Chest pains since only vaporizing, anyone?

[cosimo]

Hello!
I'm wondering if anyone has had chest pains or weird sensations in their chest, kind of feeling it's the heart or left lung. I've ben having some weird sensations (a mix of pain, tickles, and jsut something wierd going on there) since I stopped combusting and started only using the vaporizer. I can't filter it with a bong but I take sips of water every puff i can... that helped to substantially reduce coughing. I have a couple of friends who have used my vaporizer the same amount as I have, but they have no similar symptoms

I already searched and found no related threads. If it has been discussed else where, please be so knid and show me where. if it hasn't, I'd really appreciate any thoughts on the matter. I will go to the doctor eventually, but Im hoping it's a normal symptom from the transition.

BTW, today I rode my bike for 60 minutes straight at full speed under really hot sun, and felt nothing in that area, so im not even sure its a lung or heart problem. in fact, i was surprised to see today how not ired i was after that ride. I had not ridden in about 6 months.

So, thanks in advance for any input you can provide.

 

[vapirtoo]

Wow, do we all do this dumb shit? "I think that my heart or lungs might be compromised, so I do a self check by pushing my cardio to the max, just to check things out!? "
I'm unashamedly right there with you, but really, You should have a doctor check it out just to be smart?
Most likely it is just your body reacting to the lack of toxins which should eventually calm down on its own; but hey I'm no doctor so my real advice is to have a doctor check it out. Oh yeah, great ride, 60 min. from out of nowhere? Impressive

 

[sickmanfraud]

@cosimo since you are not getting a lot of replies let me chime in.

Sometimes when I vape I can get into a coughing "fit" and I have found that sometimes I get some acid reflux from the coughing.

If your discomfort is coming only from vaping I would suggest that you try tums or rolaids and see if that helps the pain. If the antacids help you can probably assume that your situation is gastric vs. cardiac.

Still worth seeing a doctor to be sure.

 

[cosimo]

Wow, do we all do this dumb shit? "I think that my heart or lungs might be compromised, so I do a self check by pushing my cardio to the max, just to check things out!? "
I'm unashamedly right there with you, but really, You should have a doctor check it out just to be smart?
Most likely it is just your body reacting to the lack of toxins which should eventually calm down on its own; but hey I'm no doctor so my real advice is to have a doctor check it out. Oh yeah, great ride, 60 min. from out of nowhere? Impressive

oh, no, i didn't ride my bike to check things out. Public transport here sucks soooo much and i really needed to do an errand quickly so i just dusted off my bike and went ahead. I did use the bike expecting to feel something...quite happy I didn't even feel out of breath.
Right now I don't have the money for a doctor's appointment but as soon as september enters I shoudl be able to.

I really hope it's just toxins. Or even a muscular thing. I do notice that since i've been vaporizing, y can sleep in new possitions... maybe i'm sleeping more on my left side taht i used to.

thanks for the input!

@cosimo since you are not getting a lot of replies let me chime in.

Sometimes when I vape I can get into a coughing "fit" and I have found that sometimes I get some acid reflux from the coughing.

If your discomfort is coming only from vaping I would suggest that you try tums or rolaids and see if that helps the pain. If the antacids help you can probably assume that your situation is gastric vs. cardiac.

Still worth seeing a doctor to be sure.

hmmmm... will check for this, thanks! I was thinkging that since i drink som much water while vaporizing, that maybe one the initial coughs made water enter my left lung or something like that and it hasn't clear out yet. If that is posible, maybe some thing similar could have happened with a little relfux episode, but i would remmeber.. that taste of acid reflux is sooo nasty.

 

[CarolKing]

Some folks feel a need to hold in a hit as long as possible and take the hardest hit they can. Over doing it. Then get into a coughing fit. To get medicated we don’t need to do that.

My brother always tries to take the biggest hit possible, and trying to hold it in. Then he starts coughing almost throwing up. I just shake my head because I’ve told him he’s over doing. My brothers been doing it this way since he was in his 20s and he’s 70 now. He still smokes a little pipe. I gave him a vaporizer to use but he liked his little pipe. He’s set in his ways. At my house he uses a vaporizer because I don’t want all the smoke around. He’s never mentioned that using cannabis with a vaporizer ever caused him any problems.

If something doesn’t feel right for you, don’t do it. You could try edibles. I’m no doctor so my suggestion is to go to your family physician. You cant mess around if you are having lung or heart pain.

 

[invertedisdead]

Some folks feel a need to hold in a hit as long as possible and take the hardest hit they can. Over doing it. Thing get into a coughing fit. To get medicated we don’t need to do that.

And then they act like the vaporizer is the problem!

 

[Diggy Smalls]

When I first started vaping, it would give me and my friends coughing fits. There tingling in my lungs and a feeling like I'm going to never stop coughing.

The thing that helped me most was to put more distance between my throat and the heater, and also some way of filtering out the particles come flying off along with the vapor. On some vapes I use some cotton or hemp fiber filter, on most Vapes I use an empty bubbler or long glass stem with an 18mm female glass joint.

My friends used to hate vaping with me before I learned these tricks.

 

[cosimo]

I don't really cough much with my vaporizer, especially if i have a glass of water at hand to sip every 2 or three hits.
And i never go above 200 C, BUT @Diggy Smalls, you made me realize that my symptoms also began getting more noticeable since i began shortening the distance between my mouth and the heating element. Thanks!

 

[C No Ego]

Hello!
I'm wondering if anyone has had chest pains or weird sensations in their chest, kind of feeling it's the heart or left lung. I've ben having some weird sensations (a mix of pain, tickles, and jsut something wierd going on there) since I stopped combusting and started only using the vaporizer. I can't filter it with a bong but I take sips of water every puff i can... that helped to substantially reduce coughing. I have a couple of friends who have used my vaporizer the same amount as I have, but they have no similar symptoms

I already searched and found no related threads. If it has been discussed else where, please be so knid and show me where. if it hasn't, I'd really appreciate any thoughts on the matter. I will go to the doctor eventually, but Im hoping it's a normal symptom from the transition.

BTW, today I rode my bike for 60 minutes straight at full speed under really hot sun, and felt nothing in that area, so im not even sure its a lung or heart problem. in fact, i was surprised to see today how not ired i was after that ride. I had not ridden in about 6 months.

So, thanks in advance for any input you can provide.

as @Diggy Smalls mentioned.. a water piece will certainly help or putting distance between the hottest part of the vapor and the inhale.. particulate matter usually irritates the throat mostly so you could have something else going on... But, cannabis vapor can be irritating...

another thing= if I'm in a hurry and tend to vape to fast it is more of a harsh vapor generally. slowly drawing on the same vape can eliminate that harshness. When switching from smoking to vaping that is one of the issues because with smoking you hit it fast etc... vaping is the opposite and slower inhales are the norm for vaping..

 

[Truth Seeker]

Wow, do we all do this dumb shit? "I think that my heart or lungs might be compromised, so I do a self check by pushing my cardio to the max, just to check things out!? "
I'm unashamedly right there with you, but really, You should have a doctor check it out just to be smart?
Most likely it is just your body reacting to the lack of toxins which should eventually calm down on its own; but hey I'm no doctor so my real advice is to have a doctor check it out. Oh yeah, great ride, 60 min. from out of nowhere? Impressive

I think there's an inherent issue with vaping that causes this as I got the same problem from it....maybe it's the dryness or maybe at the temps of combustion it just doesn't happen.

But it does happen and I've tried 3 different flower vapes, plus C02 cartridges and the results are the same.
My conclusion as of now is that vaping doesn't work for me and I just bought a new vaporizer and it happened again.

Possibly it's from breathing in too deep and too many inhalations to achieve the same level of medication that 2 puffs of combustion will do.

I've spent time on this forum going through all the pros and cons and all the science and in theory I understand vaping is better or supposedly is better than combustion but this problem is too serious to give vaping a green light for myself at the present time.

Maybe 2 tokes of vaping and no more might solve the issue but 2 tokes of vape is pretty much useless as combustion is far superior when measuring the limited amount of inhalations it takes to get the job done.

Just my 2 cents and I'm very open minded and want to make vaping work but it just doesn't work for me so far. Very frustrated about this problem but take my health way too seriously to give this a green light.

 

[Truth Seeker]

And then they act like the vaporizer is the problem!

probably is the problem....lol

 

[JCat]

I think there's an inherent issue with vaping that causes this as I got the same problem from it....maybe it's the dryness or maybe at the temps of combustion it just doesn't happen.

But it does happen and I've tried 3 different flower vapes, plus C02 cartridges and the results are the same.
My conclusion as of now is that vaping doesn't work for me and I just bought a new vaporizer and it happened again.

Possibly it's from breathing in too deep and too many inhalations to achieve the same level of medication that 2 puffs of combustion will do.

I've spent time on this forum going through all the pros and cons and all the science and in theory I understand vaping is better or supposedly is better than combustion but this problem is too serious to give vaping a green light for myself at the present time.

Maybe 2 tokes of vaping and no more might solve the issue but 2 tokes of vape is pretty much useless as combustion is far superior when measuring the limited amount of inhalations it takes to get the job done.

Just my 2 cents and I'm very open minded and want to make vaping work but it just doesn't work for me so far. Very frustrated about this problem but take my health way too seriously to give this a green light.

What vaporizers have you tried and what temperatures? I get this at too high temps with concentrates (or with flower really but w/ flower I would never go to those high temps)

 

[Truth Seeker]

as @Diggy Smalls mentioned.. a water piece will certainly help or putting distance between the hottest part of the vapor and the inhale.. particulate matter usually irritates the throat mostly so you could have something else going on... But, cannabis vapor can be irritating...

another thing= if I'm in a hurry and tend to vape to fast it is more of a harsh vapor generally. slowly drawing on the same vape can eliminate that harshness. When switching from smoking to vaping that is one of the issues because with smoking you hit it fast etc... vaping is the opposite and slower inhales are the norm for vaping..

Slowly inhaling causes the problem too maybe even worse due to the deep breathing in of the vape.

This is far too serious of an issue to not recognize a serious negative about vaping irregardless of how it might be better in many ways than combustion. This is a serious issue.

 

[Truth Seeker]

What vaporizers have you tried and what temperatures? I get this at too high temps with concentrates (or with flower really but w/ flower I would never go to those high temps)

Firefly 2, Arizer and just bought the cloudious9 on sunday
Oddly I think lower temps might be problematic too due to basically breathing in plant matter that is heated.
I kind of equvilate it to breathing in paint fumes or getting into a building after it had a fire and breathing in the toxic fumes from plastics, carpets etc.

 

[Skunkport]

Just my 2 cents and I'm very open minded and want to make vaping work but it just doesn't work for me so far. Very frustrated about this problem but take my health way too seriously to give this a green light.

You're getting chest pains after you stop combusting, not after you start vaping. It's all the crap from smoking stuck in your lungs and making it's way out, I coughed like fuck for a month after switching and feel 100% better now it's all cleared.

It's absolutely scientifically proven to be far less harmful than smoking and your hypochondria doesn't beat science.

 

[invertedisdead]

probably is the problem....lol

I gave you my advice, you went a different route.

I know quite a lot of smokers, like you, who just don't like the strong THC high that comes with vaporization. But it's absolutely a fact that combustion hits deliver the least cannabinoids of any consumption method. You simply prefer a dirty high, we get this all the time on this forum. The longer you have been combusting the harder it will be for you to fully transition.

 

[Truth Seeker]

I gave you my advice, you went a different route.

I know quite a lot of smokers, like you, who just don't like the strong THC high that comes with vaporization. But it's absolutely a fact that combustion hits deliver the least cannabinoids of any consumption method. You simply prefer a dirty high, we get this all the time on this forum. The longer you have been combusting the harder it will be for you to fully transition.

The problem isn't the high it's the chest pains that come after vaping.
This is why I give vaping a shot and if the pain occurs I back off. Obviously some people get this pain and others don't. I even follow a doctor who is a cannabis expert and he preaches the superiority of vaping and limits combusting to a 2 toke method.

Scientifically (or what we little we know) vaping is superior regarding carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, tar and a whole litany of other things etc. but chest pains after minimal use of vaporizers is a problem and I'm not going to cling to anyone's theory in a legalistic fashion especially regarding my personal health.

I want to make this work! but it doesn't for me so far....should I dab? maybe I should maybe I shouldn't and maybe that is the superior route. Flower vaping does have issues and is not 100% risk free or 100% healthy by any means and anyone who disagrees would just be turning vaping into a religion in the most legalistic form.

 

[Skunkport]

I just explained your chest pains. If you want to make this work, you have to stop combusting entirely.

No religion involved, we have actual scientific papers. Claiming something despite science proving otherwise is a religious stance and that's where you're at right now, arguing with us and your own doctor.

 

[Truth Seeker]

You're getting chest pains after you stop combusting, not after you start vaping. It's all the crap from smoking stuck in your lungs and making it's way out, I coughed like fuck for a month after switching and feel 100% better now it's all cleared.

It's absolutely scientifically proven to be far less harmful than smoking and your hypochondria doesn't beat science.

I don't think it's that cut and dry and the science on the effect of the human body for long term vape usage isn't in existence. I've seen posts here where after years of Volcano use people developed problems.

The science on it's effect on the human body is not in yet, the measurements of aforementioned byproducts is available but that's just about the total rub so far.

The good doctor claims tinctures are the best but how many of us want to to be spaced out.....lol
I'm relating my personal experience to a post where the original author experienced the same problems....oddly the vape community doesn't want to recognize this as a problem that effects some people, maybe a minority of people but significant enough for it to be a problem,

 

[Skunkport]

the vape community doesn't want to recognize this as a problem that effects some people

No, I switched 4.5 months ago so I do recognize it as a problem which affected me.

Difference is, I researched the effects of quitting smoking and could see that they matched perfectly to my symptoms.

As for tinctures, you don't need to get mashed out of your head, don't take too much. You have no idea what you're talking about, listen to your doctor, that's why we pay professionals.

 

[Truth Seeker]

No, I switched 4.5 months ago so I do recognize it as a problem which affected me.

Difference is, I researched the effects of quitting smoking and could see that they matched perfectly to my symptoms.

As for tinctures, you don't need to get mashed out of your head, don't take too much. You have no idea what you're talking about, listen to your doctor, that's why we pay professionals.

I'm just a bit frustrated and venting about it a bit. My intent is not to offend anyone I'm just a bit pissed that I'm having this experience as I really want to make vaping work!

If I listened to a lot of medical advice from professionals I'd be a total wreck by now...lol

 

[invertedisdead]

The problem isn't the high it's the chest pains that come after vaping.

Are you sure you're not getting higher than you can handle and having a panic attack? I've vaped strains where I thought I was going to have a heart attack and die. My elders would call that a "bad trip. Low temper of a racey sativa can be a powerful thing. Combustion burns off almost all of the terpenes and THC so it's harder to get a strong hit like that when smoking.

 

[Truth Seeker]

Are you sure you're not getting higher than you can handle and having a panic attack? I've vaped strains where I thought I was going to have a heart attack and die. My elders would call that a "bad trip. Low temper of a racey sativa can be a powerful thing. Combustion burns off almost all of the terpenes and THC so it's harder to get a strong hit like that when smoking.

I wish that was case my brother! the pains set in about an hour or so after vaping and I had it the next morning to about noon or 1pm.....Heck I went to the gym and used sauna, eucalyptus steam and water pool to detox a bit. Combustion didn't do this to me so I'm like dang! what's up.

Exhaling the vape from my nose also was a bit irritating but that might just be the expectorant effect.

On a side note when I went and bought the cloudious 9 I did ask to look at some Rosin rigs and the man at the shop was well versed in Rosin devices.

I think it might be vaping the plant material and the aromatics and such that just effect some of us differently....I didn't discard your advice the other night my friend!

Even with water percolation I got the same problem as dry vaping so I'm a bit frustrated after a $200 plus purchase. There's other's that have had issues and we are a small minority and generally i dig the superiority of vaping at least in theory but man in practice it kicks my butt or chest (to more aptly put it) it must be the dryness of the vapor even when going through water that causes this?

 

[Truth Seeker]

I'm not giving up on vaping I just need to find a system that works for me.
There's some new ice chest whip thing that is supposed to cool the vape down dramatically that looks pretty interesting. I'm thinking it's a dry vape/air issue with too many inhalations that might be causing the problem.

Maybe resetting my tolerance and limiting inhales to a specified amount or something can make this work!

 

[Truth Seeker]

Thanks guys for putting up with awe tonite!

Peace, love and good medicine for all!