Can anyone suggest best microdosing options for around 0.025g

[fearlessdawg]

Hi,

I have been looking for options for microdosing and struggling to figure out what may be best for me.

I am deaf.
Can only vape outdoors (UK weather)
Medical user. Looking to microdose around 0.025 per session.

I have a V3 Pro, but find it incredibly inconsistent and looking for something which I can rely on and know exactly what it will give each use.

I did try a Vapman click, but I cannot feel the click, and couple with outdoor use and varying weather, I am struggling to get results with it, so looking to try something new.

I have been wondering if a Dynavap M7 (told the clicks can be quite tactile on Dynavaps) and the Ispire wand. I know you can reduce the bowl size to 0.05g, but would loading that to only 0.025 still work ok?

Does anyone have other options?

Many thanks.

 

[Ralph]

Anvil or Tornado!!!!!!!!!

 

[fearlessdawg]

Anvil or Tornado!!!!!!!!!

Are these not both hard hitters? I kinda of use my herb for the medicinal benefits. I am not looking to be baked. Or maybe I am looking at this wrong? I am not super skilled on all this.

 

[Pib]

If you don't just use CBD, you'll get a high even with small amounts, it may not last as long, but you'll still have a short rush and be half baked. The delivery device doesn't matter, whether hard or gentle. The question is what medical benefits you are looking for, CBD usually does a good job, CBG is also supposed to be great.

 

[fearlessdawg]

If you don't just use CBD, you'll get a high even with small amounts, it may not last as long, but you'll still have a short rush and be half baked. The delivery device doesn't matter, whether hard or gentle. The question is what medical benefits you are looking for, CBD usually does a good job, CBG is also supposed to be great.

I currently use balanced strains. I did try some CBD on its own and mixed, but not a nice taste at all. Not really a fan of purchasing CBD from random websites, so can only use whats on offer with the clinic I am with.

I can get what I am looking for via the V3 Pro... sometimes. It's the inconsistancy of it that is the issue. My thinking is that a manual vape with something like the wand, could offer that consistancy that I am needing.

 

[Knewt]

Are these not both hard hitters? I kinda of use my herb for the medicinal benefits. I am not looking to be baked. Or maybe I am looking at this wrong? I am not super skilled on all this.

I use my Tornado on a J hook as a micro-doser. I torch heat and take small puffs as I go. I ignore the clicks and go by taste.

 

[Pib]

The Vapman would also be good for small quantities, but the station costs quite a bit, otherwise just manually fired. Very small quantities are always difficult to vaporize properly, so I mix with CBD strains to increase the quantity. The Vapman delivers very smooth hits, so maybe have a look at it.

 

[fearlessdawg]

The Vapman would also be good for small quantities, but the station costs quite a bit, otherwise just manually fired. Very small quantities are always difficult to vaporize properly, so I mix with CBD strains to increase the quantity. The Vapman delivers very smooth hits, so maybe have a look at it.

Yes, I did try a Vapman click as mentioned. Unfortunately struggling with it as cannot hear click and timing varies a lot due to having to use outdoors and varying weather conditions and temperature.

 

[hotmeals]

I agree that the Vapman's bowl design is probably the best around for microdosing as small as you want. Vaponic is another great microdoser, but if you're primarily vaping outdoors and want the ease and repeatability of a temp indicator and/or induction, Dynavap is certainly a great option also IMO. It will definitely handle 0.025g loads fine. A full electronic non manual vape may even be a better fit, to reduce the impact of ambient conditions further, but I don't know of any good suggestions for loads that small.

 

[maremaresing]

I have a V3 Pro, but find it incredibly inconsistent and looking for something which I can rely on and know exactly what it will give each use.

I can get what I am looking for via the V3 Pro... sometimes. It's the inconsistancy of it that is the issue. My thinking is that a manual vape with something like the wand, could offer that consistancy that I am needing.

Could you describe what the inconsistency is with the v3 pro?
Do you vape the whole .025 in one go, or break it up into smaller hits?
Do you use dosing caps?
What temperature settings do you use? (The newer generation of V3 Pro that I currently use runs hotter, so I'm using 370-375F for high temp hits.)

I understand the desire to get a different vaporizer, but believe the V3 Pro is actually a great choice for your needs. I don't have full hearing loss, but like it's visual and tactile indicators when I don't want to take off my headphones or are in loud areas. Personally, it's consistent results are one of it's strong suits that make me reach for it when I'm only interested in medication and not ritual or messing around.

That said, I use dosing caps exclusively. This gives the following benefits:

-Adds Conduction heating to the Convection heating via heat collected in the metal pod. This hybrid heating helps wring the effects out of the material, particularly with something like CBD that likes higher temps. A lot of totally pure convection vaporizers give hit or miss results for me that adding a bit of hybrid heating fixes.
-Gives a "bottleneck" for the heat via the controlled and smaller inlet/outlet screens in the dosing pod. .025 is just a very small amount of ground herb. In convection vaporizers I run into issues with the hot air flowing past the herb, giving hotter hits with inconsistent effects. The Vaporgenie Bat mod I created utilizes something similar by relocating the "oven"into the the connecting collar.
-Decreased oven size. By placing this small amount into a small dosing cap where it has nowhere to go and less volume overall, I see a more compete extraction off of less material.

I'll dust off my old microdosing scale tonight and load up some dosing caps with exactly .025 and see how that treats me, to ensure the above advice is correct.

 

[mazinho420]

I agree that capsules should help, but I personally recommend Dynavap for its healing effects.

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

As far as manual heating with a torch is concerned, the weather will be an issue. The vapman is probably the most weatherproof of all.

The Vaponic and the dynavap both have their bowl and thermal layer more exposed to the wind and outdoor temperature. I find the vapman to be the most consistent of all on varying conditions.

How long have you been using the click ? The OG vapman doesn't have a temp indicator and yet it is a much loved vape. You just have to learn how to heat it in varying conditions.

An enclosed design such as in most battery powered vapes should fit better the outdoor use.

 

[SlickHenry]

I'd reiterate what has been said about the Vapman as probably the best microdoser. I'd even suggest not to bother with the click version, which has the larger bowl and click.

The Vapman 2.0 is available or see if you can find an older model or second to save money. They all function the same so you are not compromising on the experience. You can also load tiny amounts of material and it will just work.

With the heating it is fully manual but you will quickly pick it up. I can also testify it works well outside in UK weather with a simple single flame torch lighter.

Edit: I re-read the original post and see you may already have a Click model. You can still use this without worrying about the click.

My heating recipe is from cold heat for 3 seconds 4 times with a pause of 3 seconds after each torching. Then hit it.
For reheats just apply 3 more seconds and hit. If you want more vapor apply another cycle just making sure to always have the pause and do not heat for more than 3 seconds at a time.

 

[fearlessdawg]

As far as manual heating with a torch is concerned, the weather will be an issue. The vapman is probably the most weatherproof of all.

The Vaponic and the dynavap both have their bowl and thermal layer more exposed to the wind and outdoor temperature. I find the vapman to be the most consistent of all on varying conditions.

How long have you been using the click ? The OG vapman doesn't have a temp indicator and yet it is a much loved vape. You just have to learn how to heat it in varying conditions.

An enclosed design such as in most battery powered vapes should fit better the outdoor use.

I'd reiterate what has been said about the Vapman as probably the best microdoser. I'd even suggest not to bother with the click version, which has the larger bowl and click.

The Vapman 2.0 is available or see if you can find an older model or second to save money. They all function the same so you are not compromising on the experience. You can also load tiny amounts of material and it will just work.

With the heating it is fully manual but you will quickly pick it up. I can also testify it works well outside in UK weather with a simple single flame torch lighter.

Edit: I re-read the original post and see you have the click. You can still use this without worrying about the click. My heating recipe is Initially just heat for 3 seconds 4 times with a pause of 3 seconds after each torching. Then hit it. For reheats just apply 3 more seconds and hit. If you want more vapor apply another cycle just making sure to always have the pause and do not heat for more than 3 seconds at a time.

I think I need to maybe spend a bit more time with the click then before trying something new. Part of the issue is, it's either not getting enough heat and I am getting nothing and having to reheat or going over an combusting. I have been trying to find times, but will try the one listed here and see how it goes.

 

[SlickHenry]

I think I need to maybe spend a bit more time with the click then before trying something new. Part of the issue is, it's either not getting enough heat and I am getting nothing and having to reheat or going over an combusting. I have been trying to find times, but will try the one listed here and see how it goes.

Definitely try the heating I suggested and see how that works. I think the issue maybe that with the Vapman it doesn't produce much visible vapor compared to other vapes. This will also be compounded by the fact you are using tiny amounts of material so definitely will not be getting the clouds.

You should be able to taste the material even if you can't see the vapor. When you open the Vapman to see the bowl you will be able to see the material is darker and therefore you are extracting it.

Other things to look at are the airflow which does effect vapor density and the size of the torch flame (setting the inner blue flame to the same diameter as the mid section metal screen is a good starting point).

 

[MegaChip]

Just want to chime in:

The tempest has a click but more importantly a visual indicator. You can also use it in the wand and I often use it with 0.025g and it still gives you visible clouds. Also nice design and you can customise it to work to your liking. Also MadHeaters is from the UK. Only downside: It is not available till middle of the year

 

[Jess]

Have you considered a tinymight? There’s all kinds of stem options as well. Works great outside.

 

[justcametomind]

I have never microdosed as well as I did on my OG Mighty or Volcano.
On the Mighty, I put 20/30mg on the bottom of a capsule, and put it inside the vape after it has reached max temperature.
Then I hit it and make my 2/3 hits.
On the Volcano I put my dose on the easy valve and turn on the fan, I prefer to use the XL bag and fill it partially (a bit more than 1/3). I think that regular bags (which are 1/3 of an XL bag) are too small to take everything out of your cannabis all at once, even if the load is micro.
Vapman, vaponic, Anvil are nice but work better with 50mg and up, imho for 20/30 milligrams nothing beats a Volcano or a Mighty. Venty is also behind the Mighty because it doesn't have the same conduction power.

 

[fearlessdawg]

Just want to chime in:

The tempest has a click but more importantly a visual indicator. You can also use it in the wand and I often use it with 0.025g and it still gives you visible clouds. Also nice design and you can customise it to work to your liking. Also MadHeaters is from the UK. Only downside: It is not available till middle of the year

I had seen that. It looks really good and the indicator could be a massive plus for me. Maybe overkill for microdosing? Still good to know Something I will keep an eye out for when they restock.

Have you considered a tinymight? There’s all kinds of stem options as well. Works great outside.

I did. I'm just thinking of price. It's around £300 here and worried about dropping something like that. At least with something like the Dynavap or similar they aren't going to break. Also can pick up the wand and an M7XL for under £200 at the moment, so reason I am heavily leaning in that direction.

 

[Old Moderate]

I often weigh out amount in the 0.035 range. I’d go with a capsule for your current POTV device or get a Dynavap halfbowl setup. Easiest would be the B which is already a half bowl. Lightly filled with fluffy fresh ground botanicals would be about 0.025. I can usually feel the clic. Cost is very low.

 

[SlickHenry]

I had seen that. It looks really good and the indicator could be a massive plus for me. Maybe overkill for microdosing? Still good to know Something I will keep an eye out for when they restock.


I did. I'm just thinking of price. It's around £300 here and worried about dropping something like that. At least with something like the Dynavap or similar they aren't going to break. Also can pick up the wand and an M7XL for under £200 at the moment, so reason I am heavily leaning in that direction.

Wand and Dynavap works really well outside. You could also save money by picking up a Dynavap B which has half the bowl size so ideal for microdosing. Personally I think all the different models are essentially the same.

To throw another curveball at you I would strongly recommend the Camouflet Convector over the Dynavap. Much better flavour and cloud production. Works like a dream with the wand outside. All you do is count the flashes when heating and it rips.

They have a great pay what you can deal at the moment too-

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I have the XL and it's my most reached for vape at the moment and the company have great customer service.

 

[Perfect_Speed4069]

I did try a Vapman click, but I cannot feel the click, and couple with outdoor use and varying weather, I am struggling to get results with it, so looking to try something new

It's a shame you don't get on with the Vapman. I am a outside user in the windy/rainy north west UK and don't have a click model, just the original. After a while, even outside, heating gradually becomes instinctive, so long as you have decent lighter (the Vapman ones are fine, as is the Jobon Bullet from AliEx).

You're right, decent CBD is hard to source but these days I mix regular flower with CBD from Ice (Durban Poison and Dom Perignon mostly) and don't mind the taste at all.

Maybe a Convector? No click, all feel, very good on small doses

Tempest is good but not as good as I'd hoped: I find the visual indicator very hard to see without glasses. Vapman remains my primary device these days

Best of luck

 

[zeebudz]

An M7 in half bowl position (0.05 grams) works just fine when it's only half filled.

A Wand or YLL 2.0 or Flare will allow you to dial things in by timing it without having to rely on the clicks. Though you should still be able to feel the clicks if you pay careful attention.

If you are looking for a different metal butane device for a quick micro dose outdoors, it will be more convenient if you avoid anything with a long heat up and cool down (the latter is less important if you have a storage container that it can go in while hot.) The Convector XL fits the bill, VERY quick to heat up & cool down. No click, but super easy in my experience. I've only used it with a torch, but hearing good reports for using it with a Wand or Flare.

 

[Shit Snacks]

Yeah if you spend more time, you might be able to get more out of what you already have, it takes a lot of time testing to figure out what works best for you consistently, to get the most out of a device, using only it etc.. there are a lot of options to especially if you could use something plugged in, microdosing does not need a specific setup, good vapes can do it well regardless

 

[zeebudz]

Yeah if you spend more time, you might be able to get more out of what you already have, it takes a lot of time testing to figure out what works best for you consistently, to get the most out of a device, using only it etc.. there are a lot of options to especially if you could use something plugged in, microdosing does not need a specific setup, good vapes can do it well regardless

Sage advice.

OP, I loaded 0.02 grams in a POTV Lobo capsule and got a nice extraction. This was 430° F through a stem, I usually use it at home with a dry water piece, and it was a little hot, but part of the process is figuring out what works best for each situation.

Forgot to take a photo when it was loaded in the capsule, but it's really a tiny amount.