Coconut Oil, Folks ( Highest Saturated Fat Content )

[Seaniscoolikeice]

UPDATE: THIS THREADS TITLE SHOULD READ (Highest Saturated Fat Content)

So, we all know that when cooking with trees, your active ingredient is absorbed into the fats of either your butter, oil, or mix your using. What some people are not aware of is the large range of different saturated fat percentages that exist amongst different oils and butter. If you looking for the highest saturated fat content (highest transfusion rate), your going to want to work with coconut oil. This will come in a solid state unlike many oils due to the high fat content. Of course, this will liquify once the heating process begins. If your not fond of coconut, you next best bet, oil wise, is peanut oil. While second best, it has a significantly lower level for fat content when compared to coconut oil. Also, the coconut oil's coconutty taste helps mask any "earthy" flavor that might make it's way into your goodies. Happy cooking!

 

[bleak]

+1, coconut oil is the best medium for making edibles.

 

[GatorJC]

Thanks for sharing, Sean. I had no idea. Last time I made edibles was with veggie oil. It's a shame to think I was essentially wasting THC with it.

 

[zymos]

All vegetable oils have the same fat content- 100%. Peanut oil certainly does not contain any less fat than coconut oil.

Butter does have a small amount of water and protein, so is only 80-85% fat.

 

[Seaniscoolikeice]

+1, coconut oil is the best medium for making edibles.

+1 for being from Amsterdam. Thanks Bleak

All vegetable oils have the same fat content- 100%. Peanut oil certainly does not contain any less fat than coconut oil.

Butter does have a small amount of water and protein, so is only 80-85% fat.

Zymos, I apologize, let me be more specific. There is a variation in saturated fat content between oils.

See this link : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coconut_oil

Half way down the page you can view a chart that compares different oils (Not hydrogenated) and their different fat levels, including saturated. Also, it appears that peanut oil has some competition for second as Palm and and cottonseed oil are heavy hitters in the saturated arena.

Thanks for sharing, Sean. I had no idea. Last time I made edibles was with veggie oil. It's a shame to think I was essentially wasting THC with it.

No worries, Gator. Think of it this way, if you enjoyed your edibles last time, your reeeeeally going to enjoy them now. (Olive oil 14% saturated fat compared to coconuts 86%) Try out the coconut oil and let me know what you think. I'm fairly sure you'll be pleased. Ill post some recipes the wife and I have had luck with.

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[max]

+1, coconut oil is the best medium for making edibles.

Virgin (unrefined) or expeller pressed (for elimination of coconut taste and smell) coconut oil is the BEST oil for cooking, hands down. The only drawback is that it's a solid until the temp reaches 76 degrees or so. Mixing with sesame seed oil solves that, but it's not an issue for cooking. It's even better than olive oil. All vegetable oils oxidize and create free radicals. Coconut oil does not. Yes it's saturated fat, but the truth is that we need saturated fat, and coconut oil is heart healthy. Saturated fats make up at least half of our cell membranes, and there are other reasons why the body needs good quality saturated fats.

"Coconut oil is made up of medium-chain fatty acids (MCFA’s). Two-thirds of the saturated fat in coconut oil is a medium-chain saturated fat. This important fact deserves clarification as MCFA’s actually helps us to lose weight, lower cholesterol, improve diabetic conditions and reduce the risk of heart disease.
One of the most outstanding benefits of consuming MCFA’s is that they do not require the liver and gallbladder to digest and emulsify them. This means instant energy and increased thermogenesis (increased metabolic rate in the body) which leads to more heat production as well as improved circulation. For anyone with impaired fat digestion or a removed gallbladder, coconut oil is the only oil to consume as it is very easily digested.
MCFA’s are also known for having antimicrobial and anti-fungal properties, so they are beneficial to our immune system. In addition, coconut oil assists people with under-active thyroids by increasing the metabolic rate of the body and creating more energy." http://www.naturalnews.com/022313.html

Google 'Mary Enig' and you'll find lots of good info by one of the world's best experts on lipids. The proof that coconut oil is healthy, despite what the seed oil companies would have you believe, is out there and available.

 

[zymos]

Why is a highly saturated fat better for making edibles?

 

[max]

Why is a highly saturated fat better for making edibles?

Again, coconut oil can't be beat for cooking, edibles or otherwise. If you don't want the taste (doesn't bother me at all), just use expeller pressed. Granted you can't buy good coconut oil in the grocery store, but it is available. Peanut oil has more saturated fat than a lot of vegetable oils, and no trans fat, but is best for frying.

 

[zymos]

But where does the claim that it is better at making marijuana edibles than other oils come from?

Not even trying to get into a debate about saturated fats and health, just curious in the context of this thread.

 

[Seaniscoolikeice]

But where does the claim that it is better at making marijuana edibles than other oils come from?

Not even trying to get into a debate about saturated fats and health, just curious in the context of this thread.

Zymos, THC is absorbed into the saturated fat of the oil, therefore a higher saturated fat content would equal a higher transfusion rate of the THC from the plant to the said oil. This will lead to a more potent edible. Please feel free to test these statements and let us know what your experience is.

 

[zymos]

You are making an assumption here that might not be true-

that using other fats is leaving behind THC that would be dissolved if coconut oil were used instead.

. Keep in mind we are talking about a few milligrams of THC being dissolved in several grams of oil- in other words, the solvent is in vast excess to what is being dissolved in it.
Even if THC were less soluble in some oils than others, there should still be more than enough oil present to dissolve it all.

I do like coconut oil for capsules, and sometimes for general cooking cause of the taste. Makes good soap too....

 

[SnidelyWhiplash]

Cocoa butter has the longest shelf-life and a very high saturation point - no matter how much oil is extracted in it, it remains solid when cooled. Nothing escapes. My 2 cents. But, good quality is not cheap.

 

[luchiano]

Coconut oil is good for a quicker absorption but if you want a whole body experience for health and getting high in the long term you want monounsaturated, polyunsaturated, and saturated fat because these fats effect different parts of the body. The mono goes to the lymphatic system which means it will help your immune system and cannabinoids have been shown to lower pain causing substances in the immune system. Poly goes to the muscles and give energy so you won't be tired or if it's dark and you have carbs it will help your body relax due to poly absorbing a lot of oxygen and getting the body going. Saturated fats go to the organs and help make hormones. MCT saturated fats are a mix of going to the organs a little but they mostly go to the muscles to be used as a quick source of energy compared to the other fats. All these fats do the same thing in small amounts but they specialize in the things I mentioned.

The real secret is eating these fats with something that will slow down their absorption such as soluble fiber(saturated fat sauted with some spinach or another green leafy vegetable) or eating foods rich in these fats(mono and poly with some saturated) like nuts and seeds or avocado that has other substances that help there absorption to be slow and water soluble(protein & lecithin) and lipase enzymes which help break down fat(raw avocado). Also minerals which help break down the fat like niacin and vitamin b6(green leafy vegetables). Remember the smaller the oils are broken down the more gets absorbed as well as used by the body which means more of an effect off of very little.

What this means is instead of making oil ahead of time, that can be dangerous if not done and stored properly, you just add some herb or concentrate to your food as a taste enhancer except you fell this "taste".

 

[Nycdeisel]

We need healthy fats, and organic virgin coconut oil is part of a healthy diet.

I for one LOVE LOVE LOVE coconut oil. I use it for so many things, like as the only skin moisturizer i will use, its good for open wounds of all sorts, its great for making your own toothpaste(mine consists of organic virgin coconut oil, premium aluminum free baking soda from the brand Bobs Red Mill, and himalayan pink salt. this works amazing as a toothpaste), and SO many other things. The health benefits are astounding as well!

Plus, and of course I made some canna coconut oil which I sometimes call my "green oil"
Its amazing stuff, not only is it great to eat(and doesnt upset my stomach like butter does), but it can be easily applied topically for pains!

Heres a little article with 160 different uses for coconut oil! http://www.riseearth.com/2012/06/160-uses-for-coconut-oil.html#.T_10G5lS-qY.facebook

 

[bleak]

of course I made some canna coconut oil which I sometimes call my "green oil" Its amazing stuff, not only is it great to eat(and doesnt upset my stomach like butter does), but it can be easily applied topically for pains!

I also use the name "green oil", or "enhanced coconut oil"

Have you tried using the green oil as a moisturiser/skin treatment? Coconut oil is already the greatest skin moisturiser on earth, and it works even better with some added cannabinoids (doesn't everything??)


I rub a SMALL amount of green oil on my face and neck and leave it to absorb, 1 or 2 times a day. Have been doing this for over a year. It started smoothing out my skin noticeably after a few months (I have some acne scars which are almost gone now!). Honestly, green coconut oil has improved the long-term condition of my skin. My face looks and feels softer/smoother in general, even when I stop using the oil for a few weeks (like on holidays)

 

[Nycdeisel]

I have not used very much of the green oil on my skin, though when i made it I used some on my ankle(which i have lasting issues with, i kinda got a chunk of cartilage missing on my talus bone. yea, ouch for real.) That plus eating it made it feel a lot better but i dont have too much oil right now, i am going to use a very small amount on my skin. I have skin issues though , all over my arms and stuff, so I use the regular plain coconut oil there all the time. However, i had a lot of acne when i was younger and the scars stayed for a long time, until i started actually using a pure organic soap whos first and main ingredient was.... coconut oil! the scars are very faint now and are almost completely gone. It is so awesome. I think I will use some plain or green oil on my face more regularly now, after reading your comment, to speed up the healing!

Btw that soap I mentioned, is just Dr Bronners hemp castile liquid soap. i use it for so many things. its truly amazing. I even used it to do something I NEVER thought i would be able to do, and that is clean my glass(used for vaporbonging) with non toxic chemicals. And after trying so many things, I decided to put a lot of the soap in alone with some hot water and shake it up for a few minutes and rinse out. I was stunned. I never ever thought i would be able to escape using, and handling something toxic(Simple Green, Grunge Off, Iso alcohol) to clean the vapor residue.

 

[Seaniscoolikeice]

Great contributions from everyone. I love how this went from cooking to health to topical applications. Good stuff....

 

[bigtvapes]

I tried a cold infusion method with cannola oil. Hope I didn't make a mistake :-(

 

[neve13]

yes coconut oil is where it's at. Whole Foods has a great selection. I recently made some gourmet truffles from 5 months worth of ABV. quite potent indeed...and damn tasty to boot!

 

[max]

I tried a cold infusion method with cannola oil. Hope I didn't make a mistake :-(

Well, not a serious one, but Canola oil is very overrated. Here's a quote from a newsletter I get-

"About 30% of canola oil is made up of polyunsaturated fats, very fragile fatty acids that are easily damaged by high heat processing, which is the processing method of virtually all "commercial" forms of canola oil.

Sure, it's made up of a large portion of heat-resistant monounsaturates, but that still leaves 30% of the oil as denatured, processed crap.
And you know what happens when fragile polyunsaturates are heated to high temperatures? That's right, they get all flustered and turn to trans fats, the absolute WORST possible thing you can put in your body, period.

Trans-fats have been conclusively linked to a million and one diseases and disorders, including heart disease and cancer. And oh yeah, their toxicity also has been shown to lead to weight gain while making weight loss harder.

For cooking, nothing beats unrefined, organic coconut oil. Coconut oil is high in stable saturated fats, particularly the healthful medium chain triglyceride group (MCTs)."

And make no mistake. We need saturated fat, and plant derived is the best.

 

[Jurassic]

Definitely agree with Max's post just above. And also have done much research on this and wanted to add my source of coconut oil, which I feel is the best especially for the cost. Definitely read up on it, not all coconut oils are created equally.

http://www.coconutoil-online.com/

 

[bleak]

Also agreeing with Max's post. Canola oil, sunflower oil and most of the refined seed-based oils are just nasty, they do bad things to your body. I try to use coconut oil for most things. Olive oil and almond oil are also 'good oils', but coconut is king IMO

 

[Nycdeisel]

coconut oil FTW!

 

[Ratm22]

Ack ANTS! They are all over my coconut oil. Luckily the oil was solid and a good rinse got rid of all the ants. Just odd that they went straight for the oil and don't attack anything else.

I made a double batch of cookies last night and I always use a few tablespoons of coconut oil in the ABV extract. I like to use all sorts of veggie oils as long as they are not hydrogenated. I am always scared to use straight coconut as it is so powerful.

 

[Nycdeisel]

Straight coconut oil to cook it into instead of butter/other oils works great. You could maybe even use less herb in it and get more out of it.