Gear Bubbleman Trinity Tank

[PPN]

Hi, I received the XL but I'm hesitating to use it since the reports here, I'm very low with oïl and don't want to waste even a 0.1, the small TT was pretty good for me but the Veco I recently got seems to fit my need very well.

If the issue is coming from the coil can I only wait for them (I have ordered a 1.5mm replacement coil with my XL)?

My order was placed at TeamGreenOnline in UK.

 

[nosmoking]

@Roth @florduh i have new coils coming late Feb of this month I think it would work with the issues you guys are having.

We are tweaking our assembly procedure and i know it will be an improvement.

Pm me your order numbers and I’ll get the new prototype coils out to you soon as I get them in.

What is different about these coils? How are they going to handle flooding issues? I am using the 1.5mm heater now with a "sauce" I made and I had to lower my settings down to 9.5 watts at 330 because it was so thin the higher heat led to almost instant flooding up the chimney. It seems to be working good now but I have to make sure I do the cool down hits to completely eliminate flooding.

One thing about cool down hits that did not hit me until this weekend is that many people are probably like me and don't fully understand what a cool down hit is. We should have had @SamuraiSam post one of his old videos where he explains how to take cool down hits on the herc and why. So for weeks I have been doing cool down hits but often pulling hard, sometimes harder than I would for a regular hit. Part of me was thinking if I pulled harder I would not need to pull as long. Eventually I found this is counter productive for cool down hits. Your cool down hit should not be forceful and should be barely much of a pull. If you pull to hard, your going to pull whatever has not gone solid up the chimney or into it at least which will cause flooding and possible clogging. A cool down hit is a long slow draw to pull in outside air. The length of your hit is going to be dependent on how many consecutive hits you have done as well as the temp of the ambient air around you. For instance, I was skiing in 30F weather yesterday and the first couple hits rewuired almost no cool down hits because the ambient temp had the product prechilled but once the tank was warmed up a cool down hit was definetly required but 4-5 seconds seemed fine. Driving home in my cozy sedan with an ambeint temp of 70ish was a completely different experience. Every hit required cool down hits and for much longer.

If your pulling warmish air in the tank, your going to have much longer cool down hits then say someone in Washington State where I suspect its cold as fuck usually.

After all my experiences with the Trinity and Trinity XL I would not recommend or use this cart for distillates anymore unless the new coil design really does make a big difference. I only plan on using the Trinity XL cart for more solid concentrates with maybe 1 or 2 drops of terps.

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

@nosmoking Thats the thing we get reports of the tank working perfectly on distillate and other oils. We are trying to figure this out on why its doing this by collecting all the info we can to maybe find a clue that correlates the issue some are having.


The new coils are just different manufacturing process we are currently developing to further increase accuracy of assembly that.

We are not sure if it will fix some of the issues we are having but it looks like it should greatly reduce it or hopefully completely eliminate it.

 

[nosmoking]

@nosmoking Thats the thing we get reports of the tank working perfectly on distillate and other oils. We are trying to figure this out on why its doing this by collecting all the info we can to maybe find a clue that correlates the issue some are having.


The new coils are just different manufacturing process we are currently developing to further increase accuracy of assembly that.

We are not sure if it will fix some of the issues we are having but it looks like it should greatly reduce it or hopefully completely eliminate it.

I think it has to do with what is added to these oils or distillates. Who knows what is in half of this stuff? I just had Kings Klear carts and the shit just ran through the Trinity XL like it was a straw. Just filled it up, sat it on the table (not on a mod) and next thing I know the oil is pouring out on the shelf like the Trinity is supposed to be some sort of oil fountain. This material also seems to flood my Amigo L9 and has been getting on my lips. Luckily it was only 1 gram but its shit and going in the bin.

Tonight I am going to squish some AG and put some into an XL cart with the 1.5mm holes. I am thinking uncut no terps added.

 

[Justpassedu]

@nosmoking Thats the thing we get reports of the tank working perfectly on distillate and other oils. We are trying to figure this out on why its doing this by collecting all the info we can to maybe find a clue that correlates the issue some are having.


The new coils are just different manufacturing process we are currently developing to further increase accuracy of assembly that.

We are not sure if it will fix some of the issues we are having but it looks like it should greatly reduce it or hopefully completely eliminate it.

When or will you ever be fixing your og trinity tanks the smaller ones ? Lost so much oil bc it is either sputtering out through the mp or when i open it , it looks to be collecting in the air path and than goes to waste as i have to clean it. Don't mean to be a debby downer but i always wanted to try a trinity tank and never had this issue with my other tanks. Being in a non legal state , concentrates are very pricey to waste.

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

When or will you ever be fixing your og trinity tanks the smaller ones ? Lost so much oil bc it is either sputtering out through the mp or when i open it , it looks to be collecting in the air path and than goes to waste as i have to clean it. Don't mean to be a debby downer but i always wanted to try a trinity tank and never had this issue with my other tanks. Being in a non legal state , concentrates are very pricey to waste.

If this new manufacturing process works, we will most likely roll it out on the smaller trinity tanks. Time will tell if demand is there for the smaller ones.

@nosmoking thats the thing we are trying to figure out, people are reporting it working with distillate and terps but some are saying no it doesnt. This is what drives us crazy because we cant find similarities in the ones that dont work. Even in your statement you say the oil doesnt work in other tanks as well. So im stuck scratching my head and hoping this new manufacturing technique will fix it.

 

[SamuraiSam]

For the HTE, 30-40% terpene, thin oils that I tried to use in the Trinity, it was obvious the tank was designed for use with much, much thicker oils. There is too much thin oil feeding into the wick and unvaporized oil being drawn up the mouthpiece. We're attempting to work with a vape manufacturer that will customize the feed hole diameter down to our size which they have worked out a scale for optimal feed rate if we measure the viscosity of the oil with a viscometer. Perhaps that's some of the issue with using the Trinity with a wide variety of different thickness oils. I am trying to find some good quality carbon-scrubbbed D9 distillate, which is VERY thick which I can mix with the HTE I extract and hopefully come up with a thicker blend that'll work well in the Trinity.

I think it has to do with what is added to these oils or distillates. Who knows what is in half of this stuff? I just had Kings Klear carts and the shit just ran through the Trinity XL like it was a straw.

Distillate is cut with all kinds of shit as you find it in prefill cartridges. If it's thin its probably cut with PG or PEG or something. Quality 90+% distillate is very thick and hard. If it comes in a syringe, it takes significant force and time to squeeze out. Very thick shit.

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Hey guys i have made adjustments to the XL coils and have sent @nosmoking one to test out. I have 2 more coils if anyone wants to test out, send me pm. I want to point out this is designed for oils that are very viscous.

 

[Tomfool86]

Do you plan on any other options on the reg size trinity? I'm working on a review of the smaller tank, I'm not having any issues with either of the tester tanks. I do notice that the thick mixes I tried took a bit more heat to get the hit I wanted. Was kind of hoping for a couple options on feed/wick hole size. Can't really find any problem with my tanks other than that.

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Do you plan on any other options on the reg size trinity? I'm working on a review of the smaller tank, I'm not having any issues with either of the tester tanks. I do notice that the thick mixes I tried took a bit more heat to get the hit I wanted. Was kind of hoping for a couple options on feed/wick hole size. Can't really find any problem with my tanks other than that.

No options for the small trinity tanks.

But the trinity XL is getting another coil for a total 3 coils as an option.

 

[PPN]

@THC SCIENTIFIC I'm sorry but I still not tried the TT XL, I'm running out of concentrates in large enough amount to fill it but it will be done soon. I got the 1.5mm coil too, which is the best to start with?

 

[srama21]

Do the trinity or trinity XL fit with any of the bubblers?

 

[bdmonkeyj3w]

sup guys! been a while since ive been on fc, used to hang around the ol' persei thread before i jumped on the mod team over at r/waxpen. I broke my yearly nibbler xl and i finally ordered a couple trinity xl tanks. Gary was awesome and tossed 3 upcoming prototypes my direction, and im in the middle of testing the first.

I started with the 1.2 mm cause i have some runnier 80/20 on hand. Gary told me i could run it 19-23w for a kick in the pants, and holy shit does it ever. ive used the small trinity carts for 6 months and its a different beast. idk if ill continue that or not, but i never experienced a disty cart rip like that. it is constricting/clogging a lil with the high wattage, but may be mitigated with technique- time will tell. im hoping to test the gambit over the weekend but will be attempting to remember to keep updating this thread and answering q's!

hit me up on waxpen (monkeylogic42) if i leave the crowd hangin here, i had to redo my password to get back here its been that long. Glad to say hi to those that are around here still!

 

[bdmonkeyj3w]

had a leak in the 1.2mm coil when she was gettin passed around at world sesh, had it pegged at 17w and didnt give any instructions, but its runnin fine om the beach right now!

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

Just to point out he’s using the updated coils @nosmoking has been sent a few as well to test.

 

[CastIronHits]

I purchased the Trinity XL and noticed an intimidate issue. A metal fragment left over from the tapping process was left directly in the air-path. I contacted W9 for a replacement which has taken an unacceptable amount of time. 23 days after my purchase date I received replacement parts WITH THE SAME ISSUE. I currently have a tank which is useless to me due to the danger of inhaling the fragments. Side note, I also purchased the AC3 and didn't receive the larger o-ring set for the glass globe.

Images of the original and replacement caps. https://imgur.com/a/sD5hg

Original purchase date : March 5
Original received : March 10
Contacted customer service : March 10
Customer service response: March 12
Replacement parts ordered : March 15
Replacement shipped : March 20
Replacements received : March 28

 

[bdmonkeyj3w]

I purchased the Trinity XL and noticed an intimidate issue. A metal fragment left over from the tapping process was left directly in the air-path. I contacted W9 for a replacement which has taken an unacceptable amount of time. 23 days after my purchase date I received replacement parts WITH THE SAME ISSUE. I currently have a tank which is useless to me due to the danger of inhaling the fragments. Side note, I also purchased the AC3 and didn't receive the larger o-ring set for the glass globe.

Images of the original and replacement caps. https://imgur.com/a/sD5hg

Original purchase date : March 5
Original received : March 10
Contacted customer service : March 10
Customer service response: March 12
Replacement parts ordered : March 15
Replacement shipped : March 20
Replacements received : March 28

yo man! those pieces are not in the vapor path. i see the frustrstion of gettin burred up pieces, but that spot is just the collar around the heater tube. if you pick em off you should be alright. put the tank together, unscrew, rinse with alc and you should be good to go. again, those pieces do not interfere with the vapor path.

 

[CastIronHits]

yo man! those pieces are not in the vapor path. i see the frustrstion of gettin burred up pieces, but that spot is just the collar around the heater tube. if you pick em off you should be alright. put the tank together, unscrew, rinse with alc and you should be good to go. again, those pieces do not interfere with the vapor path.

W9Tech didn't disagree with that explanation, I guess it's just semantics. As you said it is the collar which the tube screws into. If I had missed the piece and screwed in the heater the fragment could have easily dialoged and entered the air-path. In the air path or one simple oversight away from entering it are the same in my book. I shouldn't have to double check the manufacturing to this degree.

If you are happy deburring and polishing your pieces instead of expecting the manufacturers to do so, be my guest, but that expectation doesn't work on my end.

It also does nothing to explain the delays in responding to me and not ensuring the replacement did not have the exact same issue as the original.

Their working on it so we'll see what happens but I'm not comfortable using this until they resolve the issue. Cheers.

 

[invertedisdead]

Anybody still rocking the Trinity? Been wanting to try one with some re-pressed rosin sauce.

 

[Danksta]

Anybody still rocking the Trinity? Been wanting to try one with some re-pressed rosin sauce.

I plan to make carts for trips and shows using the Trinity. However for daily use it requires more effort and supplies (terps) than I'd like to buy on the reg.

I like the Quartz Quest these days when not using a banger.

 

[nosmoking]

@invertedisdead I am considering filling one for this weekend. Thick materials are all that seems to work well in the Trinity so its going to be straigh rosin with maybe a drop or 2 of terps. I am taking the family to an amusement park this weekend so I need something I can use anywhere and I think this is where the Trinity has shown promise in my past experiences.

I cannot get any of the many versions G has sent to me to hold motor oil like consistency. He has sent me several versions but none of them will hold thin oil. There is one he sent me that is supposed to handle water like consistency, however the threading was wrong so I cannot try it.

 

[invertedisdead]

@Danksta @nosmoking thank you for the insight!

They do this rosin sauce where they wrap a chunk of rosin in SS mesh and re-press it at low temps which extracts a terp sauce. That's what I'm wanting to try in a cart; I'm thinking that may be a good viscosity. @nosmoking what thin oils are you using - terped up distillate?

 

[nosmoking]

@invertedisdead Something out of a prefilled cart. Not even sure what this one was this time around. Its not very strong but they never are to me. I just pressed some hash rosin and some flower rosin. I made a rosin coin out of both and they are freezing now. Once frozen to a shatter like form I will break them into small pieces and drop them in the Trinity tank while still cold and brittle. Then I will let the tanks sit at room temp or slighlty warmer for a day and they should be ready to go. I will let you all know.

 

[THC SCIENTIFIC]

The new coils for the trinity xl.

With Stainless mesh to fix leaking issues. Please watch video for other info as well.

 

[Roth]

Might need to place an order for a new coil or two and give them a shot. I loved my Trinity, with the exception of the chimney flooding I was eventually getting. Taste was amazing.

I've been using some prefilled carts for my stealth use and they just don't taste good.