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macbill

Oh No! Mr macbill!!
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Does marijuana use really cause psychotic disorders?

Does marijuana cause psychotic disorders such as schizophrenia, and do associated symptoms like paranoia lead to violent crimes? That’s what writer Alex Berenson is claiming. As part of his new book promotion, Berenson published a New York Times op-ed that also blames the drug for “sharp increases in murders and aggravated assaults” purportedly observed in some states that allow adult recreational marijuana use.

As scientists with a combined 70-plus years of drug education and research on psychoactive substances, we find Berenson’s assertions to be misinformed and reckless.
 

tepictoton

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Profesor Carl L Hart is really doing some interesting stuff. If you are interested in educating yourself a bit more about drug use, please read: High Price: A Neuroscientist’s Journey of Self-Discovery that Challenges Everything You Know About Drugs and Society.

Thanks for sharing al these articles by the way!!!

And this book in the article is like reefer madnes in a 21st century jacket. Question is if they are still alle to fool us all...

 

tepictoton

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https://www.civilized.life/articles/dea-marijuana-overdose?utm_source=Cannabist

Even The DEA Admits That Nobody Has Ever Died Of A Marijuana Overdose

James McClure
Jul 10, 2017

Cannabis connoisseurs have been saying for years that marijuana is a safer recreational substance than alcohol. Now they can use the DEA to back up their argument.
"No deaths from overdose of marijuana have been reported," the DEA wrote in the 2017 resource guide titled Drugs of Abuse. The guide offers the lay of the land in terms of illicit drug consumption across America today. The fact that there are no reported deaths due to cannabis overdose means that marijuana is demonstrably safer than liquor, which causes approximately 6 deaths every daydue to alcohol poisoning.
 

C No Ego

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Fuck the dea, don’t need them to tell me there are not enough Cannabinoid receptors in the Brain stem for it to be possible to overdose on Cannabis.. dumb asses!
plus phytocannabinoids from cannabis do not suppress the biological function of our CNS ... they supplement brain function and add needed down stream organizational compounds that dictate signalling and messaging @ the cellular receptors ( cannabinoid receptors) . other wise termed homeostasis... the cannabinoids are responsible for cellular homeostasis and cannabis' bio-mimicry compounds aid in that special way
 

chris 71

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Does marijuana use really cause psychotic disorders?

Does marijuana cause psychotic disorders such as schizophrenia, and do associated symptoms like paranoia lead to violent crimes? That’s what writer Alex Berenson is claiming. As part of his new book promotion, Berenson published a New York Times op-ed that also blames the drug for “sharp increases in murders and aggravated assaults” purportedly observed in some states that allow adult recreational marijuana use.

As scientists with a combined 70-plus years of drug education and research on psychoactive substances, we find Berenson’s assertions to be misinformed and reckless.

Im soo sick of hearing this kind of crap lol thats all it is crap, reading this shit will cause paranoia and psychotic disorders all by its self .

Its reefer madness thats all . people with mental disoders also smoke more tabbaco drink more alcohol and many other things . why arnt they talking about that the link between tabbacco use and psychotic illnesses .. or the link between alcohol or whatever . because there isnt one

people are crazy thats all and there more apt to use substances to possibly change there mindset and make there reality more palatable thats all
 
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C No Ego

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Im soo sick of hearing this kind of crap lol thats all it is crap, reading this shit will cause paranoia and psychotic disoders all by its self .

Its reefer madness thats all . people with mental disoders also smoke more tabbaco drink more alcohol and many other things . why arnt they talking about that the link between tabbacco use and psychotic illnesses .. or the link between alcohol or whatever . because there isnt one

people are crazy thats all and there more apt to use substances to possibly change there mindset and make there reality more palatable thats all
Cannabis news = Cannabis Fixes Crazy
 

chris 71

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Cannabis news = Cannabis Fixes Crazy

Aint that the truth , it fixes my crazy i know that and i have crazy in the family .
and can tell you there are some in my family that never use cannabis or alcohol or any other substances and the crazy is still there .

This is how i know its not the cannabis because the ones that dont use it are still crazy lol
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
Illinois’ new governor touts legal marijuana, but will he remove roadblocks to expand medical pot?

With pro-marijuana J.B. Pritzker now in the Illinois governor’s mansion, all eyes are on his plan to legalize cannabis for recreational use. But even if approved by lawmakers, that could take more than a year to implement, and many voices are raising the call to take things slowly.

In the meantime, advocates say there’s a simple way the governor could greatly increase access to marijuana for those who want it for medical reasons.

At least eight lawsuits are pending to expand the conditions for which medical marijuana would be allowed under the state’s existing program. Chief among them is intractable pain, which the courts have already ordered to be added as a qualifying malady. But that ruling was appealed by the administration of Pritzker’s Republican predecessor, Bruce Rauner.

If Pritzker and new Attorney General Kwame Raoul drop the appeal, the court order would take effect within 30 days. The Illinois Department of Public Health, which resisted adding some new qualifying conditions during Rauner’s term in office, could also now choose on its own to expand access to medical cannabis. Neither Pritzker nor Raoul, who are both Democrats, have yet said what they’ll do with the pending lawsuits.Critics have opposed any broad expansion of the program, because they want to avoid easy availability for anyone claiming an ache or pain.

Since 2015, the state has been allowing sales of marijuana to patients who qualify with any of about 40 specified serious medical conditions, such as cancer and multiple sclerosis, though legal medical cannabis remains a pilot program.

One of the pending lawsuits seeking to expand that list was filed by Chicago-area resident Ann Mednick, who said she suffers from osteoarthritis causing intractable pain, meaning it’s resistant to treatment.

It was her lawsuit that resulted in the court order to add intractable pain as a qualifying condition, with the judge citing clinical studies that found marijuana effective treatment for chronic pain with relatively few side effects.

Mednick said she has no problem getting a prescription for tramadol, a highly addictive narcotic, but hates the side effects. When she asked two of her doctors for medical marijuana, they told her their employers wouldn’t allow them to certify patients because marijuana remains prohibited under federal law.

“They’ve scared the bejesus out of the doctors,” said Mednick, adding she’s just wants to make it easier to accomplish daily activities.

One medical marijuana expansion Rauner did embrace was a new state law allowing it as a replacement for patients who could otherwise get an opioid painkiller prescription. But proponents say simply adding new conditions would be more convenient for affected patients, because some don’t qualify for narcotic painkillers, and those that do must have their prescription renewed every 90 days, instead of the yearlong certificate for general medical cannabis use.


Then-Gov. Bruce Rauner holds up a bill after he signed it on Aug. 28, 2018, at Chicago Recovery Alliance in Chicago. The new law allows patients who are prescribed opioids to instead be allowed to use medical marijuana. (Jose M. Osorio/Chicago Tribune)
Rheumatoid arthritis already qualifies for medical marijuana, but not common osteoarthritis, nor pain in general, which is the most popular qualifying condition in many other states. An online petition asking Rauner to drop his opposition to chronic pain attracted 4,600 signatures.

Mednick’s attorney, Mike Goldberg, said he doesn’t know what the new administration will do, but with the financial backing of the medical marijuana industry, he plans to proceed with the cases if necessary.

“The industry is definitely interested in putting these cases back on track to force the new administration to address whether to expand the program,” he said.

Ross Morreale, co-founder of medical marijuana company Ataraxia and former chairman of the Medical Cannabis Alliance of Illinois, said dropping the opposition to the lawsuits would be the “fastest and easiest” way to improve access.

The Illinois health department could also approve any of at least eight conditions that were recommended by the now-dissolved state medical cannabis advisory board, including neuropathy, osteoarthritis and chronic pain from trauma.

“To have these added … would help tens of thousands of Illinois residents gain access to medical cannabis, and would in turn increase the 2019 tax revenue to the state by four to five times,” Morreale said.

The Medical Cannabis Advisory Board was disbanded in 2017 as part of a deal with Rauner’s administration that added terminal illness and post-traumatic stress syndrome as qualifying conditions. PTSD has since become the No. 1 reason people use medical marijuana in Illinois.

Tim McAnarney, a lobbyist for Healthy and Productive Illinois, which opposes marijuana legalization, said his group does not oppose decriminalization or medical marijuana themselves but doesn’t support any widespread expansion.

“We don’t want to become California, where you stub your toe and get (medical marijuana),” he said. “At some point you have to draw a line. Is it really for medical (reasons), or just to try to inch closer to complete legalization?”

Even if recreational marijuana is approved, the medical program will remain important because it will likely be taxed at a much lower rate, and it may provide additional legal protections for those who use it.

On the campaign trail, Pritzker often voiced his support for making sure that medical marijuana is accessible to the people who need it, and he wants to preserve the program despite the advent of recreational marijuana, spokeswoman Jordan Abudayyeh said.

“J.B. is committed to working with lawmakers to ensure medical cannabis regulations meet the medical needs of Illinoisans,” she said, “and looks forward to working with the General Assembly to continue making the program accessible to those who need it.”

A spokesperson for Raoul declined comment, but the state’s new attorney general has voiced support for medical marijuana access. His office generally is tasked with representing the wishes of its client, in this case, the department of health, which falls under the governor’s purview.

In addition to adding conditions, another way the new governor could expand medical marijuana, advocates say, is by awarding or rebidding five dispensary licenses that were never issued. As the industry is poised to balloon in size, there is much more interest in those licenses now.

“It could very well happen,” said attorney Bob Bauerschmidt, who has represented the patients filing lawsuits as well as dispensaries. “I’d be shocked if the governor denies medical marijuana when he’s talking about approving recreational.”
 

cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
Illinois marijuana dispensaries on a hiring binge as access expands

Marijuana plant (File photo by David McNew/Getty Images)


Posted: Jan 20 2019 03:36PM CST

Updated: Jan 21 2019 02:41PM CST

CHICAGO (AP) -- Illinois is about to roll out a pilot program that will offer patients access to medical marijuana as an alternative to opioids, and medical cannabis dispensaries across the state are getting ready.

Dispensaries are extending hours and hiring additional workers for the expected increased demand in medical marijuana once the Opioid Alternative Pilot Program launches at the end of January, The Chicago Tribune reported. The Illinois Department of Public Health's program will allow medical marijuana to be used in place of prescription painkillers.

Mission South Shore medical marijuana dispensary has increased parking space and its workforce over the past six months in preparation for the program, said Rick Armstrong, the dispensary's general manager.

"We want to be prepared if one patient comes in the door or 100 patients," he said. "We want to be there, ready to go."

Then-Gov. Bruce Rauner signed the pilot program into law in August. Patients previously had to have one of about 40 conditions, such as cancer or AIDS, to qualify for medical cannabis.

To qualify for the pilot program, patients must be certified by a doctor. Patients can then register for the program at a dispensary or the local health department for a $10 fee. People who qualify for the program must visit a doctor every 90 days in order to renew the certification.

Staff at Green Thumb Industries, a Chicago-based medical marijuana provider, are training to learn how to patients safely transition from opioids to medical cannabis, said Jennifer Dooley, the company's chief strategy officer.

"You can't just stop cold turkey, especially transitioning from opioids to cannabis," Dooley said, noting that staff will collaborate with patients to slowly reduce their opioid use.
 

Tranquility

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https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...cts-ad-benefits-medical-marijuana/2639175002/

CBS rejected a Super Bowl ad that makes a case for medical marijuana.

Acreage Holdings, which is in the cannabis cultivation, processing and dispensing business, said it produced a 60-second ad that shows three people suffering from varying health issues who say their lives were made better by use of medical marijuana.

Acreage said its ad agency sent storyboards for the ad to the network and received a return email that said: “CBS will not be accepting any ads for medical marijuana at this time.”

A CBS spokesperson told USA TODAY Sports that under CBS broadcast standards it does not currently accept cannabis-related advertising.

“One of the hardest parts about this business is the ambiguity that we operate within,” Allen said. “We do the best we can to navigate a complex fabric of state and federal policy, much of which conflicts.”

Allen said the company had not decided whether to run its 60-second ad or a 30-second version when it learned that CBS would not accept any ads for medical marijuana.

CBS is charging an average of $5.2 million for a 30-second ad in this year's game between the Los Angeles Rams and New England Patriots on Feb. 3.

“It’s a public service announcement really more than it is an advertisement,” said Harris Damashek, Acreage’s chief marketing officer. “We’re not marketing any of our products or retail in this spot.”

An unfinished version of the 60-second ad introduces a Colorado boy who suffers from Dravet syndrome; his mother says her son would have dozens to hundreds of seizures a day and medical marijuana saved his life. A Buffalo man says he was on opioids for 15 years after three back surgeries and that medical marijuana gave him his life back. An Oakland man who lost part of his leg in military service says his pain was unbearable until medical marijuana.


“The time is now,” say words on the screen near the end of the ad. Then the screen shifts and viewers are asked to call on their representatives in the U.S. House and Senate to advocate for change. Fine print at the bottom says the testimonials in the ad come from the experiences of the individuals and have not been evaluated by the FDA. The fine print also says marijuana is a Schedule I controlled substance and medical use has not been approved in some states.

“Look, from my third-grade government class, we live in a representative democracy,” Allen said. “In theory, our elected officials are supposed to support legislative action that is in keeping with the will of the people.”

Acreage expects to post the ad online at some point so people can see it, even if they can’t see it on the Super Bowl.

“It’s not quite ready yet,” Damashek said, “but we anticipate and look forward to getting the message out far and wide.”​
 

Sick Vape

Solar Dabs
Science/Human: Vaporisation may be more effective than smoking cannabis


In a study with 17 healthy adults with no past-month cannabis use THC blood concentrations were higher after vaporising than with smoking cannabis with the same THC content. Scientists of the Johns Hopkins University School of medicine in Baltimore published their research in the Journal of Analytical Toxicology. They received cannabis containing 0, 10 or 25 mg THC in six double-blind sessions.

Blood concentrations of THC and its metabolites (11-OH-THC, THCCOOH) were dose-dependent for both methods of administration, but higher following vaporization compared with smoking. THC was detected longer in oral fluid compared to blood. Authors wrote that “cannabis pharmacokinetics vary by method of inhalation and biological matrix being tested. Vaporization appears to be a more efficient method of delivery compared with smoking.”

Spindle TR, Cone EJ, Schlienz NJ, Mitchell JM, Bigelow GE, Flegel R, Hayes E, Vandrey R. J Anal Toxicol. 2019 Jan 7. [in press]

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Tranquility

Well-Known Member
https://www.usatoday.com/story/spor...cts-ad-benefits-medical-marijuana/2639175002/

CBS rejected a Super Bowl ad that makes a case for medical marijuana.

Acreage Holdings, which is in the cannabis cultivation, processing and dispensing business, said it produced a 60-second ad that shows three people suffering from varying health issues who say their lives were made better by use of medical marijuana.

Acreage said its ad agency sent storyboards for the ad to the network and received a return email that said: “CBS will not be accepting any ads for medical marijuana at this time.”

A CBS spokesperson told USA TODAY Sports that under CBS broadcast standards it does not currently accept cannabis-related advertising.

“One of the hardest parts about this business is the ambiguity that we operate within,” Allen said. “We do the best we can to navigate a complex fabric of state and federal policy, much of which conflicts.”

Allen said the company had not decided whether to run its 60-second ad or a 30-second version when it learned that CBS would not accept any ads for medical marijuana.

CBS is charging an average of $5.2 million for a 30-second ad in this year's game between the Los Angeles Rams and New England Patriots on Feb. 3.

“It’s a public service announcement really more than it is an advertisement,” said Harris Damashek, Acreage’s chief marketing officer. “We’re not marketing any of our products or retail in this spot.”

An unfinished version of the 60-second ad introduces a Colorado boy who suffers from Dravet syndrome; his mother says her son would have dozens to hundreds of seizures a day and medical marijuana saved his life. A Buffalo man says he was on opioids for 15 years after three back surgeries and that medical marijuana gave him his life back. An Oakland man who lost part of his leg in military service says his pain was unbearable until medical marijuana.


“The time is now,” say words on the screen near the end of the ad. Then the screen shifts and viewers are asked to call on their representatives in the U.S. House and Senate to advocate for change. Fine print at the bottom says the testimonials in the ad come from the experiences of the individuals and have not been evaluated by the FDA. The fine print also says marijuana is a Schedule I controlled substance and medical use has not been approved in some states.

“Look, from my third-grade government class, we live in a representative democracy,” Allen said. “In theory, our elected officials are supposed to support legislative action that is in keeping with the will of the people.”

Acreage expects to post the ad online at some point so people can see it, even if they can’t see it on the Super Bowl.

“It’s not quite ready yet,” Damashek said, “but we anticipate and look forward to getting the message out far and wide.”​
Here's the ad that was rejected.

 

neverforget711

Well-Known Member
Welp big pharma already booby traped the benefits of hemp.

Big Pharma has patented the exclusive rights to a cancer cure using cannabis, preventing others from using THC and CBD to treat the disease.



British company, GW Pharmaceuticals, had previously developed cannabis-based drugs for multiple sclerosis and epilepsy. Now, they hold the rights to treat cancer.



Rxleaf.com reports: https://archive.fo/67mbv




In 2009, GW went forward with a patent application, alongside collaborator Otsuka Pharmaceutical. At the end of September, GW announced that they had received a Notice of Allowance from the U.S. Patent Office to go forward with production of their cannabis-based cancer treatment, Sativex.



Numerous studies have shown that cannabis can be used to treat cancer by eradicating cancer cells and stopping metastasis, in most types of cancer. The latest GW drug will harness the power of THC and CBD to treat gliomas, which are a rare form of brain cancer.



The now-patented pharmaceutical uses a ratio of THC and CBD ranging from 1:1 to 1:20 (THC:CBD) to “reduce cell viability, inhibit cell growth or reduce tumor volume”, according to the company. It is interesting to note that GW’s treatment, Sativex, grew out of a long history of pre-clinical trials and anecdotal evidence that show the use of cannabis and cannabis-based products for tumor reduction.



The company went ahead with clinical trials in August 2018 to test the efficacy of Sativex. This trial will look at efficacy of Sativex when combined with more traditional mainstream cancer treatments. Sativex and the chemotherapy drug, temozolomide, has been administered to 20 patients with recurrent glioblastoma multiforme (GBM). This is a rare and very deadly type of brain cancer.



The original patent application was sent in 2009, but has been subsequently changed to accommodate FDA requirements. Changes would include specifics like THC and CBD ratios in the medication, as well as the forms of cancer that Sativex may be able to treat.



https://archive.fo/m1WSX

https://newspunch.com/big-pharma-patents-cannabis-cancer-treatment
 

Tranquility

Well-Known Member
Welp big pharma already booby traped the benefits of hemp.

Big Pharma has patented the exclusive rights to a cancer cure using cannabis, preventing others from using THC and CBD to treat the disease.



British company, GW Pharmaceuticals, had previously developed cannabis-based drugs for multiple sclerosis and epilepsy. Now, they hold the rights to treat cancer.



Rxleaf.com reports: https://archive.fo/67mbv




In 2009, GW went forward with a patent application, alongside collaborator Otsuka Pharmaceutical. At the end of September, GW announced that they had received a Notice of Allowance from the U.S. Patent Office to go forward with production of their cannabis-based cancer treatment, Sativex.



Numerous studies have shown that cannabis can be used to treat cancer by eradicating cancer cells and stopping metastasis, in most types of cancer. The latest GW drug will harness the power of THC and CBD to treat gliomas, which are a rare form of brain cancer.



The now-patented pharmaceutical uses a ratio of THC and CBD ranging from 1:1 to 1:20 (THC:CBD) to “reduce cell viability, inhibit cell growth or reduce tumor volume”, according to the company. It is interesting to note that GW’s treatment, Sativex, grew out of a long history of pre-clinical trials and anecdotal evidence that show the use of cannabis and cannabis-based products for tumor reduction.



The company went ahead with clinical trials in August 2018 to test the efficacy of Sativex. This trial will look at efficacy of Sativex when combined with more traditional mainstream cancer treatments. Sativex and the chemotherapy drug, temozolomide, has been administered to 20 patients with recurrent glioblastoma multiforme (GBM). This is a rare and very deadly type of brain cancer.



The original patent application was sent in 2009, but has been subsequently changed to accommodate FDA requirements. Changes would include specifics like THC and CBD ratios in the medication, as well as the forms of cancer that Sativex may be able to treat.



https://archive.fo/m1WSX

https://newspunch.com/big-pharma-patents-cannabis-cancer-treatment

The patent would be almost useless if the IP was cancer treatment by THC and CBD. While the writers of patents want to make them seem as broad as possible, enforcement of such broad patents don't generally happen. (Other than a nasty letter in the hope of scaring the other party.)

GW's patents seem more useful in regards to dosing theory. How do you get a replicable dose of active ingredients from cannabis? It is that process where GW will get the most value from a patent, because they actually did invent something. If you read the principal's thesis, it's basically a method of making bubble hash in a manner that can be repeated at scale and refined to get the same result in each batch. That was their first patent as well.

https://patents.justia.com/assignee/gw-pharma-limited

Now, don't get me to agree IP law in the U.S. is working well for all the stakeholders, it's not. But, GW's patents for some of the broad claims are not going to hinder research or bringing out of scientifically accepted treatments using cannabis for cancer, skin, mental or other treatments they have some patent on as well.
 
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hans solo

Left coast Canada
Cannabis is still listed as a Schedule 1 controlled substance by the US federal government. This classification indicates that a drug has no medicinal value and a high potential for abuse but apparently it can potentially help cure cancer. WTF!
 

howie105

Well-Known Member
Cannabis is still listed as a Schedule 1 controlled substance by the US federal government. This classification indicates that a drug has no medicinal value and a high potential for abuse but apparently it can potentially help cure cancer. WTF!

This is why you don't want to politicize anything anymore then it has to be. It often muddies up reality and slows down objective study. The worst part is that the people who are really getting hurt by all this the most are those in real need, so I am all in favor of not waiting for the Bozos to get on the bus.
 

Silver420Surfer

Downward spiral
California Cannabis Labs Are Finding Toxic Metal in Vape Carts

"Yes, the toxic, heavy metal “lead” (chemical symbol Pb) is showing up in lab tests of recreational cannabis products in California. Specifically, those disposable, pen-sized e-cigarette devices dubbed “vaporizer cartridges” or “vape carts.”

Vape carts are a surging, highly profitable new sector of legal cannabis. They let you inhale a cool, potent cannabis mist anywhere at any time without anyone noticing. Since January 1 in California, all legal cannabis vape carts are subject to stringent new testing for heavy metals, including lead. Labs are reporting that some percentage of vape carts are showing a concerning amount of lead.

That’s a problem, because the Centers for Disease Control has found that there is no safe level of exposure to lead. It’s a neurotoxin that can decrease IQ, as well as sicken and kill you. The US and other countries have spent decades throttling lead exposures—banning lead paint, leaded gasoline, and other sources.
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Lotta shady ass products coming out of California. The worst part is how much Cali product makes its way out to other non-cannabis legal states. If this doesn't give people pause to consider using these devices, I don't know what will. Sad for the patients of California that they have a now regulated market, but so much failing/ unhealthy products.
 

looney2nz

Research Geek, Mad Scientist
California Cannabis Labs Are Finding Toxic Metal in Vape Carts

"Yes, the toxic, heavy metal “lead” (chemical symbol Pb) is showing up in lab tests of recreational cannabis products in California. Specifically, those disposable, pen-sized e-cigarette devices dubbed “vaporizer cartridges” or “vape carts.”

Vape carts are a surging, highly profitable new sector of legal cannabis. They let you inhale a cool, potent cannabis mist anywhere at any time without anyone noticing. Since January 1 in California, all legal cannabis vape carts are subject to stringent new testing for heavy metals, including lead. Labs are reporting that some percentage of vape carts are showing a concerning amount of lead.

That’s a problem, because the Centers for Disease Control has found that there is no safe level of exposure to lead. It’s a neurotoxin that can decrease IQ, as well as sicken and kill you. The US and other countries have spent decades throttling lead exposures—banning lead paint, leaded gasoline, and other sources.
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Lotta shady ass products coming out of California. The worst part is how much Cali product makes its way out to other non-cannabis legal states. If this doesn't give people pause to consider using these devices, I don't know what will. Sad for the patients of California that they have a now regulated market, but so much failing/ unhealthy products.

Patients in California, like most other legals states now, have been screwed.
In So Cal, the market is FLOODED with carts of every description, but try and find a syringe of concentrate.

You can find waxes, shatters, and 'Live Resins'... but for folks that invested in high end vapes, portables with tanks... you're screwed. On top of that, you can find edibles, but almost all of them are 100mg total, sectioned into 10mg doses. That's all fine and well, but some of us are using 3grams+ a day, and if you've got Cancer (which I do), you'd be eating a CRAP LOAD of SUGAR... not a good idea.

On top of that, like happened in WA state, medical patients are now getting stuck with the grow and excise taxes, and in reality the sales taxes as well unless you sign up for the State ID card (then there's the issue of the Constitutionality of laws that discriminate against cannabis users and firearms, getting a State ID card means you give up your firearms... which is a ridiculous proposition if you live in the many areas of California where you HAVE to have a shotgun and a 45 to protect your property and family from bears, mountain lions, coyotes (we have built out into wildlife corridors). Costs for patients basically went up about 50%.

So we now have a marketplace flooded with these damn carts, and honestly, through 3rd party testing just on pesticides and fungicides only a few have fully passed muster, and I'm crossing my fingers when it comes to the few that I've used in desperation when it comes to the heavy metals and organics.
That said, I was surprised at how carts had improved since my 1st introduction to them with those stupid pens. ROVE, Interstate 710, Honey Vape, Raw Garden, Jetty all seem to consistently pass muster (don't know about Phase 3 testing yet).
This is complicated further by folks replicating the packaging and ripping off the original (especially true for the bright printed plastic wrappers).
It seems you stand less of a chance crossing paths with these products if you're dealing with a fully compliant Prop64 shop.

I'll tell you one thing, some very funny games have been played in this state in the last 18months :(
I was so sick at one point I was ordering from delivery services and somehow they were able to dodge the packaging law section of Prop64. Calling/emailing the manufacturer to get answers got a bunch of 'dancing', but no answers.

It pisses me off that they are giving Californians a black eye outside the state, and potentially making patients in other states sick. Not that they should do that to ANYONE.

Wish I hadn't been as sick as I was before Prop64 got the nod. I would have been raising holy hell.
 

Silver420Surfer

Downward spiral
The only carts I really favor anymore are Chroma out of Colorado... most effective I have every used.

Unless Chroma is using different/non-Chinese made cartridges(which i will almost guarantee you they were not) you're completely missing the point of this article, not too mention, "most effective" has ZERO to do with the medicine inside being tainted with lead.
 

macbill

Oh No! Mr macbill!!
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