Cannabis Paste a la New Cure . Org

[Enchantre]

I made a batch of Phoenix Tears/RSO, and whilst doing my searching, I stumbled across Cannabis Paste from a site called New Cure Org.

I just made a single batch - OMG it is dead easy - and had my first dose this morning. Whomp there it is.

Anyone else try this? I'm going to go the 90 days thing, where you use a batch a month for three.

So, I made a small batch of coffee mug RSO... it's on my Instagram... I used 13 g of ground bud (mystery bud shoved in the back of the cupboard), two washes with Everclear (160 proof), then cooked off over boiling water until it's black/green goo.
Almost 3 g of RSO. I'm cooking the rest out of the coffee mug and into coconut milk.

Next, I'm doing this stuff, Cannabis Paste: http://newcure.org/

 

[Been Vapin]

Just watched the video.

The paste is pretty much an unfiltered, hot vegetable glycerin for consuming orally. The website reccomends starting with 1/16th of a teaspoon, 3 times a day. That doesn't seem like much.

@Enchantre What was your starting dose? Did you use VG, olive, or coconut oil? How do you personally compare it to RSO effects wise?

 

[CarolKing]

@Enchantre, I watched that video yesterday. Thanks for posting that. I enjoyed watching it very much.

 

[DDave]

I made a batch of Phoenix Tears/RSO, and whilst doing my searching, I stumbled across Cannabis Paste from a site called New Cure Org.

I just made a single batch - OMG it is dead easy - and had my first dose this morning. Whomp there it is.

Anyone else try this? I'm going to go the 90 days thing, where you use a batch a month for three.

Nice! Saw that while researching RSO... Thanks for trying it out and reporting back!

 

[t-dub]

I watched the video on how to make the paste and found subtle thinking errors in it. They say alcohol is a nutrient blocker but it is purged from RSO so that is a non issue. They call RSO tar and overheated but you don't have to make it that way. I'm about to start making my own and the temps will be very low. Also they never address dose equivalency, meaning how much product do you have to take to get the same dose of actives. Obviously with the plant matter present you would have to take a lot more by weight and volume of the paste. I wonder what this paste tests at for THC%-wise. RSO is very pure and I bet if you lab tested the leavings after making it they would test negative or so close that the difference isn't worth mentioning.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure this stuff works well, it looks great and I want to try it, but in the video they were ripping on Rick Simpson and I think it is to sell/market their product.

 

[Enchantre]

I've been using medibles for awhile, including the occasion doses of RSO, so I have some basis of comparison.

I used a carefully weighed 0.5oz of Purple Mr Nice. Finely ground using a coffee grinder. I carefully weighed 2 oz of Vegetable Glycerin. Stirred together thoroughly, then let that simmer in the crockpot on Low overnight (just a bit longer than 10.5 hours).

I had a small bit of it this morning, perhaps 0.1 - 0.15 g (I weighed a similar sized bit). It set into my head within 45 minutes, which is FAST for me. Pain was quite easy to deal with today, though the heady factor took a few hours to stablize for me. Not fuzzy thinking, just the occasional gap in thinking ability. This lasted until after my chiro appointment, and then dinner... about 5pm, so almost 10 hours of pain management & suffering reduction. Seemed very good for my calming needs, as well.

Yes, they did seem to be raggin' on Rick, but as an herbalist from way back, and as a former raw vegan, there is a lot of phyto-stuff in healing herbs, like cannabis, that are beneficial. Cannabis paste may be a way to get them. I'm considering trying a batch that is naturally decarbolized over time - 90 days is supposed to be the magic number.


NOTE: math was fucked up

Anyway, 1/4 tsp dose, 3x per day, will equal the 4oz (1/2 cup) jar that a half-ounce yields.


I'm going to do this for the rest of the year, and let you know how it goes.

 

[Enchantre]

I picked up some 00 capsules and a filler tray - slick, that - and have figured out that I can cram a batch, 1/2 cup of paste, into 90 capsules - boom, there it is, 1 capsule, 3x per day. Easy-fucking-peasy.

Now, I have capsules, I have paste, and I have a plan. Morning, noon, night

It is backing my pain off a bit. lasts a good 5 or 6 hours, and I'm not vaporizing much. Don't really feel the need... but, when I do, I DO!

Sleep has been crappy anyway, with the hip pain. I did wake up more mentally awake, even though my body was still feeling crappy. I have a little more "umph" going for me today, I think.

 

[Enchantre]

Okay, checking in.

I'm scheduling my capsules for 6, 12, and 6. Last night, I bumped up the sleep factor with some additional RSO (that I made!), and vaping some flowers & oil. I badly tweaked the hip yesterday. Sigh.

Great news, I woke up this morning feeling way better. I think the inflammation is actually going down, as the sharp pain at the site is barely an ache now.

I worked yesterday, with no other herbal support until my break time, when I hit my Elevape once. Just once. It was afternoon when I tweaked my hip, otherwise I think I could have made it all the way to bedtime on just the paste. I did have a couple of extra times when I couldn't type perfectly, (people give me numbers over the phone-I then have to type those in to the various screens I deal with at work), but over all, I think I had an excellent day.

I ordered a bum-load of capsules yesterday, so I will make another batch of this... and, I'm going to try a "cold-brew" batch, too.

 

[Enchantre]

Yesterday I came home early from hip pain.

Today, I did my regular 6/12/6 capsules, and when I was at work, I not once felt the need to vaporize.

I made a second batch with just a touch more VG, as the first batch is really stiff & crumbly. This second batch has some Harlequin and UW in it, for more CBD content than the first batch.

Hubby has been trying really tiny amounts. He's hesitant, since his tolerance is very low.

 

[Been Vapin]

When you make the paste, do you use the crock pot as a water bath (use the videos method) ? Or Just put the VG and material in the crock pot low? How well do you think this recipe would work with ABV?

 

[Enchantre]

I used the crockpot as a water bath. I got 4oz wide mouth jelly jars, and I filled one with a batch.

I didn't weigh the VG this time. I just kept adding it until the jar was full. When it was all done in the water bath, it had the same crumbly consistency. I'm thinking the compression factor on the (expanding) vegetable matter means that's what it's gonna be like.

Not even an issue.

 

[Been Vapin]

Any updates?

 

[Enchantre]

Yes.

I'm sleeping better, my pain level is noticeably less. I'm currently tracking BP as my baseline wellness quantifier.

I'm getting slightly better readings, more often. When I get through another month, I'll start throwing numbers out, as I do not yet have sufficient data for a reliable determination.

At the MMJ Market yesterday, some guy hit on me. I'm thinking this could be an ancillary benefit.

 

[krusht]

I watched the video on how to make the paste and found subtle thinking errors in it. They say alcohol is a nutrient blocker but it is purged from RSO so that is a non issue. They call RSO tar and overheated but you don't have to make it that way. I'm about to start making my own and the temps will be very low. Also they never address dose equivalency, meaning how much product do you have to take to get the same dose of actives. Obviously with the plant matter present you would have to take a lot more by weight and volume of the paste. I wonder what this paste tests at for THC%-wise. RSO is very pure and I bet if you lab tested the leavings after making it they would test negative or so close that the difference isn't worth mentioning.

Don't get me wrong, I'm sure this stuff works well, it looks great and I want to try it, but in the video they were ripping on Rick Simpson and I think it is to sell/market their product.

Hey-uh, t-dub - you are so correct, and he says R.S. uses leaves - so RONG! All Canna extracts are health-boosters - U r right re: nute blocker & temps, dosage, etc. I make CocoCannabudder(paste) for baking, which is the best use for leftover weed after an ISO wash; meanwhile, RSO (my first choice for full health) - which I get crystal-clear, is a rose/amber oil and, while it looks black in a jar or any simple droplet, once you spread it on a paper - with a scope, the purity is obvious - and I know that if I was treating a cancer it would be a simple regimen - 66 grams RSO - 3 doses daily @ 0.22grams (0.66g daily) and enjoy as much vaporizing daily as one can handle. My maintenance dosage now is about 0.20-0.30g daily - it has only done the following, so far:

1) correct a chronic fatty liver (diag. 1975, 2) hold off HepC so no med poisoning required, and I still have 3/4 glasses wine daily! 3) let me live pain-free w/severe spinal arthritis, 4) let me QUIT inhalers(2) for COPD as of July/2012 (my respirologist says "don't bother returning"), 5) ended a heart murmur (diag. 1962) 6) removed liver spots from face & hands, and 7th, outsized my erection.

Anyone wishing to diss RSO or say that one pound of weed will give one a FULL-STRENGTH cancer killer to spread over a year or two is simply spreading false hopes & dis-info - I would welcome any scientific back-up for this kind of recipe - ALL CANNABIS WURKS! Why scuttle a non-leaking boat? I simply see a mis-guided ego here!

 

[krusht]

Yes.

I'm sleeping better, my pain level is noticeably less. I'm currently tracking BP as my baseline wellness quantifier.

I'm getting slightly better readings, more often. When I get through another month, I'll start throwing numbers out, as I do not yet have sufficient data for a reliable determination.

At the MMJ Market yesterday, some guy hit on me. I'm thinking this could be an ancillary benefit.

Anch - I'm likin yer attitude! But if I may presume, I have this advice - QUIT the TRACKING!!! All it does is re-establish another kick of stress, BOOSTING ur bp, so RELAX - if you're sleeping better and your pain is less ...

I don't want to sound like a jerk, but you've already stated your wellness quantificatoinorisistor - take more oil, sleep more hours! Our bodies ONLY heal when we rest(sleep)!

Love is included here! i am adavida

 

[Enchantre]

Anch - I'm likin yer attitude! But if I may presume, I have this advice - QUIT the TRACKING!!! All it does is re-establish another kick of stress, BOOSTING ur bp, so RELAX - if you're sleeping better and your pain is less ...

I don't want to sound like a jerk, but you've already stated your wellness quantificatoinorisistor - take more oil, sleep more hours! Our bodies ONLY heal when we rest(sleep)!

Love is included here! i am adavida

EDIT: okay, I can type now.

While I would never suggest that anyone else stop monitoring their vital signs, like I wouldn't suggest anyone go off pharma meds, I have, as a matter of fact, been pondering this very topic.

I've cut way back on the frequency of "weighing in"... and I think it is, indeed, time to cut way back on the vitals monitoring.

I have seen my numbers improve already, so I am pretty comfy with checking in a lot less often, anyway.

The pain and inflammation levels are a better barometer, anyway. As I continue to sleep well, gradually lose weight, and feel more energetic during the day, I must be doing something right.

Thank you for your valuable insight!

 

[Enchantre]

I'm still losing weight, at what I've always thought of as "ideal" rate... less than the DL says!

I'm way more sensitive to my physical signals/symptoms. I recognize both hunger & satiety. I stop and consider choices way more.

I'm doing my exercises, and I'm a lot more flexible.
I'm sleeping pretty soundly, most of the night. Maybe wake up once, but not always.

I didn't even wake&bake yesterday... just ran with the capsule. Did vape at my mid-day break, but only because I started to talk faster. and I noticed when I started talking faster! I W&B'd this morning, though. I have to stay ahead of the neuralgea/chronic myofascial pain.

Ran into some cheese on Saturday. Sigh. Inflammation rash! it's healing pretty quickly, however. I have to get better at being more assertive about my needs.

 

[krusht]

I'm still losing weight, at what I've always thought of as "ideal" rate... less than the DL says!

I'm way more sensitive to my physical signals/symptoms. I recognize both hunger & satiety. I stop and consider choices way more.

I'm doing my exercises, and I'm a lot more flexible.
I'm sleeping pretty soundly, most of the night. Maybe wake up once, but not always.

I didn't even wake&bake yesterday... just ran with the capsule. Did vape at my mid-day break, but only because I started to talk faster. and I noticed when I started talking faster! I W&B'd this morning, though. I have to stay ahead of the neuralgea/chronic myofascial pain.

Ran into some cheese on Saturday. Sigh. Inflammation rash! it's healing pretty quickly, however. I have to get better at being more assertive about my needs.

Hey lady It is really wonderful you're reporting such progress - and please keep posting! - It well may help some of those sitting on the fence to make a positive move!

There are zero legitimate fears connected to cannabinoid therapy!

I've been testing some limits as well - yesterday I took ZERO cannabis until 4:00 PM without distress - although I have no reason to cut back on my consumption due to shortages or price,it is simply nice to have a tight concept of one's min. requirements, just in case the Universe finds some reason to alter things!

 

[Enchantre]

I was gently nudged to update on my progress...

Okay, after two months, I'm heading into the third month.

I've been taking 4 capsules per day, generally, one every six hours. I get a pleasant "fuzz" behind the ears, and the edge of my physical pain goes very dull.

I've dropped 15 pounds. Was not "trying", though as a rather fluffy woman, I'm ALWAYS trying, right? yeah, whatever. Anyway, the flab is actually starting to melt off me. It seems to be a combo of better digestion, better awareness of my bodily states (hunger, thirst, etc.), and some sort of switch seems to have been flipped - food is pretty meaningless, emotionally, to me.

My skin looks better, I think. Unless I have dairy, then I look like someone shot me with buckshot. *sigh*

Fibro seems pretty calm. Arthritis is still hitting my knee/ankle/foot, but healing takes time...

Things I've learned:

coconut oil + vegetable capsules = bad news
VG + vegetable capsules = acceptable
coconut oil + gelatin capsules = works fine
VG + gelatin capsules = best combo

What I'll try next:

I'm going to grind some aged cannabis (120+ days) that has naturally decarbed, mix with the VG, and cap. No heating. I'll only do enough to fill 50 caps, I think, in case it goes sideways on me.

I have another month, still, worth of capsules to take. I'm nearly done with the coconut oil ones, and will be moving into the VG caps.

 

[u bwade wunner]

I tried the paste recipe but with ABV only..thanks @Enchantre. I just ground my abv to powder and put it in a small jar.I then just covered my abv in coconut oil sparingly and stirred until it was soaked but sticky & stodgy.

placed the sealed jar on low setting in a slow cooker waterbath at 4pm and left it there till worktime 5.30am (9 1/2 hours)the next morning.
after work when cool,i stirred and filled 50 00 caps from the batch,that was without straining....thick black goop.Yummy.

my wife took two caps yesterday (sunday) morning and slept for 8 hours solid.she told me only one will be needed next time.

have yet to try myself.

much more efficient than brownies and easier to determine a dose imo.

has anybody got an easy way to fill 00 caps with sticky black paste?.i tried a syringe but it clogged really badly as towards the finish.i ended up using a slurpee straw but it was messy dipping the straw into the jar & pressing the paste into caps.I like the idea of paste with the plant matter included.

 

[Enchantre]

Since ABV is already decarbed, i just put the powdered abv in the capsules alone. I've thought about adding a little oil, but I think I would just take the capsules with something.

We are ill this weekend, and nothing seems to be working right now. But soon. ..

 

[Newbie2014]

I tried the paste recipe but with ABV only..thanks @Enchantre. I just ground my abv to powder and put it in a small jar.I then just covered my abv in coconut oil sparingly and stirred until it was soaked but sticky & stodgy.

placed the sealed jar on low setting in a slow cooker waterbath at 4pm and left it there till worktime 5.30am (9 1/2 hours)the next morning.
after work when cool,i stirred and filled 50 00 caps from the batch,that was without straining....thick black goop.Yummy.

my wife took two caps yesterday (sunday) morning and slept for 8 hours solid.she told me only one will be needed next time.

have yet to try myself.

much more efficient than brownies and easier to determine a dose imo.

has anybody got an easy way to fill 00 caps with sticky black paste?.i tried a syringe but it clogged really badly as towards the finish.i ended up using a slurpee straw but it was messy dipping the straw into the jar & pressing the paste into caps.I like the idea of paste with the plant matter included.

Try a dabbing tool from your local head shop, one end will have a flat tool to pick the medicine up and put it in the capsule, the other end will be round and fit perfect into the capsule to pack it in.

 

[Newbie2014]

Since ABV is already decarbed, i just put the powdered abv in the capsules alone. I've thought about adding a little oil, but I think I would just take the capsules with something.

We are ill this weekend, and nothing seems to be working right now. But soon. ..

I have made our second batch of the paste and all seems to be working great, wife feels great and so do I.

 

[Enchantre]

I put all the rest of my experiments on hold, and just took the regular cannapaste capsules I've made, for the past week... we've had the flu, maybe.

Getting better now... and still working with the capsules, 3 - 4 times a day. Don't mess with success, at this time, in my mind....

 

[Puffers]

I tried the paste recipe but with ABV only..thanks @Enchantre. I just ground my abv to powder and put it in a small jar.I then just covered my abv in coconut oil sparingly and stirred until it was soaked but sticky & stodgy.

placed the sealed jar on low setting in a slow cooker waterbath at 4pm and left it there till worktime 5.30am (9 1/2 hours)the next morning.
after work when cool,i stirred and filled 50 00 caps from the batch,that was without straining....thick black goop.Yummy.

my wife took two caps yesterday (sunday) morning and slept for 8 hours solid.she told me only one will be needed next time.

have yet to try myself.

much more efficient than brownies and easier to determine a dose imo.

has anybody got an easy way to fill 00 caps with sticky black paste?.i tried a syringe but it clogged really badly as towards the finish.i ended up using a slurpee straw but it was messy dipping the straw into the jar & pressing the paste into caps.I like the idea of paste with the plant matter included.

Try an oral syringe with a big tip or maybe a small turkey baster...

I do.need a bigger syringe.love how you can freeze these capsules.they should last a long time & I stored mine in an amber jar inside a ziplock in the freezer.have yet to try them myself.looking forward to it though.

If you want to help your caps keep better in the heat. If you have room in your caps you can stabilize your oil with all kinds of things corn starch, powdered plant matter, trim, abv, powdered essential herbs that can also help promote bioavailability, etc. This should keep them stable enough keep at ambient temps. Lechitin in your oil can also help stabilize meds for storage but not to the extent of mixing in cornstarch to a silly puddy like consistency for the caps.