Just seems no one company has got it all right yet & seeing that everything somehow screw together we could be getting the very best without compromise by using different companies.
And thanks for your advice OF!
First off, you're welcome, glad to help if I can.
I don't think it's a matter of nobody having it 'just right' as much as a matter of no clear unconscious of what "right" is. Some are clearly out to make a profit from the cheapest thing they can offer (they tend to sell e-cigs either stock or lightly modified). TV, in one camp, is driven by materials selection and 'medical grade' construction and quality. D9 is trying to make a complete 'model for every user' line. Each approach has advantages and disadvantages as you point out.
I advise avoiding machines designed and made for other tasks (lets out a lot of 'makers'). When it comes down to TV and D9 (which I think it naturally does), there are thread adapters available.
I think Revolution/DART is top of the heap for vapor quality and user control of performance (although it does need reloading often). Omicron, OTOH, feeds well ('no brainer vaping') but when pushed past the modest levels it was originally designed for (the eternal quest for yet 'bigger clouds') oil taste usually suffers and leaks often plague the effort.
Given that Revolution/DART seems to run best on the TV supply, I think that's a reasonable way to start. This also gives you the option of bubble and solid concentrates. However, for a five dollar adapter and ten dollar cart you can add Omicron features to the game as well. Should you have concentrates that feed well (they don't all.....) you're in fat city. Otherwise, you're still in the game.
Seems that almost everyone that goes for one of the modified e-cigs ends up regretting it, some sooner than others. There's a clue in the length of the threads on the device specific forums.
I too am looking for a 'pen style' vape for concentrates. I am looking to use oils and wax but am also very confused how this all works. I've watched multiple YouTube tutorials and review as well as read multiple threads here and other forums.
I am leaning towards the Gentleman but am still very confused which model to pick because they all come with different parts a d cartridges.
Maybe because I don't understand what all the concentrates are and how they are purchased, but from what I 'think' there are different viscosity of oil and then there is wax (which is almost a solid).
Like the gentleman brand offers different cartridges: hash oil atomizer, honey oil cartomizer and tincture tank, what is each used for? I can't comprehend how the oil is put in the oil atomizer without it going everywhere.
I advise against this vape. For some of the reasons you cite. It's at best a compromise.
Here's the brief run down. Concentrates are just that, the good stuff separated from at least some of the not useful stuff. This can be as simple as collecting the kief or trichomes (where the resin usually is) mechanically. Sifting through fine screens, either dry or wet, is used. Lots of ice in the water bath will freeze the trichomes (the fuzz on the good buds) so it snaps free and sinks. This is often called 'bubble hash'. It can then be dried and pressed into solid lumps as is traditional in the parts of the world it normally comes from (like Lebanon, Afghanistan and so on). It sores well and 'smokes' fine. Typically these might be say 30 to 50% THC.
Solvents (alcohols, Butane, Hexane and CO2 (under extreme pressure) are probably the most common) can be used to further concentrate stuff. Each solvent also dissolves other things like plant oils as well. And of course all the solvent has to be removed (called purging) before use. This might get the concentrations up to the 50 to 80% range and ends up giving you a liquid which might be very thick at room temperature. Done carefully, you get a near solid, often called 'shatter' because it will that is pure but sometimes hard to work with. For instance, it doesn't feed well in Omicrons often. Most are thin oils (from thinner than syrup to solid enough at room temperatures to pass for waxes. These guys tend to feed well in Omicron if they're thick enough. Thin ones are still a problem there, but Revolution/DART which absorbs the hot oil into porous ceramic rather than try to feed it up a wick 'does it all' well.
The 'extra stuff' will eventually foul the works. Omicron carts you just replace, TV carts you can boil clean again and start over.
When you go to buy it, look for high THC content (less other stuff to cause problems, more 'bang for the buck'). Favor waxes and thicker concentrates for ease of handling. Look for lighter color (less chlorophyll and other 'plant junk'), avoid those with any solids with Omicron. A good test is to put a tiny bit on a bit of aluminum foil and heat it with you lighter. Look for it to completely melt and flow freely followed by completely evaporating and leaving no residue. The residue will eventually kill your cart or force you to stop the fun and clean Revolution/DART loosing .2 grams or so in the process.
To feed well in the e-cig carts it's normal practice to dilute the oil down with PG or VG as is done with Nicotine so it will feed well. Typical 'strong' prefills are 1/4 oil (and not always the best grade). Think about it, 3/4 of what you pay for won't get you high and you'll end up with about half of that still soaked into the cotton batting in the cart when it runs slow. I'm not kidding, you can literally get 5 or more times the THC delivered for the same money with the purpose built gear. Your money, your call.
I think you can find the bucks to go with the purpose built vapes from D9 or TV now, or go cheap, fight it for a while and give up (bad option) or abandon the effort and go with 'the big dogs' then?
OF
