Cali cops raid shop, eat edibles, destroy property, point guns at people.

Jared

Cannabis Enthusiast
I couldn't even watch all of this but wow. I don't think I've ever seen anything in the news save for the kid who was shot in Salt Lake City while wearing ear buds and then basically forgotten about that made me this angry. These cops are the definition of human garbage. They break into a legal business, point their guns at everyone and make them get on the floor like it's a fucking bank robbery and then apparently proceed to eat edibles WITH THEIR FIREARMS ON THEIR HIP and then try to destroy the evidence. Absolutely incredible. I personally believe there is not a punishment on the books harsh enough for these cops, yet who wants to bet they don't even see the inside of a jail cell?


Edit: Apparently they DIDN'T EVEN HAVE A WARRANT. Also this was the #1 post on reddit for about 3 minutes (3.4kish upvotes) until the government owned mods removed it. God I hate reddit.
 
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Eschient

Giga-Dweebess
Edited video always raises flags for me, but there's obviously issues there. Frankly I'm too far gone to retain any information ATM, so I'll have to stuff and things about this tomorrow. :freak: :lmao:I know it's not funny, it just deserves way more attention than I have right now, and now I'll remember to check it.
 

Jared

Cannabis Enthusiast
Raise all the flags you want but there is absolutely no situation under ANY circumstances no matter how you frame it that what these cops did was legal. Forget everything else but them eating edibles. It is a federal felony no matter who you are, what you're doing, where you are, or what your intentions were to consume cannabis while in possession of a firearm, and these cops are clearly on video doing just that.
 

Gunky

Well-Known Member
What an outrage! My understanding is that this is pretty much normal behavior for LEO when busting a dispensary. Break all the glass, steal stuff, help themselves to the goods, etc. Who are the bad guys - the patients in wheel chairs trying to get their meds or these fucking arrogant bandits with masks?
 
Shocking. The very definition of stupid fucking pigs. I don't normally talk about the police that way. As a non-American things are a bit different for me. However, that was a disgrace and those officers should no longer be employed as officers imo.
 

herbivore21

Well-Known Member
Is it just me or is this clip 7:10 long???

All humor aside though this is pretty egregious stuff and I would like to think that those officers will be dealing with the pointy end of the law in not too long since that video has seen the light of day!
 

Walter Bishop

Well-Known Member
You have to love the fact that they used a breaching device on a door that was likely open being this was during business hours. It probably said, "Pull," on the side facing the cops. Lol.

What is the point of breaking down an open door? Oh yeah, so they can play G.I. Joe Commando with their body armor, fatigues, helmets, and other militarized hand me downs. What a bunch of jokers.
 

Eschient

Giga-Dweebess
Raise all the flags you want but there is absolutely no situation under ANY circumstances no matter how you frame it that what these cops did was legal. Forget everything else but them eating edibles. It is a federal felony no matter who you are, what you're doing, where you are, or what your intentions were to consume cannabis while in possession of a firearm, and these cops are clearly on video doing just that.

That's exactly the problem, raising flags is all it takes to establish reasonable doubt. Edited video like this always reminds me of that Simpson's episode where Homer was accused of assaulting the babysitter and does the Hard Copy interview to clear his name.

It certainly looks bad, but thanks to the edits I can't see where these items came from, so it could be argued that they'd been there for a while and someone broke out some protein bars or something. Them simply talking about and standing around edibles, which they could be logging into evidence, doesn't establish that is what they are eating. Reading the packaging of what you are eating isn't an indication of anything either - the contents of eggs haven't changed in my lifetime, yet I still read the box when I've got nothing better to do while creaming the butter and sugar.

The manner in which this video was edited, it's designed to paint a picture and it's a suggestive picture. It could be an entirely factual picture, it could be exactly what it implies, but it really does only imply. Then when you consider that the raw footage was requested and denied by the reporting site those nagging questions matter a little more to me.

Trust me, I'm pulling for Sky High and have next to no faith in Law Enforcement on this, but I've also got next to no faith in the justice system or the media. A Lawyer's job is to sell me their version of the truth and I really feel like someone is trying to sell me something.
 

Kief

Medicated
This makes me so angry, I feel the need to go beat something or someone with a big stick until I can't swing the stick anymore. :goon:

They don't think for one second that there may be some legitimate patients in there just trying to pick up their needed medication... only to have the shit scared out of them, screamed at to lay face down on the cold hard floor, then forced to stay face down on the floor until the invaders deem it safe. Not for one second can they see that it's a legitimate business, the brainwashed pigs only see a deadly drug house.

You have to love the fact that they used a breaching device on a door that was likely open being this was during business hours. It probably said, "Pull," on the side facing the cops. Lol.
IME, most dispensary doors are locked electronically or have a security guard attached to them. Assuming the door was locked, did the invaders try knocking first?
 

Gunky

Well-Known Member
I don't think the edits are significant, given all the bad behavior displayed which is not eroded in the least by the edits. Dispensaries are businesses in CA. They close at 7 pm typically. There are plenty of hours to raid a dispensary when the place isn't full of customers. Breaking down the door during business hours with lots of customers inside and going in with guns drawn - completely wrong. There is no justification for it and the film edits don't change that. Destroying property, breaking the place up - wrong. That female cop discussing how she almost kicked the wheel chair patient in her 'nob'. The edits don't affect that. They behaved like a bunch of vandals and gave little or no consideration to the safety of the customers. These clips are of a piece with other video of dispensary raids in CA that I have seen.
 

Jared

Cannabis Enthusiast
@Eschient

I'm not sure what you think could be missing that could possibly make these officers actions OK. Right now to me you're sounding exactly like a police chief who after viewing their officer beat someone to death because they didn't lick his boots enough says that we need to not let the video cloud our judgement or something. Sure it may be presented in a way to make them look extra bad - but guess what - that's how they acted. It doesn't matter what is missing to me it matters what we see. The only thing in my mind that would make this okay is if it turned out to be a scene from the upcoming Batman movie or something.

There is absolutely nothing in the world that they could have edited out of this video that would make me feel better about what these officers did. They're on camera destroying cameras lol...if you can seriously somehow justify that I would like to buy a ticket to your mental gymnastics performance please. I was found guilty of cannabis possession when it was never in my possession at any point in time and the person I was with even admitted it was him. A 5k lawyer couldn't get me off of the charge, yet these cops who are ON VIDEO with witnesses breaking the law shouldn't be prosecuted because parts of the video may have been removed?

Edit: Also I bet if these were regular citizens and not guys with uniforms you wouldn't be so reserved in your judgement. That's just a guess though and I don't know you so maybe you would, but I doubt it.
 
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Jared,

Eschient

Giga-Dweebess
@Eschient

I'm not sure what you think could be missing that could possibly make these officers actions OK. Right now to me you're sounding exactly like a police chief who after viewing their officer beat someone to death because they didn't lick his boots enough says that we need to not let the video cloud our judgement or something. Sure it may be presented in a way to make them look extra bad - but guess what - that's how they acted. It doesn't matter what is missing to me it matters what we see. The only thing in my mind that would make this okay is if it turned out to be a scene from the upcoming Batman movie or something.

There is absolutely nothing in the world that they could have edited out of this video that would make me feel better about what these officers did. They're on camera destroying cameras lol...if you can seriously somehow justify that I would like to buy a ticket to your mental gymnastics performance please. I was found guilty of cannabis possession when it was never in my possession at any point in time and the person I was with even admitted it was him. A 5k lawyer couldn't get me off of the charge, yet these cops who are ON VIDEO with witnesses breaking the law shouldn't be prosecuted because parts of the video may have been removed?

Edit: Also I bet if these were regular citizens and not guys with uniforms you wouldn't be so reserved in your judgement. That's just a guess though and I don't know you so maybe you would, but I doubt it.

I am always reserved in my judgment. I fail to see how not screaming bloody murder over half a story makes me sound like anyone who expects my boots licked. When you jump to conclusions, you start doing things like accusing total strangers of things like

1. Saying their actions are ok, which I never did, I said the actions you specifically stated I address MAY be out of context.

2. Stating that my valid opinion and lingering questions is somehow on par with someone not caring about watching someone get beaten to death.

I don't particularly care how wound up it gets you, your emotions are your right, but don't come accusing me of heinous acts against humanity simply because I want the whole story before I deign to pass judgment on people or a situation I was not involved in. I'm a passive person, but I am not going to let other people emotionally bully me into internet lynch mobs. I'm too old for that shit.
 

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
@Eschient

I'm not sure what you think could be missing that could possibly make these officers actions OK. Right now to me you're sounding exactly like a police chief who after viewing their officer beat someone to death because they didn't lick his boots enough says that we need to not let the video cloud our judgement or something. Sure it may be presented in a way to make them look extra bad - but guess what - that's how they acted. It doesn't matter what is missing to me it matters what we see. The only thing in my mind that would make this okay is if it turned out to be a scene from the upcoming Batman movie or something.

There is absolutely nothing in the world that they could have edited out of this video that would make me feel better about what these officers did. They're on camera destroying cameras lol...if you can seriously somehow justify that I would like to buy a ticket to your mental gymnastics performance please. I was found guilty of cannabis possession when it was never in my possession at any point in time and the person I was with even admitted it was him. A 5k lawyer couldn't get me off of the charge, yet these cops who are ON VIDEO with witnesses breaking the law shouldn't be prosecuted because parts of the video may have been removed?

Edit: Also I bet if these were regular citizens and not guys with uniforms you wouldn't be so reserved in your judgement. That's just a guess though and I don't know you so maybe you would, but I doubt it.

I am always reserved in my judgment. I fail to see how not screaming bloody murder over half a story makes me sound like anyone who expects my boots licked. When you jump to conclusions, you start doing things like accusing total strangers of things like

1. Saying their actions are ok, which I never did, I said the actions you specifically stated I address MAY be out of context.

2. Stating that my valid opinion and lingering questions is somehow on par with someone not caring about watching someone get beaten to death.

I don't particularly care how wound up it gets you, your emotions are your right, but don't come accusing me of heinous acts against humanity simply because I want the whole story before I deign to pass judgment on people or a situation I was not involved in. I'm a passive person, but I am not going to let other people emotionally bully me into internet lynch mobs. I'm too old for that shit.

Please don't make negative comments about someone else's character or post your reaction if someone comments on yours. Personal remarks are likely to get you in trouble with our Be Nice rule. You can send each other all the PMs you want, or perhaps a better solution is to ignore each other. Please stick to discussing the incident and not those commenting on the incident.
 
pakalolo,

Kief

Medicated
Santa Ana PD Operating Like Mob, Lawsuit Alleges
By: Jeremy Daw June 16, 2015

In the wake of a viral video apparently depicting police officers eating cannabis-infused brownies and smashing surveillance equipment at a Santa Ana, California-based medical marijuana dispensary, several members of the raided collective have filed an explosive lawsuit alleging a shocking pattern of behavior more befitting an organized crime ring than a police department.

According to the complaint filed in the federal Central District of California Monday (and appended below), the mayor of Santa Ana conspired with a corrupt local judge, a handful of local dispensaries, and about a dozen members of the Santa Ana police department to hijack the 2014 ballot and eliminate their competition. The lawsuit filed on behalf of Sky High Holistic and a handful of individuals injured in last month’s raid details a pattern of corruption dating back to June 2014 of last year.

The raid garnered national media attention after a video caught by a surveillance camera at Sky High Holistic went viral online, showing the Santa Ana police officers apparently consuming marijuana brownies onsite and denigrating collective member Marla James, who is an amputee. One of the raiding officers can be heard expressing a wish to kick James, who was present during the raid but did nothing to resist, “in her fucking nub.” The officers can also be seen destroying surveillance equipment installed at the dispensary in advance of their most objectionable behavior — but apparently they missed a hidden camera.

The raid had its genesis in a pair of competing Santa Ana initiatives which appeared on the November 2014 ballot, Measure BB and Measure CC. Measure CC, despite its designation, actually qualified for the ballot first, in 2013. Brought by a group of citizens in support of the city’s medical marijuana dispensaries, CC sought to regulate the city’s dispensaries without shutting any down; by contrast, Measure BB was brought to ballot through the vote of the Santa Ana City Council and included a provision capping the number of dispensaries in the city and providing for a “permit lottery” to determine which collectives could stay open. Both initiatives won more than 50% of the vote in the 2014 election, but Measure BB won the greater number of votes — resulting in the city-backed initiative going into effect instead of the citizen initiative.

That’s a pretty standard outcome in the world of California politics; but if the allegations in Monday’s lawsuit are correct, the way that the Measure BB proponents edged out their competition is nothing short of criminal. The suit alleges that even while the Measure BB campaign was underway, an unidentified employee of the BB campaign approached several dispensary operators in the area to solicit payments of $25,000 cash in support of the city initiative in exchange for a guaranteed spot in the dispensary permit “lottery.” Several of the dispensaries which supported Measure BB, including one in which Santa Ana mayor Miguel Pulido had a financial stake, won permits through the Measure BB lottery.

Sky High Holistic did not win, so last month Santa Ana officers raided it. That raid, the lawsuit alleges, evidences a pattern of excessive force designed to punish not only the collective but also a number of unaffiliated sympathizers. Officers pulled their firearms on Marla James, who is bound in a wheelchair, and kept her in a stress position for the duration of the raid despite her repeated objections of escalating pain. The lawsuit also alleges that one of the Santa Ana officers tackled bystander Matt Chou, who was seen observing the actions at the dispensary but had no affiliation with it.

The lawsuit alleges not only extrajudicial punishment without due process — a violation of the Fourteenth Amendment to the US Constitution — but also illegal targeting of Sky High by government officials in violation of section 1983 of the 42nd chapter of the US code, a law passed during the Civil Rights era to prevent illegal targeting of marginalized groups at the hands of corrupt local officials.

Read the lawsuit here:
Pot-Shop-Lawsuit
 

macbill

Oh No! Mr macbill!!
Staff member
In my opinion, it happens all over. That it reached the light of day is the exception, not the rule.
 
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