Combustion Withdrawl?

[Yehawwielon]

Hey everyone, I've been lurking on this forum for some time and asked a few questions as of late too. Thanks to the help I received here I've been able to choose my first vape (LSV) which should be here tomorrow as long as the fed ex website isn't lying to me. Anyway, during my time on here and other forums I've seen multiple mentions of what I can only call combustion withdrawl. Basically, it seems like certain people really have a hard time getting used to vaping. Now I've vaped plenty before and unlike some of these posters, I've never had an issue with vaping and getting baked. That said though, I've always been really into bongs and bong rips and I'm just wondering if combustion withdrawl isn't gonna be a bit of a problem for me. I'm 21 and I've been smoking for a long time. I'm not gonna say exactly when I started for fear of breaking a forum rule, but rest assured that its been quite a while. More than enough time for me to get used to and, I must admit, comfortable with combustion.

Up until recently I didn't give a fuck about the effects of smoking but recently I've realized I shouldn't ignore this any longer. No matter how hard combustion withdrawl proves I am fully committed to fighting through it. However, what I'm wondering is if there's anything I can do that will help me avoid feeling the worst parts of this. I realize its possible that only some people experience this and I'll be completely fine. My goal right now is to make sure the beginning of my vaping career is a happy occasion and not me wishing I could go back to nasty ass combustion for the next month. Any suggestions, stories or feedback is appreciated.

I'm about to go load up my bong for my final night of combustion. Wooooo!

 

[Mr. Gweilo 420]

When I fucked combustion I went off smoking bongs and a pack and a half of cigarettes a day. I would say in terms of MJ the switch was easy. I took to vaping like a duck to water and have never looked back. Actually, the only setback in the initial period was my need for a more powerful vaporizer. I would say I had zero withdrawal effects to be honest.

The cigarettes were much worse though. I used an e-cig to quit which helped. I was definitely off for a couple of weeks but then I was fine.

Are you smoking and quitting cigarettes too? Or is it just MJ. I think if you are just switching from combusting MJ to vaping then you should be fine. Good luck

 

[McSheamus]

I am also 21, smoked everyday for 5 years. Been vaping only for 3 months. Only had a few hits of a joint in the meanwhile, to see if it tastes and how my stomach reacts.

No problem of leaving the joints. First 3 weeks it was more difficult because I was used to smoke with tobacco. Tobacco is way more addictive than marihuana! But with joints for the last year, my stomach was doing really annoying. Feeling of puking but never had to puke. With vaping I have no problems at all. So with a big health reason, it was quite easy to switch.

Dreaming vividly for 2 months, now it's almost gone (as long as I vape straight before going to bed) and I was really irritable for the first month.

That's all I had of withdrawal, no biggie here. After 3 months I feel my lungs are bigger than ever + cleaner + my vaporizers have already paid for themselves since I vape half of what I smoked in a week, even less also sometimes.

Just do it.

 

[Derrrpp]

Similar story here. Also 21, fucked combustion a while back (including quitting cigs) because I had started to develop a rather nasty smokers cough. I took to vaporizing right away, never had any problems with a combustion withdrawal. Yeah, the high's a little different but IMO it's better than a combustion one (cleaner feeling kinda).

I quit the cigarettes with the help of an e-cig, and never had any problems there either (thankfully, as some people have a MUCH harder time making that switch). Since saying FUCK COMBUSTION, I feel amazing! My smokers cough has gone away completely, and my lungs feel better than they have in years! I'm so glad I made the switch, and it makes me so happy when other people do too. (I just recently got a friend of mine to switch to vaping as well -- WIN)

Anyway, I wish you the best of luck @Yehawwielon with your switch to vaping! You'll definitely be glad you did!

EDIT: +1 to what max said. Not so much a "withdrawal", but more of a feeling of missing something. He described it excellently. And the LSV is a hard enough hitter from what I understand, that you should be alright.

 

[Delta3DStudios]

31 YO here. Smoked MJ for 10 years. Never smoked tobacco.

Friend introduced me to his PAX vape, and it blew my mind that you could have a vape that small. So I started exploring the interwebs, and bought myself a Davinci Ascent (still my best tasting low-temperature vape).

Being a gadget geek, I of course used my Ascent exclusively for about a week or two straight. Just because I loved finally being able to medicate in the house (my wife is against smoking inside).

After about 10 or 12 days, I decided to pull out my old faithful hand bubbler and combust. As soon as I opened the storage box, I got a whiff of nasty combustion resin I went on to combust with my wife on the porch, and could not stand it!

The taste was horrendous. I could no longer handle the taste and smell of combustion. From then on, I knew I'd fucked combustion. In the year since then, I have probably taking a puff a handfull of times in social gatherings with friends. But I personally have no desire to go back to combusting.

I had no real medical need to convert, it was just a natural progression. Why have chopped liver, when you can have filet mignon for less money!

 

[max]

I think that's the first time I've heard of problems with converting to vapor described as 'withdrawal', and I'd say that's a bad term for the issue, since withdrawal symptoms normally mean you're experiencing discomfort by depriving the body of something it's become dependent on. I certainly wouldn't say it would give you withdrawal symptoms like quitting cigarettes, caffeine, or certain drugs (whether a street drug or one provided by big pharma). When I quit smoking and started vaping, I'd been smoking mj (on a very regular basis) for far longer than you've been alive, and all I got was the vague feeling that something was missing, effect wise. I quickly discovered that most of what was missing could be supplied by vaping at higher temps, and the rest of the smoke effects were negative (including the effect of smoke hitting my throat and lungs) and good riddance.

If you feel like you are in withdrawal when you switch to vaping only, then I'd say you've been overdoing your cannabis consumption, and all the more reason to switch to a more efficient method.

 

[OnCloud8]

<--fucked combustion 5 years ago after 15 years of smoking. I also wouldn't call it "withdraw" but I know what you are talking about! I think if you are used to using combustion you are used to a certain level of poisoning from all those chemicals in smoke that are not the primary actives. It can be such a cleaner feeling with vaping, that it almost feels incomplete at first. My advice (and this goes for giving anything up) is to just make peace with the idea that there will be an adjustment period when you feel sorta unsatisfied and missing what you are used to. But push through that period and you will be so happy you did. I went from "missing" the headache and foggy feelings from smoking to loving the fact that I can indulge without that head haze.

TL/DR: You may face a period of adjustment, push through it! You'll be happy you did

 

[McSheamus]

I think that's the first time I've heard of problems with converting to vapor described as 'withdrawal', and I'd say that's a bad term for the issue, since withdrawal symptoms normally mean you're experiencing discomfort by depriving the body of something it's become dependent on. I certainly wouldn't say it would give you withdrawal symptoms like quitting cigarettes, caffeine, or certain drugs (whether a street drug or one provided by big pharma). When I quit smoking and started vaping, I'd been smoking mj (on a very regular basis) for far longer than you've been alive, and all I got was the vague feeling that something was missing, effect wise. I quickly discovered that most of what was missing could be supplied by vaping at higher temps, and the rest of the smoke effects were negative (including the effect of smoke hitting my throat and lungs) and good riddance.

If you feel like you are in withdrawal when you switch to vaping only, then I'd say you've been overdoing your cannabis consumption, and all the more reason to switch to a more efficient method.

For me it was exactly withdrawal, of tobacco. I like to say detox, but withdrawal was the word used here...
I was overdoing it also when smoking. The first weeks vaping I did a significant amount less, wich also contribueted to the detox effects in a way.

I also still have the feeling of missing something. But like you said, higher temps resolve that.

 

[max]

For me it was exactly withdrawal, of tobacco.

Since the nicotine in tobacco is very addictive, that's very different from smoking cannabis alone. It took me one try to quit smoking cannabis and substitute vaping. It took me many years and many attempts to quit cigs.

 

[McSheamus]

Since the nicotine in tobacco is very addictive, that's very different from smoking cannabis alone. It took me one try to quit smoking cannabis and substitute vaping. It took me many years and many attempts to quit cigs.

Tobacco is pure evil my man. Glad I got rid of it!

 

[Skyscraper]

Just smoked for a week on my Spring Break. Now that my lungs and cardiovascular system have re-tuned themself to being smoke free I can't really handle it anymore. The first night wasn't bad, but the subsequent highs were almost regrettable. It takes me more herb to get to a nice high but I also notice being "smoked out".

Now that I've been vaping for a while I can tell a difference between that punch you get when taking a hit of smoke and the high that comes on later. Read some interesting theory from @luchiano about the role of adrenaline in the high. That could be a factor in why the smoking high peaks so fast and quick, where as the more pure cannabis vaporr is a sustained effect that takes 10 minutes to come on in full.

 

[Mrmrmrmr]

Why not go ahead start fucking combustion ? Instead of smoking tonight start cleaning that bong ! Trust me (or us ) the sooner you stop the better.
And you made a great choice with the LSV. I recently got one again and I'm sure as he'll not letting go of it anytime soon

 

[Kief]

When I quit smoking and started vaping, I'd been smoking mj (on a very regular basis) for far longer than you've been alive, and all I got was the vague feeling that something was missing, effect wise. I quickly discovered that most of what was missing could be supplied by vaping at higher temps, and the rest of the smoke effects were negative (including the effect of smoke hitting my throat and lungs) and good riddance.

@max put this into words perfectly ^ . "Something was missing", instead of withdrawal symptoms... and that goes away in as little as 3 days, some take a little longer. @Yehawwielon, as long as you want to give up the smoke and have your mind made up (it sounds like you do), it's easy. It's nothing like quitting cigarettes.

 

[JiggyJack]

I first started vaping with the VaporGenie and would go back and forth between that and combusting for a while. VG just takes so much longer than my old one hitter bat. Eventually though combusting started to feel like licking an ashtray and at this point if there was only enough weed left in the world for one last session and there were no vaporizers around, I'd pass.

 

[Yehawwielon]

Thanks for all the replies. Fortunately I don't smoke tobacco, I used to a few years ago but I gave that shit up and will never go back.

These are all good responses but I think ONCloud8 probably said it best. After smoking for so long I'm pretty sure my body is used to all the junk that you get when combusting. I'm not too worried though. If there is a bit of an adjustment period I guess that's just the price I pay for switching to a healthier and more efficient method of cannabis consumption.

 

[CarolKing]

This will be one of the best things you can do for your health, to be combustion free. Most of us have all been through the transition phase. I don't feel like I went through withdrawal, it was a transition. I had to resist the urge to combust but I wasn't agitated or feeling sick. It takes 2 to 3 weeks, eventually the smell of combusting cannabis will not appeal to you any longer. Your brain won't register the smoke along with the process of vaporizing any longer.

You will notice that you will be able to smell and taste things better. You won't have that combusting smell in your nose. Your clothes and hair won't be absorbing the smells from the smoke. You will have a cleaner feel.

It's been over 2+ years since I said I needed to Fuckcombustion. I didn't smoke cigs so I didn't have that to deal with. You will notice how much you save on cannabis. You will be able to afford some top shelf and some more vaporizing accessories.

Good luck in your quest to be combustion free.

EDIT
You can use various water tools with your vaporizers. There's all kinds of set ups. Look under Glass. Folks love showing off their units with plenty of pics.

 

[hafalump]

I had a cold this summer, two months later I was still hacking, nasty gurgling lungs.
The wife insited I go see yhe doc, I suggest an early bday present. three days later, no cough.
Never needed an adjustment period, and the wife is happy, no more ash tray, etc.
A true win win. Had to smoke the other week and ok as a joint, horrible in a bowl,
and feeling negative effects in the am.

 

[lovesick alien]

For me it was exactly withdrawal, of tobacco. I like to say detox, but withdrawal was the word used here...
I was overdoing it also when smoking. The first weeks vaping I did a significant amount less, which also contributed to the detox effects in a way.

I also still have the feeling of missing something. But like you said, higher temps resolve that.

This is a very interesting thread. A little about me: 59 years old. Smoked cigs for the best part of 26 years before quitting 20 years ago last New Years. Smoker of Mary Jane and her friends for the best part of the last 45 years. Just switched to my Firefly (first vaporizer) after being an exclusive smoker. I think that what some people may be 'missing' is the act of smoking, which I think is the only thing addictive about MJ - and it's not a physical addiction so much as muscle memory, if you will.

I'm looking forward to losing the smoker's cough I sometimes got during periods of extended usage (or particularly potent blends - LOL)

Cheers,

Nick in Florida

 

[kerkdream]

Great thread. When I gave up I pretty much immediately realised that the MJ habit i had (going outside every hour or so to have a little rizla sized J) was mainly because of tobacco. When i gave up combustion I just had to work thru the withdrawal pangs, there was no easy solutions for me, other than immersing myself in my first ever vape. The ritual (habit) is different but I soon got used to it and realised how much i had been missing out on. My old way of doing things was doing virtually nothing for me other than wasting my money, making me smell, causing harm inside and making me cold (to go outside).

Good luck! Keep at it.

 

[CarolKing]

I think that's an important key to the smoking habit you have a certain ritual that you go through and we all are creatures of habit. Some of us gave up the little pipe that we had used for years on end. Also having to worry about the scent that smoking cannabis creates. You won't miss that. But your brain still correlates the smoking smell with using cannabis and the feeling it provides.

You will develop a different ritual and different habits that will be healthier for you in the long term. @Yehawwielon I hope you are enjoying your new vaporizer. A definite change for the better.

Good times and Fuck You to combustion.

 

[Yehawwielon]

I think that's an important key to the smoking habit you have a certain ritual that you go through and we all are creatures of habit. Some of us gave up the little pipe that we had used for years on end. Also having to worry about the scent that smoking cannabis creates. You won't miss that. But your brain still correlates the smoking smell with using cannabis and the feeling it provides.

You will develop a different ritual and different habits that will be healthier for you in the long term. @Yehawwielon I hope you are enjoying your new vaporizer. A definite change for the better.

Good times and Fuck You to combustion.

Hey, thanks for responding and yes my new vape is working very well. Quitting combustion hasn't been too bad, a bit of an adjustment maybe but no where close to being as hard as even a T-break. I'm still trying to figure out what temperature works best but of course that takes a bit of time. Anyways, I'm glad to be giving up combustion and I'm looking forward to seeing where my health is after a month of no smoking.

 

[C No Ego]

Hey everyone, I've been lurking on this forum for some time and asked a few questions as of late too. Thanks to the help I received here I've been able to choose my first vape (LSV) which should be here tomorrow as long as the fed ex website isn't lying to me. Anyway, during my time on here and other forums I've seen multiple mentions of what I can only call combustion withdrawl. Basically, it seems like certain people really have a hard time getting used to vaping. Now I've vaped plenty before and unlike some of these posters, I've never had an issue with vaping and getting baked. That said though, I've always been really into bongs and bong rips and I'm just wondering if combustion withdrawl isn't gonna be a bit of a problem for me. I'm 21 and I've been smoking for a long time. I'm not gonna say exactly when I started for fear of breaking a forum rule, but rest assured that its been quite a while. More than enough time for me to get used to and, I must admit, comfortable with combustion.

Up until recently I didn't give a fuck about the effects of smoking but recently I've realized I shouldn't ignore this any longer. No matter how hard combustion withdrawl proves I am fully committed to fighting through it. However, what I'm wondering is if there's anything I can do that will help me avoid feeling the worst parts of this. I realize its possible that only some people experience this and I'll be completely fine. My goal right now is to make sure the beginning of my vaping career is a happy occasion and not me wishing I could go back to nasty ass combustion for the next month. Any suggestions, stories or feedback is appreciated.

I'm about to go load up my bong for my final night of combustion. Wooooo!

a few tips.. use a higher heat setting on your vape at first to transition out of smoking. the compounds that smoking releases in the cannabis plant are well, all of them that do not succumb/die from the heat created. when you vaporize herb the temperature regulates what compounds release from the fibers of the plant, the lower the heat the less compounds agitate to a vapor state and the more the heat the more the compounds.

the low heat compounds are thc and the high heat ones are cbd.

after you adjust to high heat vaping( water tools help for high heat vaping) go back down to the lowest heat setting possible and adjust your vaping to that type of heat especially during the daytime.
when you adjust to the lower heat you will be grabbing the vape just for the flavor- it is flavor highway and every strain is new to you. congrats!

 

[Joel W.]

The first month was hard for me switching over from almost 30 years of herb combustion to dabbing due to the lack of "green hit" flavor but the meds are so much more effective dabbing

I went from smoking a hit or two of herb about every 15-30 min to dabbing about every 2 hrs or so. I would buy an 1/8 just to smell before dabbing and sometimes just add a small micro chunk for flavor.

Now, I am starting to like the flavor of the dabs and not so much the "green hit" taste of herb. Wierd.

 

[6 to 9]

It needn't be a cold turkey routine. I like the Vape Critic's point that you can still combust once in a while.

Once you make the transition to more vaping you'll be like the rest of us--wanting to bring friends and family into the fold.

 

[hoptimum]

Hey everyone, I've been lurking on this forum for some time and asked a few questions as of late too. Thanks to the help I received here I've been able to choose my first vape (LSV) which should be here tomorrow as long as the fed ex website isn't lying to me. Anyway, during my time on here and other forums I've seen multiple mentions of what I can only call combustion withdrawl. Basically, it seems like certain people really have a hard time getting used to vaping. Now I've vaped plenty before and unlike some of these posters, I've never had an issue with vaping and getting baked. That said though, I've always been really into bongs and bong rips and I'm just wondering if combustion withdrawl isn't gonna be a bit of a problem for me. I'm 21 and I've been smoking for a long time. I'm not gonna say exactly when I started for fear of breaking a forum rule, but rest assured that its been quite a while. More than enough time for me to get used to and, I must admit, comfortable with combustion.

Up until recently I didn't give a fuck about the effects of smoking but recently I've realized I shouldn't ignore this any longer. No matter how hard combustion withdrawl proves I am fully committed to fighting through it. However, what I'm wondering is if there's anything I can do that will help me avoid feeling the worst parts of this. I realize its possible that only some people experience this and I'll be completely fine. My goal right now is to make sure the beginning of my vaping career is a happy occasion and not me wishing I could go back to nasty ass combustion for the next month. Any suggestions, stories or feedback is appreciated.

I'm about to go load up my bong for my final night of combustion. Wooooo!

I smoked cannabis for 40 years, and I don't know anything about "combustion withdrawal." As soon as I figured out how to use a vaporizer, combustion has never appealed to me.