What do you guys think of distillate? I've never tried it.
I am a big fan, but I favor an entourage effect of all active compounds and tend to use distillate crystals to compliment other concentrates. Rarely do i use distillate or isolate by itself.
It should have an entourage effect as long as the terpenes are included, right?
I'm going to try it on the next trip. I've seen the price fall on 1gr from $45 -> $27. The producer claims 75-90% potency. I do like that this particular distillate comes in a syringe with a metal needle applicator tip. They only have a couple of strains available at the moment, but both looked quite clear with a slight yellow tint. The caregivers were raving about it, but then again that was when it was going for $45/gr =)
I've generally avoided distillates because they used to cost alot more, 60-80 / gram or more, but as
@psychonaut pointed out, it seems to be getting more affordable and competitive in CA at least. I have almost always seen distaillates in little glass jars, which I find the least desirable (most wasteful, difficult) storage method for sticky concentrates like that, which has deterred me, but I'm starting to see them in syringes now too (much better)
I just picked up a couple of syringes from @golddropco, sour tangie and skywalker og, thinking they were co2 oil, but after more research, I'm thinking they are actually distillate with terps re-introduced.
this first one is a perfect halo of pop naturals pineapple on a clean 10mm donut
(yum yum so good om-nom)
Then I napkin-cleaned the reclaim after 2 mighty puffs and 2 mild ones, and applied the gold drop over the minimal reclaim remains.
It's super light hued, and at 86% thc, I think that's over the standard range for co2 oil, it must be distiallate. My other gold drop syringe, skywalker og, is only 60%, but the same hue, go figure
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As
@FlyingLow and
@herbivore21 said, pure distillate will have a mild, almost non-existent taste, and can be up to 99% pure, but many producers are mixing in a small amount (3-5%?) of terps to re-create strain profiles.
I'm strongly considering getting some to make my own prefilled carts for those times when you don't want to fuck with anything.
Thanks sir! Always good to hear your thoughts. I'm thinking of making some prefilled carts for my mom for easy night time pain management and fibromyalgia. Distillate seems like a safe clean option. I've never tried any myself yet though. It seems like it would be cheaper to fill my own carts than buy.
Be careful about your choice of carts, ecig tank style carts are often not made very safely. Distillates must always be tested for pesticides, microbials, residual solvents etc. If you do not have test results for this stuff, beware. Distillation is the easiest way to polish the ugliest of turds.
For your use, why not co2? It looks like you're moving in that direction. For most healthy people and consumers, seeing detailed, trust-worthy lab results for contaminants and terpenes, not just 2 or 3 cannabinoids, is not the most important thing, or even available at all. I don't demand lab tests for everything I vape; I prefer it, but I use my judgement and brand trust too. But I can also understand this being of greater concern for some medical uses. Pop naturals is one of the few brands testing to that level, or reporting it at least, that I know of.
My other concern is the generic pre-filled carts you're looking into. They are often made of plastic, have cotton/silica wicks, and universally lack temp-controllable, sub-ohm coils, meaning they burn by definition. Yes, they are reliable and easy to use for mom, but why bother with sourcing the cleanest medicine if you're gonna put it in a delivery system that will add formaldehyde and pyrolysis to your vapor, at the least? (backward priority, or paradoxical, maybe?)
I wish my "vape donkey" RTAs could be more user-friendly for all the moms and pee-paws out there
Not there yet but we're working on it.
Thanks for this info bro! Maybe I will try that Pop Natural C02 oil. They are the only one I know of even testing for pesticides and microbials. I need to do a lot more research on distillate I guess as I was thinking it was like distilled water and the distillation process removed residual solvents and pesticides.
These are the carts I was looking at.
https://maxvapornail.com/collection...artridge-with-ceramic-core-and-preheater-coil
Pop Naturals sells their prefilled carts for $35 for .5g or their 1g strain specific syringe for $40 so filling my own is a lot cheaper.
https://popnaturals.com/our-process/
@looney2nz posts a lot about Pop Naturals in the Divine Tribe thread. He's definitely piqued my interest and attention towards them. I have not seen any lab tested distillate at all. Actually I have but not for anything but THC, CBD, and CBN.
It's a great product, but rapidly became a bit TOO popular, they seem to have caught up tho.
I'm not a fan of the pen carts, they are just intensely foul, regardless of the quality of the oil
I dove into the Divine Tribe and Box/mod stuff to fill the gap while my Herbalaire was being serviced... Herbalaire bats cleanup these days. I can recommend that approach, including the Cubis Mini Pro with the modified vaporizer setup by
@Vape Donkey. I use them primarily with the PopNaturals oils, but I've also had some live resins thrown into the mix. You will LOVE seeing the labs on the PopNaturals product.
The distillate I've seen was for CBD and was 99% (questioning my memory again), it came in a powder form which can be vaped but can also be taken orally (and is readily dissolvable and tasteless). It did not contain any information about the base used in the powder and I'm waiting for some answers in the next few days. Unless I'm completely dim, I think distillate is referencing fractional-distillation, which is the likely candidate for producing an isolate.
Does the Pop Naturals taste proper or does it have that "c02 flavor" ?
Hey
@looney2nz thanks for the mention, hope your tanks are working well for you and that you're managing to keep them filled up
Do the pop naturals taste proper or have the co2 flavor?
Well, yes, and yes. They are quite proper, and they taste like co2 oil, not sure if I follow you there.
Like looney said, the pop nat's taste very smooth and reflect the strain of extract very well. I only really vaped these on the DT v2/v3 attys, so IME, the first 1-3 puffs of pop nats (or any good co2) taste great and are smooth, and the remaining reclaim hits taste kinda standard, dry, perhaps pop-corny, like vaped flowers? It's a different reclaim taste than BHO reclaim, so maybe that's what you are referring to? That's also why I have a dedicated co2 oil rig for my dedicated co2 oil evic / DT v3s, so I don't mix "co2 dab water taste" with "bho dab water taste" in between water changes, but that's just me.
self-plug
couldn't resist