Canada to legalize in Spring 2017!

[macbill]

Canada’s Message to Teenagers: Marijuana Is Legal Now. Please Don’t Smoke It.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/11/...html?action=click&module=News&pgtype=Homepage
Parents and grandparents jammed the small hall of Thornbury, a sleepy ski town north of Toronto, to glean tips on how to talk to their teenagers about the potential harms of marijuana. Held less than a week before Canada was set to legalize cannabis, the public health session had a message for parents: Marijuana would be legal for adults, but it was not safe for young people. And parents needed to instill in their children the idea that pot could be dangerous.

 

[pakalolo]

Canada’s Message to Teenagers: Marijuana Is Legal Now. Please Don’t Smoke It.
Parents and grandparents jammed the small hall of Thornbury, a sleepy ski town north of Toronto, to glean tips on how to talk to their teenagers about the potential harms of marijuana. Held less than a week before Canada was set to legalize cannabis, the public health session had a message for parents: Marijuana would be legal for adults, but it was not safe for young people. And parents needed to instill in their children the idea that pot could be dangerous.

I don't see anything wrong with that message. I always extend it further: no one should smoke cannabis. See forum name.

 

[howie105]

CSN&Y "Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you will cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you."

 

[IntoTheVoid]

Ordered some B.E.C. by Redecan from the Canada govt site. Took a day and a half to be delivered. The quality is good. The buds are “smalls” but the taste and high are good and it was worth paying for. If I got 3.5g locally from an unlicensed “illegal” place it would have been about $35CAD. After tax and shipping it was about the same. I can live with that. Once they start opening legal shops here in a Victoria I won’t have to pay the $10 shipping (cost of signature and age verification) so about $25 for 3.5g is all good.

 

[hans solo]

I remember the days of shop on every corner.
Ultimately everybody is selling the same product.
What’d we need to do is scrutize the products of the suppliers.
The early chatter regarding leaf and stem content needs to be addressed.
Poor quality product should not be accepted and will ultimately be the dimisse of said suppliers.

 

[ginolicious]

Some talk I have seen lately that is not too good for us Canadians. Been reading stuff that people are very unhappy about legalization. That the government has not come through on their promises. That people are so upset with the way it’s being handled that they are resorting back to the black market and that was one of the biggest selling features about legalization, that they will eliminate the black market.

With an election coming next year and if the liberals do not win, could make pot illegal once again. Be stupid after all the money it’s made, the jobs and the infrastructure. But the main issue with people is that the government can’t meet the demand and deliver its promise on eliminating the black market.

I hope they don’t do nothing stupid.

 

[Alexis]

Some talk I have seen lately that is not too good for us Canadians. Been reading stuff that people are very unhappy about legalization. That the government has not come through on their promises. That people are so upset with the way it’s being handled that they are resorting back to the black market and that was one of the biggest selling features about legalization, that they will eliminate the black market.

With an election coming next year and if the liberals do not win, could make pot illegal once again. Be stupid after all the money it’s made, the jobs and the infrastructure. But the main issue with people is that the government can’t meet the demand and deliver its promise on eliminating the black market.

I hope they don’t do nothing stupid.

No way could this happen, no way now. For a start, what great fools would they look like to the rest of the world? A right mockey, after making such an extraordinary song and dance with massive global ripples.

To then go, "oh no, we had it all wrong to begin with- we FINALLY figured out our mistake. Cannabis=GOOD! We checked and checked and checked again. Yep. We got it right now, 100%. The science is in. All sytems go!"

So apart from anything else how could they possibly go back on this now and maintain any sort of credibility? Especially with the dumb masses we believe everything I say up until now.

So I really don't see this happening and I wouldn't worry about this if you want something to worry about just worry about them failing to do the plant anywhere close to justice, and generally keeping as much control and restricting freedom and personal rights as much as possible.

 

[pakalolo]

Some talk I have seen lately that is not too good for us Canadians. Been reading stuff that people are very unhappy about legalization. That the government has not come through on their promises. That people are so upset with the way it’s being handled that they are resorting back to the black market and that was one of the biggest selling features about legalization, that they will eliminate the black market.

With an election coming next year and if the liberals do not win, could make pot illegal once again. Be stupid after all the money it’s made, the jobs and the infrastructure. But the main issue with people is that the government can’t meet the demand and deliver its promise on eliminating the black market.

I hope they don’t do nothing stupid.

It's plural: black markets. We've long had two black markets, one based on the recreational market and one for the medical market. The recreational market is largely served by organized criminal elements (think gangs) while the medical market is supplied by master growers who gave us the wonderful world of strains we have today. Of course there's some overlap, but there's a lot of unhappiness that those largely responsible for significant advances in cannabis agriculture are being frozen out in favour of the new giant licensed providers. It would be great if legalization could eliminate the former while bringing the latter into the legal structure but the path towards that seems uncertain. Meanwhile, our new dealers the government are turning out to be no more reliable than Charlie who hangs out at the Balls & Pockets and isn't sure if this is an indica or sativa but dude, it's so strong.

I agree with @Alexis that even a Conservative majority can't put this genie back in the bottle. What we need now is some sensible leadership to get us through the inevitable rough period.

 

[ginolicious]

It makes sense what you all say. And I truly undestand the issue of quality. But the law also allows us to be that master grower if we want. Just not on a large scale. Taking that in account we now have full control. That has quite a benefit personally

 

[pakalolo]

It makes sense what you all say. And I truly undestand the issue of quality. But the law also allows us to be that master grower if we want. Just not on a large scale. Taking that in account we now have full control. That has quite a benefit personally

A lot of people are about to learn how hard it is to grow, and that's all we can say about that until @vtac comes back and changes the rules.

 

[macbill]

Canada’s Grand Cannabis Experiment Has Set Scientists Free

As the first G-7 nation to slacken cannabis laws, Canada has bolted to the front lines of the plant’s methodical scrutiny and investigation. No longer at risk of censure or lacking access to specimens, researchers can transcend the narrow parameters of scientific study once considered acceptable, namely, clinical research, to explore social, biological, genetic and agricultural questions. From botanists to phytochemists, microbiologists to epidemiologists, scientists of all sorts are free to openly pursue a greater quantity and quality of cannabis science than ever before.

The scholarship on cannabis will finally advance now that a developed, Western society has welcomed back an ancient drug plant, says Jonathan Page, a Vancouver-based plant biologist and a leader of the cannabis genome project. Therapeutic marijuana application dates back thousands of years, according to archaeological and historical records.

 

[lazylathe]

Just going to leave this here....

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheOCS/com...ity_bugs_bugs_bugs/?utm_source=reddit-android

 

[hans solo]

Interesting I notice these same Redecan products are available on the B.C. online store.
Thankfully my herb is all still greymarket product.

 

[chris 71]

Im not trying to stick up for the LPs i basicly think they have been given licence to grow money trees lol

And although i am still a med patient as soon as i can grow my own i will definatly not be giving them my money .

But people that are freaking out about bug pieces ( maybe lady bugs ) and possible mold . have to keep in mind that maybe the reason why they say they have never encountered this with there black market weed .

Could be because its been sprayed with god only knows what pesticides and fungicides maybe thats why they havnt seen it before lol

 

[Polarbearboy]

Talked to friends in Newfoundland last eve. They just got back from St. Johns, where they stopped in to the largest retail weed store in the province to get some wares. Completely sold out. Nothing but CBD stuff.

I'm headed up in a couple of weeks and for the first time in a while, won't be carrying stuff across the border. I was given two bottles of 21-year-old Scotch for my birthday that I want to bring up to share with my friends, in addition to my case of hand selected double IPAs and Belgian tripels. My previous experiences bringing up extra booze is that it almost always means a search. So I checked the New Brunswick legal weed situation. At least as of last week, the government sellers appear to have stock. Thank God that NB has the lowest ratio of cannabis users of any province. More for me.

 

[pakalolo]

Talked to friends in Newfoundland last eve. They just got back from St. Johns, where they stopped in to the largest retail weed store in the province to get some wares. Completely sold out. Nothing but CBD stuff.

I'm headed up in a couple of weeks and for the first time in a while, won't be carrying stuff across the border. I was given two bottles of 21-year-old Scotch for my birthday that I want to bring up to share with my friends, in addition to my case of hand selected double IPAs and Belgian tripels. My previous experiences bringing up extra booze is that it almost always means a search. So I checked the New Brunswick legal weed situation. At least as of last week, the government sellers appear to have stock. Thank God that NB has the lowest ratio of cannabis users of any province. More for me.

All of my legal supply came from Newfoundland, where I was visiting for the first three weeks after legalization. A week after opening the stores in the central part of the island still had lots of Lemon Skunk, and a couple of high THC selections (Donegal and Moonbeam) as well as some CBD strains (Boaty McBoatface and Balance Harmonizer). Both of these are excellent for my chronic back pain and they still have enough THC (~4-5%) to provide a nice buzz. Their menu was much larger of course, but most of it was gone. I don't doubt they're down to nothing now. What I don't understand, and this is true all across the country, is how our new dealers the governments could so badly underestimate demand.

 

[ginolicious]

Ocs hasn’t really steered me wrong. I’m very fond of the Liiv brand that’s always in stock. $26 for 3.5g. It’s budget weed. But damn worth the price.

Bugs happen. It sucks cause Redecan was a favourite of mine

 

[Tranquility]

I don't remember where the discussion was, so I'll put it here. There was a concern over how Canadians coming over the border should respond to cannabis questions because of a Catch 22-type situation. I don't know if the bill will pass, but at least there is an attempt to fix that problem.

https://www.marijuanamoment.net/mar...would-be-solved-under-new-congressional-bill/

Marijuana can really mess up border and immigration issues for people who partake in consumption or participate in the industry, but that would change if a new bill being introduced in Congress this week is enacted.

Under current U.S. laws, people who admit to past cannabis use or who work for or invest in marijuana businesses can be barred from visiting the country under certain circumstances. And marijuana consumption, even if it is legal under state law, can lead to an immigrant being deported.

The new legislation, the Maintaining Appropriate Protections For Legal Entry Act, would provide exceptions for conduct that “was lawful in the State, Indian Tribe, or foreign country in which the conduct occurred” or that was “subsequently made lawful under the law or regulation of such jurisdiction,” according to a draft obtained by Marijuana Moment.

The bill, known as the MAPLE Act for short—surely a nod to the leaf on Canada’s flag—is being filed on Wednesday by Rep. Earl Blumenauer (D-OR).

U.S. border policies on entry by marijuana industry participants were slightly loosened just ahead of the launch of Canada’s legal marijuana market in October to clarify that people working for cannabis businesses are generally admissible to the U.S., with the caveat that “if a traveler is found to be coming to the U.S. for reason related to the marijuana industry, they may be deemed inadmissible.”

And that’s a key exception. Several Canadians traveling to a cannabis industry conference in Las Vegas last month were detained for hours, with one investor being given a lifetime ban from visiting the U.S.

While there is almost certainly not enough time for Blumenauer’s proposal to be considered and voted on by the end of the year, its language could easily be adopted into new legislation after the 116th Congress is seated in January.

In October, the congressman laid out a plan for a step-by-step approach to federally legalizing marijuana in 2019 in a memo to fellow House Democrats.​

 

[Manity]

Most LP stuff is garbage! We have an ongoing lawsuit against Organigram for spraying banned pesticides on a mouldy cannabis crop! Black market will thrive under this new government monopoly!

 

[chimpybits]

First private licensed cannabis store set to open in Vancouver
- 11am Saturday

 

[chimpybits]

Just turned myself back home after reading:
Unfortunately, due to the holiday season impacting timelines at Vancouver City Hall, we will be delaying our grand (re)-opening until Saturday January 5th.

 

[Polarbearboy]

I entered Canada at St. Stephen, NB by car, on my way to the Newfoundland ferry for the overnight crossing. I own a home in Newfoundand and go back and forth typically twice a year, almost always by car/pick-up truck. I brought three cleaned vapes across the border and was thanking the Lord that I didn't get searched, cause I don't know what they'd do. [Crafty with dosing caps, Fury 2 with caps, and Stardustsailor VapCap!] I left a stash between St. Stephen and St John, but it was buried in deep snow and I couldn't find it. I stopped in Sussex for a Subway sandwich, and couldn't believe my luck when I spotted the brand new Cannabis NB store on the other side of the parking lot. Lots of security and two budtenders and glass cases filled with retail containers.The stuff is all highly packaged and not directly visible for inspection, but has lab tested THC and CDB percentages printed on the package. I purchased 3.5 grms of Tweed Sunset fro $53CN and 3.5gms of Edison La Strada for $47CN. Paid cash so that I wouldn't have it on my credit card.

I really liked knowing the THC and CBD contents, but was appalled at how much child-proof retail packaging there is for each 3.5gms. The containers are hard plastic and big enough to hold a half oz or more. This is also significantly more expensive than my prior blackmarket purchases.

The material, dried flower, is much drier than I like. I suppose that that makes it easier to have exact weights and known THC contents. Fortunately I brought Boveda packs with me, which I couldn't get delivered to my remote place here the last time I visited.

I'm now up at my quite remote place on the Strait of Belle Isle, and have more than sampled both strains. Plus I have four other strains, two of which I carried across the border the last time I came up and two that I bought by looking on line at WeedMaps for the nearest city--300 miles away from here, which I needed to go to anyway.

I like legalization! On the other hand, we just had a severe snowstorm that blew 130K/nearly 80MPH. Lost power and internet for one day and four days respectively. On the worst day it was too scary to get stoned--which is saying something for me!

 

[Manity]

I entered Canada at St. Stephen, NB by car, on my way to the Newfoundland ferry for the overnight crossing. I own a home in Newfoundand and go back and forth typically twice a year, almost always by car/pick-up truck. I brought three cleaned vapes across the border and was thanking the Lord that I didn't get searched, cause I don't know what they'd do. [Crafty with dosing caps, Fury 2 with caps, and Stardustsailor VapCap!] I left a stash between St. Stephen and St John, but it was buried in deep snow and I couldn't find it. I stopped in Sussex for a Subway sandwich, and couldn't believe my luck when I spotted the brand new Cannabis NB store on the other side of the parking lot. Lots of security and two budtenders and glass cases filled with retail containers.The stuff is all highly packaged and not directly visible for inspection, but has lab tested THC and CDB percentages printed on the package. I purchased 3.5 grms of Tweed Sunset fro $53CN and 3.5gms of Edison La Strada for $47CN. Paid cash so that I wouldn't have it on my credit card.

I really liked knowing the THC and CBD contents, but was appalled at how much child-proof retail packaging there is for each 3.5gms. The containers are hard plastic and big enough to hold a half oz or more. This is also significantly more expensive than my prior blackmarket purchases.

The material, dried flower, is much drier than I like. I suppose that that makes it easier to have exact weights and known THC contents. Fortunately I brought Boveda packs with me, which I couldn't get delivered to my remote place here the last time I visited.

I'm now up at my quite remote place on the Strait of Belle Isle, and have more than sampled both strains. Plus I have four other strains, two of which I carried across the border the last time I came up and two that I bought by looking on line at WeedMaps for the nearest city--300 miles away from here, which I needed to go to anyway.

I like legalization! On the other hand, we just had a severe snowstorm that blew 130K/nearly 80MPH. Lost power and internet for one day and four days respectively. On the worst day it was too scary to get stoned--which is saying something for me!

Edison is Organigram... I wouldn't smoke their crap if it was free. We have an ongoing lawsuit against them for spraying banned pesticides on a mouldy cannabis crop in which they then sold to cancer patients like my mother! Legal cannabis isn't better! Don't believe everything they say!

 

[ginolicious]

That’s good to know about Edison. I was going to try them out on my next batch of ordering. Lol. Thanks for the tip. @Manity

 

[pakalolo]

I really liked knowing the THC and CBD contents, but was appalled at how much child-proof retail packaging there is for each 3.5gms. The containers are hard plastic and big enough to hold a half oz or more. This is also significantly more expensive than my prior blackmarket purchases.

Is this packaging different from the medical packaging? When I visited the C-stores in Newfoundland the 3.5g, 7g, and 15g sizes all seemed to use the same plastic container, which makes sense to me. I'm not fond of them since they seem to allow the product to dry out, although that's not necessarily a bad thing for vaping. I had one jam up on me and I had to pry the top off with a screwdriver.

StatsCan just released a small limited survey which showed that shortages have caused a price increase—but not as much for black market as for my new dealer the government.