Blackthoven said:
So here's the low-down...
The case you showed me is quite intense! But, I've picked out this case for now:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3756961&sku=A107-1114
Which is MATX case, I didn't look through all of them but this one is nice
. Decisions at this point are not final... As for Memory/Ram I've heard Crucial is pretty good, so I went with them and I'm looking at a dual 4096MB, 1066MHz. I'm not too sure if these are good though, or if there will be any compatibility issues...
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=3356613&sku=C19-6044
Regarding GPUs, I was debating between Radeon HD and Nvidia, however, I like the SLi idea so I'll most likely try one of the GTX series, using the fan you recommended, and using WD as my hard drive supplier. I think 1TB is far more than enough and I couldn't even imagine filling half that space, but I couldn't resist so:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=5659779&sku=TSD-1000EARS
As far as the CPU is concerned, I'm probably going to stick with the motherboard and i5 processor which I previously referenced.
The GTX 460 requires a minimum of 450W, and taking possible SLi into consideration I was looking at this PSU:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4362115&Sku=O261-2018
Mainly because it's cheap
, but it's not 750W only 700W. That doesn't seem like a significant difference, but I'm afraid I'll end up buying this one and next generation GPUs will need more than I can provide with this PSU. Then again I could always just buy another one if that were to happen, and that would be sometime from now, I imagine. So with that in mind maybe I should just get a better quality lower wattage PSU:
http://www.tigerdirect.ca/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=6491962&Sku=O261-6322
But now my plans are foiled!
The case I picked only supports 500W power supplies, or up to 500W. And the second PSU I was considering is 600W
EDIT: I take that back, I think they were insinuating that it comes with a 500W PSU
EDIT again: I just have no idea anymore
... Is any case able to hold any PSU?
Yeah, pretty much any psu will fit most cases. the ill say about 98% of them comply with the atx standard of cases. The case youre looking at doesnt have as good of airflow design and layout. the psu being on the bottom like in the one i showed you give the case a lower center of gravity so its more stable cause thepsu is the heaviest part in the pc. the case also takes advantage of the fact that hot air rises so the two 120mm fans exhausting out the top, combined with the 120mm front and 200mm side intakes, will provide ideal airflow over the parts that need it most. the psu actually mounts with the fan facing downwards and draws air through a filter-covered hole in the bottom of the case. the handle is also really nice for transporting. also, that case i dont htink would allow for 200mm fan i linked you to to be mounted on the side.
crucial is good ram company, but you'll want to get ddr3 ram thats rated for a higher speed, or else you'll be limiting your performance noticeably. the ram you're looking at wont perform as well because its only running at 1000 or so mhz instead of 1600mhz, so quite the difference in games especially. Speed is more important than capacity in most cases, at least when you're going past 4GB, most games dont even use 2. The importance of your ram speed not bottlenecking your CPU is definitely worth the $,
same goes for the hard drives. as i mentioned, the WD green drives are lower power, slower access. they do this by spinning at 5600(ithink) rpms instead of the 7,200rpms of most desktop drives. The WD blue or especially black editions are better for you to install Windows and your games on because things will load a lot faster, from windows itself to your browsers, any program or game. so definitely get a smaller capactiy drive thats 7,200+rpms to go with that green drive to store media on (since streaming/playing media takes very little transfer speed). The WD raptors run at 10,000rpms so they're even faster still, hence the price. If multiple drive sounds liek too much of a bother for whatever reason, i'd just get one of those 640gb black ed drives and use it for everything.
as far as GPUs go, SLi is nvidia exclusive. ATI.... er, AMD now days, has an equivalent for multi-gpu which is called crossfire. if you want to go ATI i would suggest getting one of those instead, or just get a motherboard with a single PCI-E x16 slot and not worry about the higher wattage PSU either. I personally have never bothered with multi-GPU setups in my own PCs.
Oh, also, if that case does come with a PSU, its more than likely garbage. The only cases that may come with decent PSUs are Antecs, since theyre mainly known for their PSUs. But i think their microATX case selection is limited. Of course, a microATX motherboard will fit in a mid or even full ATX case, it will just look kinda silly.
Well i think i answered all yours ?s for now, if not just let me know.
*edit*
thought i should explain a bit more abou the PSUs. The ones that come with cases, and other garbage PSUs that you'll see for cheap that still have decent wattage ratings are no good because they dont provide enough amps for high end GPUs. The +12v amps are whats important. They are listed on the sticker on the side of the PSU, and usually in the detailed specs somewhere. Some cases have one big 12v rail, and some have multiples that work together. Ideally you should have 60+ combined amps on the 12v, whether its on one rail or multiple, just add them together 9they will be listed as +12vA, +12vB, +12vC, or numerically).
And dont worry too much about futureproofing for higher wattage demanding GPUs. they've kinda leveled off, and after a GPU has been out for a while they usually come out with lower wattage versions. but most PSUs do work better when being ran at less than 80% of their max output, so having a PSU with more watts than you need is a good idea in that way, it will be more efficient and probably last longer. not worth dumping a ton of money into tho if you're on a tight budget. 550w minimum for single GPU setups, 700w could work fine for sli, depends on amps mainly.