Combustion Thread

[biojuggernaut]

Honestly, I could create a new membership on TC, skunkmag, or any of the other countless hundreds of decent combustion forums to get my information but I would much rather trust the decent folk here at FC. I feel like and know all too well that combustion cretins are just drug addicts scraping resin in between pay checks because I was there before my first pd lowered my usage.

I still combust to this day occasionally and would like to know what techniques some of the veteran smokers here hold true.

Snappers or tappers?
Can there ever be too much diffusion? (Ex. dual honey comb perc)
What Flame sources are appropriate.
Are they any techniques to incorporate vaporization into combustion? Is it worth it?
etc, etc, etc. . .

 

[Nycdeisel]

I dont really smoke anymore, but Im very up on it, own a bunch a glass, etc

Dont know what tappers are, I held faithful to packing snaps.

Too much diffusion can sometimes be accompanied by other things like too much drag, so yes, in a way there can be, but usually smokers want more diffusion because A. smoke is HOT and needs a lot of cooling and B. the extra water and diffusion takes away taste but smokers dont care much about that.

flame sources: beeline or similar hempwick, glow rods(glass wands/rods), Hakko soldering irons and teh Herb Iron.

I didnt quite get that last question, can you elaborate please?

 

[crawdad]

i dont combust often on purpose but found a candle flame (bic lighter, hempwick) to be the best as it allows for a more slow burn or uh...less gets burnt at once which lessens the harshness on each hit. i just have a simple bubbler, but would prefer a lot more diffusion.

if i vape my abv and it does not get too close to black then i retain it for combusting, thats about all i combust for, just to get the rest out.

 

[VWFringe]

peripherally related:
i was so amazed when i read yesterday that resin from combusting has less than ten percent of the THC you'd find in the plant material, that explains why it was never stoney...it's just made up of tar. I guess I can stop wondering how to filter pipe resin to get hash oil, ain't gonna happen.

 

[tdavie]

I feel like and know all too well that combustion cretins are just drug addicts scraping resin in between pay checks because I was there before my first pd lowered my usage.

I still combust to this day occasionally and would like to know what techniques some of the veteran smokers here hold true.

Snappers or tappers?
Can there ever be too much diffusion? (Ex. dual honey comb perc)
What Flame sources are appropriate.
Are they any techniques to incorporate vaporization into combustion? Is it worth it?
etc, etc, etc. . .

Combustion cretins? Eh, I've actually switched more to combustion (bong )now than in the past when it was vaping 100%, but....okay It simply has more of an effect in reducing pain from arthritis, although vaping is longer lasting (I use both methods still).

I don't know what snapping and tapping are; currently I load no more in a bowl than I can clear on one inhale, and that's about 0-2-0.25g. Inhale and then pull the slide (?) to clear the bong.

Currently using a 2 foot double 12 arm tree perc with a 6 slit downstem and a 6 arm tree ashcatcher. Always add ice, 5-6 cubes.

Flame source? I use a 1 flame torch lighter. Flicky Bic's are the stone age; always managed to burn myself, the flame would go out, and it would take longer to hit the bowl. With a torch lighter it's consistent and fast; you can finish a bowl in seconds and become very medicated.

Too much diffusion? I say as much as possible unless you think it's introducing drag, reducing the high or lowering the taste.

I've got a 12 slit inline ashcatcher and that's nice; I'd like to pick up a bong with a built in one. I've also seen a few pieces with triple inlines and am curious about those as well.

I did try the SSV through the bong and was underimpressed; I got vapor and became very buzzed, but without taste.

Tom

 

[jeffp]

IMO the most enjoyable coolest and most powerful way to combust is with a Gravity Vortex bong.

 

[VWFringe]

jeffp,
does the smoke get stale in a gravity bong? I've always been sensitive to stale smoke (shudder), so bong hits were my fav, but I had to be quick about it with a long tube (and breath out completely before carb'ing it).

i saw a gravity vortex 1 gram hit on youtube and it just seemed like the smoke was left in there for a long assed time...?

 

[jeffp]

Don't really know how to answer that except to say that the smoke from the GV is as close to clean moist vapor as I've ever experienced. The smoke is active, it's not dormant, there's a waterfall effect happening before the inhalation. If that's what you're after I would give it a go.

 

[charliedontsurf]

Combustion for me is what maybe happens at the end of a concentrate bowl if your vaporizer can't finish the job properly. A good one can leave a dessicated lump that turns to powder when agitated, while never achieving combustion. Conbustion, for herbal especially, tastes someone burnt my toast. It's not as effective and only the first hit has half a chance of tasting halfway decent, not accounting for halving/quartering/snappers/individual bowls.

It seems like a barbaric and disadvantageous way to imbibe a substance - like picking barley grain and chewing on it instead of grinding it into flour and baking bread. Sure you're still eating, but it's rough and nasty and you get only a portion of what the grain has to offer. Vaping out of the VXC might just be as big an advancement as brewing beer from that grain! Vaporization is an absurdly simple principle and there are some instances of it being used throughout history (shisha hookahs, Scythian tent ceremonies, but I think it really should of superceded smoking years and years ago.

A nice J or a nice bong can really take the edge off combustion though, and I do enjoy it on the odd occasion, just to be fair. Proper, delicate lighter control is essential. I've actually found lighting bowls with the LSV to be surprisingly unflavorful.

 

[biojuggernaut]

snappers v tapper refers to whether or not the bowl is a snap or if you pack a fatty and chill on it for awhile

Is it bad to use ice with smoke?

Should one ever vaporize using hemp wic or is that still "combustion" since you are inhaling some bi-products.

Do you guys prefer fatting bowls, or tall bowls that help provide more vaporization. What kinda screen do you use?

What are your processes of cleaning?

YES it is one of the main reasons why I switched to vaporizing since the resin has such a low quality of thc. It just goes to show you which method is more effective! I also like to coat some fatty green bowls with some golden AVB. I rationalize it as a dampener between the flame and the good stuff.





**Anybody smoke anything else LEGAL!!! here besides weed?

 

[Survivalism]

When you vape i would vape as hot as you can get it, if you dont have dark brown avb you are not getting the other cannabinoids that are released when smoked and for actual medicating these are what you want, not thc itself IMO.

You might want to also look into BHO with a good oil vape setup, if you are trying to get very medicated very fast this is the way to do it.

 

[crawdad]

ya i tend to vape pretty hot unless i want to be "wired" (thats the general effect on me, most of the time). very low temp vaping (tastes awesome) i do almost always but usually end the bowl with more heat so i get the rest out.

 

[biojuggernaut]

How do you guys feels about longer headies as opposed to fat bowl pieces. What about the diffussion holes some glassblowers offer in there heady tops? Anyone huff the un-filter'd smoke that shoots out of the bowl when you put it pack into the gong joint


. . . then i exhale the whole rip. #fiend status

 

[crawdad]

yep, pretty much

 

[SmokingElectricity]

i took a hit off a blunt tonight to be "courteous" and it was the nastiest shit ever....

haven't actually combusted in over a year and i don't think i ever will again.

 

[SD_haze]

its hard not to come off pretentious and whatnot turning down smoking because you prefer to vaporize, but at the end of the day do what you know is best

 

[SmokingElectricity]

its hard not to come off pretentious and whatnot turning down smoking because you prefer to vaporize, but at the end of the day do what you know is best

i did on the other hand send him home with my old vapor noble so possibly i made a convert tonight.

 

[aesthyrian]

its hard not to come off pretentious and whatnot turning down smoking because you prefer to vaporize, but at the end of the day do what you know is best

You'll find that with anything though. I don't drink and other people can't understand or handle that fact, a lot of people are the same way when I politely say that I do not eat any animal products. Doesn't matter how you say it, people will get defensive about anything it seems. Just do what you know is right and smart, and let the others be ignorant if they choose to do so.

I'm only lucky because all of my friends that get high prefer vapor, since none of us are actually stupid enough to smoke anything, be it crack, tobacco, or weed.

 

[Nycdeisel]

But Smoking Electricity, blunts are the nastiest way to smoke the herb! at least have some courtesy and use a joint, or glass pipe.

I hate ice with smoke, I find all the frost just kind of burns my throat and adds to the harshness of the smoke

Using a hemp wick with a flame is still smoking, although I dont believe anyone should smoke using straight lighters. Hemp wicks at the least, or glass rods are better, but require a torch.

I prefer Ice Pinch style bowls, I like bowls that are narrow and shallow, very small bowls overall basically. They are their own screen, and cleaning is fairly simple, alcohol scrub with q tip or soak in Grunge Off.

The smoke that comes directly off of a smoldering bowl smells(or leaves a stronger odor) more then what you exhale, but its usually such a small amount that trying to inhale it is mostly pointless.
I try to avoid this smoke from ever being created, as its wasted in an already incredibly inefficient method, plus it just adds to the burden of lingering smoke/smokey smell.

 

[jeffp]

In the past I would buy $10 little bags of "regs" for my friends who come by who like to smoke; there's no way I was going to waste the good shit on blunts. It is nasty any way you slice it. Ever notice how these blunt rollers put a makeshift "filter" at the mouthpiece end? They say it keeps the mouthpiece end open or something like that.
I see people at the grocery store buying, if not blunt wraps, cigars - they are obviously not cigar smokers - and I know they empty out the tobacco or most of the tobacco to make their
party jumbo cigarettes.

There is a bad situation in my building but not on my floor but I'm using it as an opportunity to prohibit smoking. Two floors above me there's this correction officer or ex correction officer who has it in for a pot smoking couple on the floor below him. He's called the police a few times, put up flyers in the building about the marijuana menace permeating throughout the building, etc. I am off the radar. No one on my floor cares but I want to stay off the radar so I have imposed a vape only policy here.

 

[Nycdeisel]

It sounds like a fine policy, then!

tobacco is gross IMO, and smoking it in the nastiest form, cigar or blunt wraps, and then adding the good green herb to it, should be a sin

 

[jeffp]

They mix weed with tobacco in their blunts to "keep it burning evenly" - disgusting.
It's crude and neanderthal and I am definitely not a vapor snob.
I dislike when my SSFG bong gets dirtied up when someone wants to take a flame hit from it.
Yes, the head is different from vaping - it's super strong and immediate and that's kind of cool -
but the no smoking policy stands.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

always use my herb iron and incredibowls for combustion

 

[SVuser]

@ Bob Loblaw:How does the herb iron compare to "bee line" for combustion? taste/temperature etc?

 

[notmyrealUSERname]

^ I always found that the beeline added flavour and because of that I only ever used the small bit of it that I had.

Oth, The herb iron doesn't add any flavour, heats up real quick, and even has an actual vaporizer attachment! My hi has been relegated to hard pressed concentrate duty though. I just place a pebble directly on the ceramic and balance it under my curve which gathers all the goodness for me! It like bottle tokes without needing a nasty cig. I never really liked the herb iron for lighting bowls cause sometimes your stuff will stick to the ceramic and it disturbs the bowl pack so you may not get the hit you wanted/expected.

I prefer to light bowls with a small torch held a few inches away and I only just briefly touch it with the flame in order to get a cherry going, the bong keeps it lit till the snap is finished.