Cannacaps w/ AVB vs eating it straight

[Balzac]

Is there an advantage to making cannacaps with coconut oil + AVB as opposed to just eating the AVB straight?

I realize you don't have to ingest as much plant matter with the coconut oil, but does it actually help with absorption/bio-availability in some way?

Thanks!

 

[DDave]

Is there an advantage to making cannacaps with coconut oil + AVB as opposed to just eating the AVB straight?

I realize you don't have to ingest as much plant matter with the coconut oil, but does it actually help with absorption/bio-availability in some way?

Thanks!

If you eat ABV straight, you need to ensure to consume something with decent fat content to help you body absorb the goodies. Otherwise, there will be little effect. That's one advantage of the cannacaps, already has fat in the coconut oil.

Personally, when I eat ABV straight, I either eat a peanut butter sandwich afterwards or I'm headed out for fast food (where I know I can count on an abundance of fat content).

 

[rabican]

If you eat ABV straight, you need to ensure to consume something with decent fat content to help you body absorb the goodies. Otherwise, there will be little effect. That's one advantage of the cannacaps, already has fat in the coconut oil.

Personally, when I eat ABV straight, I either eat a peanut butter sandwich afterwards or I'm headed out for fast food (where I know I can count on an abundance of fat content).

My question to this is...

Is cooking the ABV into a fat such as coconut oil better than eating the ABV straight and consuming a fat seperatly (i.e., mixing ABV and coconut oil into a blender)?

 

[puddleglum]

It is hard to do any kind of experiment with ABV because there are so many variables (which brand of vape? how fine a grind? what temperature? for how long?) that determine how much medicine is left over in the plant.

I personally like the flavor and texture of simmered and strained ABV oil, as opposed to including the plant fiber in the finished edible. Most good canna-oil recipes call for the addition of lecithin, which it is said boosts the bio-availability (numbers I have heard tossed around are in the 10-20% range).

My most recent brownie recipe, I used 1/2 cup oil as follows: 1/4 cup finely-ground ABV (I used a coffee grinder), 1/2 cup coconut oil, pinch of lecithin. Cook at low heat 8+ hours and strain. The finished brownies were sleepy time goodness.

 

[DDave]

My question to this is...

Is cooking the ABV into a fat such as coconut oil better than eating the ABV straight and consuming a fat seperatly (i.e., mixing ABV and coconut oil into a blender)?

Might taste better, but don't think it would perform that differently.

I used to make Firecrackers, which had both Fat and ABV... good effects hit in approx an hour...

I've also eaten ABV without consuming anything with Fat. Light no fat breakfast. No or very little effects... Then hours and a greasy burger later, after eating got the full effect.

 

[puddleglum]

Thanks for the great info, everyone... I am getting some fun ideas for "stealth" consumption... eating ABV in the morning on an empty stomach, then a fatty snack at work a couple hours later.

 

[4tokin]

I believe dry ABV in capsules provide better bang for the buck than using coconut oil derivatives.
I find with canna caps the coconut oil lubes the innards to a point that the are expelled from the body rapidly due to the oil levels, they will solve constipation issues quick smart. Any one old enough remembers the spoon of castor oil and its effects.
The dry ABV caps tend to travel through the body a bit slower, like any other food allowing full extraction time for the body.

 

[BuzzDanklin]

Straight AVB can upset my stomach, I am not sure if this is a common problem or not. Making the AVB into a butter/oil first solves the issue for me though.

 

[mrs.biggo]

Hi! Newbie here! Loving this place, so I thought I'd jump in here...good a place as any in the forum!
So, I'm also tired of all the "ways" to cook your ABV again, and glad I found the "just eat it" folks!
I just ground up 2g into powder, mixed it into 2 tsp Jif (I like it!), and put it on some toast. Will let you know later!


**1 hr later...nothing noticeable yet, so I topped off with my Solo

 

[DDave]

Hi! Newbie here! Loving this place, so I thought I'd jump in here...good a place as any in the forum!
So, I'm also tired of all the "ways" to cook your ABV again, and glad I found the "just eat it" folks!
I just ground up 2g into powder, mixed it into 2 tsp Jif (I like it!), and put it on some toast. Will let you know later!


**1 hr later...nothing noticeable yet, so I topped off with my Solo

Welcome to FC @mrs.biggo

I'm on both sides of this fence, to cook or not to cook? I like the convenience and effects of the Firecracker recipes that float around here... but also have been known to take a 1/4 or 1/2 teaspoon with a peanut butter chaser as well.

I do leave my ABV a bit on the lighter side for just this purpose...

Good luck with this dose!

 

[mrs.biggo]

Thanks DDave!

Alrighty...going on about 3 1/2 hours...and I'm lovin' it! Started feeling real mellow just about 2 hrs in, and the top-off brought out the best IMHO! Seems to kick-start the punch! Anyway, this was easy, and EXTREMELY worth it to me.
2 roundy tsp of Jif (any style I suppose. I used creamy.)
2g ABV turned into powder in my hand
Mix/blend both in small bowl, spread on ANYTHING!
I made a piece of toast. Pnut Butter was warm and creamy!

Nice and mellow!

 

[DDave]

Thanks DDave!

Alrighty...going on about 3 1/2 hours...and I'm lovin' it! Started feeling real mellow just about 2 hrs in, and the top-off brought out the best IMHO! Seems to kick-start the punch! Anyway, this was easy, and EXTREMELY worth it to me.
2 roundy tsp of Jif (any style I suppose. I used creamy.)
2g ABV turned into powder in my hand
Mix/blend both in small bowl, spread on ANYTHING!
I made a piece of toast. Pnut Butter was warm and creamy!

Nice and mellow!

Anytime Mrs.biggo...

Now imagine wanting the same experience on a day out. Amusement parks, day at the park, beach, whatever, just pack those pre-made "special" peanut butter sandwiches.... (Just keep track of dosing, etc... so you don't launch into outer space during a family get together....).

I find for the perfect carrying container for a double dose of ABV is to use a Contact Lens case. They are liquid-proof, so have never noticed any smell. When I need a lift, I open one side and down the hatch... (then, need to run off to find something fatty to eat). Most often don't need the 2nd dose, but just in case, it's there waiting....

Funny Story... one time I brought a couple Firecrackers into a local amusement park. This park happens to search purses and belt pouches. So there I was, Firecrackers wrapped in aluminum foil, in a ziplock baggie in my belt pouch. The guy asks me to open one to ensure it's nothing "funky". When he sees them, he said they looked delicious and wanted to try one. The only thing I could come up with in a pinch to dis-sway him from this pursuit was to tell him that it wasn't chocolate between those graham crackers, but a laxative. You've never seen anyone lose interest in something so quickly..... and I went on my Merry Way! hahaha!

 

[Deadhead101]

Anytime Mrs.biggo...
Funny Story... one time I brought a couple Firecrackers into a local amusement park. This park happens to search purses and belt pouches. So there I was, Firecrackers wrapped in aluminum foil, in a ziplock baggie in my belt pouch. The guy asks me to open one to ensure it's nothing "funky". When he sees them, he said they looked delicious and wanted to try one. The only thing I could come up with in a pinch to dis-sway him from this pursuit was to tell him that it wasn't chocolate between those graham crackers, but a laxative. You've never seen anyone lose interest in something so quickly..... and I went on my Merry Way! hahaha!

Should have just dosed the bastard. What I've been doing lately is taking a few teaspoons of my ABV coco oil in a coffee mug to work, and after my vape high wears off after a coupe hours, I'll brew some coffee and mix it in the coco oil, you dont even taste the weed....you will smell it however, luckily it was a coworker who pointed it out and not the big boss man.