! Looks quick and easy to get into!
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Improvaper
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It appears to be a corrugated strip of ss316. Tcr value of 185. So, closer to a TM than a Bowle.
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It's SS316 in a Zirconia box. I think that meets the criteria of similar.
ChilledAsian
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45w 185 lock resistance below .007
PPN
Volute of Vapor
In my humble opinion the TokedVapor is a great little device, I don't know any device which is hitting like another, it offers great hits but it's not like a Bowle or a TM, there is a slightly bigger learning curve, it's less plug&play than the 2 others mentionned.
Here my concerns: I can get pretty nice high temp hits, although when I'm trying to lower the temp I have a good taste but quasi no clouds... I like clouds! I believe it's cause the low mass heater, efficient low temp hits need a massive heater to distribute a steady amount of heat. I think a bigger heating element can fix that but the counterpart will be a slow heat up.
Is somebody else has the the same feeling? or am I doing something wrong...
I can see a lot of potential, definitively one of the most interesting unit since the TM (yes the Bowle is great too but it's a niche vape since the "special" design and size), awesome work @Berimbolero !
Here my concerns: I can get pretty nice high temp hits, although when I'm trying to lower the temp I have a good taste but quasi no clouds... I like clouds! I believe it's cause the low mass heater, efficient low temp hits need a massive heater to distribute a steady amount of heat. I think a bigger heating element can fix that but the counterpart will be a slow heat up.
Is somebody else has the the same feeling? or am I doing something wrong...
I can see a lot of potential, definitively one of the most interesting unit since the TM (yes the Bowle is great too but it's a niche vape since the "special" design and size), awesome work @Berimbolero !
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Sorry for the back to back post but i noticed a few things after i got some small testing issues with the TKV:
- Ambiant air humidity is playing a large rôle, got 2 rainy days and the TKV got issues to extract
- grind, definitively it prefers a fine one
- airflow, it's very open but you have to restrict your draw by yourself to get good vapor
- abv, it's one of my convection vape which is giving the lighter in colour abv, yellowish, though it looks like most goodies was extracted
- abv(2), I noticed if i want to go darker I get a burnt taste even without burning load but only a dark spot
- Hits, usually the first one is slightly whisp but tasty as F*, 2nd hit is a very big hit, you get a few more and it's depleted (the load, not the battery!)
- stirs, I stir but the maker said to just shake, although i'm so used to stirring I usually forgot to shake
- T°, it looks like there is some differences between units (and peoples also!) cause I tend to use higher T° than @Berimbolero expected, I'm using mine between 240°C and 255°C
- modes: still use exclusively or close the on-demand mode, didn't got any luck with the cruise mod although i only tried to use them like they come without to change any setting
- Taste: initially i had a "muted" taste... but i believe it was only cause the break down "new thing" cause now the taste is pretty amazing
- Clouds, they are very big if you want and if you are paying attention about what you do (restrict draw mainly) you can vape a whole small bowl in 2 or 3 hits!
Can't wait to see the "true" production units! They will be amazing for sure!
- Ambiant air humidity is playing a large rôle, got 2 rainy days and the TKV got issues to extract
- grind, definitively it prefers a fine one
- airflow, it's very open but you have to restrict your draw by yourself to get good vapor
- abv, it's one of my convection vape which is giving the lighter in colour abv, yellowish, though it looks like most goodies was extracted
- abv(2), I noticed if i want to go darker I get a burnt taste even without burning load but only a dark spot
- Hits, usually the first one is slightly whisp but tasty as F*, 2nd hit is a very big hit, you get a few more and it's depleted (the load, not the battery!)
- stirs, I stir but the maker said to just shake, although i'm so used to stirring I usually forgot to shake
- T°, it looks like there is some differences between units (and peoples also!) cause I tend to use higher T° than @Berimbolero expected, I'm using mine between 240°C and 255°C
- modes: still use exclusively or close the on-demand mode, didn't got any luck with the cruise mod although i only tried to use them like they come without to change any setting
- Taste: initially i had a "muted" taste... but i believe it was only cause the break down "new thing" cause now the taste is pretty amazing
- Clouds, they are very big if you want and if you are paying attention about what you do (restrict draw mainly) you can vape a whole small bowl in 2 or 3 hits!
Can't wait to see the "true" production units! They will be amazing for sure!
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Improvaper
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So does a 20mm screen
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Hi others TKV testers, how do you use your unit? I still have to find the perfect technic... sometimes it's nice for sipping and enjoying arômas and sometimes it's nice to pull out some big clouds but I like the sweet spot in-between... I use mine mainly with on-demand mode and rarely used the Cruise mode although I'm afraid I'm missing something...? So if you can get nice enough to share about your favourite technic with the TKV...?
About load size too, if I understood well @Berimbolero just throwed a pinch or two and shake between hits to stir... I found a bigger load allow bigger clouds and to tamp down a little helps to avoid hot spots, with loosely filled load the hot air follows the shorter path creating (small) hotspots. How do you load? Do you stir or shake?
I don't stir with the TM but the load is very small (I set the screen to a Vapcap load size).
TIA
About load size too, if I understood well @Berimbolero just throwed a pinch or two and shake between hits to stir... I found a bigger load allow bigger clouds and to tamp down a little helps to avoid hot spots, with loosely filled load the hot air follows the shorter path creating (small) hotspots. How do you load? Do you stir or shake?
I don't stir with the TM but the load is very small (I set the screen to a Vapcap load size).
TIA
Hi Everyone
Apologies for being inactive online for the past month. I'll try to reply to the posts I've missed.
Another value that users could play around with to fine tune their heaters is the power wattage, the mods usually go up to 70w.
To change this:
click 4 times on the fire button. (the text should start flashing).
Scroll thru with up/down to get to PWR.
Click right/up button to edit.
Use up/down button to inc/dec wattage value.
I'll try to experiment with different combinations like maybe a higher wattage with a lower coil resistance value and see if any difference in draw technique and vapor production happens.
Apologies for being inactive online for the past month. I'll try to reply to the posts I've missed.
Another value that users could play around with to fine tune their heaters is the power wattage, the mods usually go up to 70w.
To change this:
click 4 times on the fire button. (the text should start flashing).
Scroll thru with up/down to get to PWR.
Click right/up button to edit.
Use up/down button to inc/dec wattage value.
I'll try to experiment with different combinations like maybe a higher wattage with a lower coil resistance value and see if any difference in draw technique and vapor production happens.
DryBonesufo
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Anymore test units coming out? Would love to be a tester
With the current production still dependent on retrofitting existing box mods, it might take a while before metal versions can be made. The overall dimensions and button orientations of the chips all vary depending on the model it was taken from. Metal is costly to have machined in small quantities.
The electronic chip is the main problem really to get the production going. I was able to talk to a big vape manufacturer that offers ODM services which actually includes the production of the chip but the amount required for their MOQ is vastly out of reach currently.
You mentioned humidity in your other post and that may play a factor. It was a really dry summer here when I was building and testing the heaters of the first few orders. You could try using cruise mode as like a warmup function, like leave it in cruise for 15-30 secs before continuing with an on demand hit.
Load size, you can fully fill up the bowl if that is how much you'd like to consume. A full bowl for me usually weighs from 0.15g to under 0.2g
I don't usually get hotspots with lesser amount of loads. I just make sure the load is evenly spread within the circular shape of the bowl. Some buds, I guess the sticky ones, usually need to be poked around to get spread evenly.
Improvaper
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I'm finding better low-temp performance turning off Eco mode. No more ghost hits.
I'm liking the S&B capsule bottom as screen method as well.
I'm liking the S&B capsule bottom as screen method as well.
PPN
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Since a week I have best reliable performances but it happened I increased a lot the set temp, I'm now using it at 250°C, lowered coil at 0.239, lowered power at 48w and got solid clouds similar to the ones I have out of my TinyMight but have to draw noticeably slower and for longer also. I don't get a blackened abv and stirs/shake every 2-3 hits. I always found the TM taste a bit "roasted", it's not the case with the TKV, taste is more "floral" and let the strain to exprim himself!
Hi @Berimbolero is the body the bigger issue to keep you away to follow the artisan path, maybe it's a better path than trying to mass product it, less risky but not effortless though... why not a wood encasing, or semi wood/semi metal ?
Hi @Berimbolero is the body the bigger issue to keep you away to follow the artisan path, maybe it's a better path than trying to mass product it, less risky but not effortless though... why not a wood encasing, or semi wood/semi metal ?
ProfessionalHandJob
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Stoked to have picked up one of these, can't wait to give it a try once it arrives! :-)
PPN
Volute of Vapor
Glad to know you was able to get one, let us to know what you think of the device!