Gear Bubbleman Trinity Tank

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Is this the same as the Kiss Alpha Centauri V3 second generation porous black ceramic wick? Guessing no, but haven't been able to remove intact wick from Trinity Tank. Any chance UP Tech will sell either for DIY frolics? :science:

It is the same wick in our Sirius and Canopus coils we introduced last year in the AC v2 we just changed some small details for the Kiss AC v3 and the Trinity.

Unfortunately we are concentrating on the users who just want to pick up a vape and use it not mess with it.


You can however take apart the AC v3 Sirius and have fun with it. This is as close as we can come to the DIY guys


Rosin is typically considered a dirty oil with the residual plant fats, waxes, proteins, and lipids in the end product. A side effect of not using polarity based hydrocarbon solvents.

What kind of rosin do you use in yours? Flower rosin? Only hash rosin?

I stopped asking what type of oil I am using, i just get the ones i like the taste and add terpenes and im off. Plus im off the Trinity now since im testing the Triton with my line of work you go through extracts real quick and lose track, hell i have stuff at my office thats like 1 year old that i have yet to vape.

Im not picky at all.
 

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It sounds a lot like you want to say it doesn't work well with rosin but don't want to really just say it.

Please dont twist my words. I publicly said it works with rosin. Im speaking for myself. The tanks are sold with rosin by Advesa designed for Rosin and works with Rosin simple as that. You just need to add terpenes to thin it up and allow some time to let it fully mix so as to not produce pressure in the tank.


Does rosin need much terpenes? Raw distillate seems well flavored with 2 drops.

I personally start with 2-3 drops for each gram then go from there if i need more.
 
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It is the same wick in our Sirius and Canopus coils we introduced last year in the AC v2 we just changed some small details for the Kiss AC v3 and the Trinity.

Unfortunately we are concentrating on the users who just want to pick up a vape and use it not mess with it.

You can however take apart the AC v3 Sirius and have fun with it. This is as close as we can come to the DIY guys

Thanks for sharing that.

Already took one apart and used it as an inception coil core. Too messy with sappy concentrate in big-ass RDA. Could work well with nic juice, though.

It seems like there are mixed results being reported. Haven't had much success - but using strictly DIY (from seed). Self- taught - NEVER purchased concentrate. WDIK? :razz:
 

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Thanks for sharing that.

Already took one apart and used it as an inception coil core. Too messy with sappy concentrate in big-ass RDA. Could work well with nic juice, though.

It seems like there are mixed results being reported. Haven't had much success - but using strictly DIY (from seed). Self- taught - NEVER purchased concentrate. WDIK? :razz:

Your doing good but these coils are not that easy to work with they require time to load thats why they work great in the Trinity because it is surrounded with oil.


You will like what we have coming out next. I think you will stop messing with things and just get one to like :lol:
 

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blueriver terps are like 15 bucks a drop. No way I'm spending 45$ just to use these carts not including the cost of the wax.

Actually about $6 per drop priority shipping with signature required included.

Prices have come down a lot since they started manufacturing for retail again. Very competitive when you take into account that its Cannabis derived and 100% Chemical free.

But we made the tank so that you dont need to add terpenes lets say if you are using co2, or distillate or other extracts that free flow at room temperature.

The only reason Terpenes is added to Rosin is to make it into a sauce so it will work with the Trinity.

If you want to wait a bit more you would like the Triton where it is designed for anything and everything without any addition of terpenes.
 

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With the right material you can even make a rosin "sauce" without added terpenes. It's similar to the BHO process.

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Your doing good but these coils are not that easy to work with they require time to load thats why they work great in the Trinity because it is surrounded with oil.

Thanks for the tip. Can't wait to try the Triton.

With the right material you can even make a rosin "sauce" without added terpenes. It's similar to the BHO process.

Which is (link)?
 

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The terps are way overpriced and the fact that they are derived from cannabis means f**k all. You can get great terp blends for half the price and even those are way overpriced. Using terps derived from cannabis is a senseless waste of good bud, a product designed for superstitious, gullible people with no knowledge of chemistry or pharmacology. The only thing that matters about terps is their purity.
 

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The terps are way overpriced and the fact that they are derived from cannabis means f**k all. You can get great terp blends for half the price and even those are way overpriced. Using terps derived from cannabis is a senseless waste of good bud, a product designed for superstitious, gullible people with no knowledge of chemistry or pharmacology. The only thing that matters about terps is their purity.

Starting material matters, purity as well.

Blue River Terpenes are pure. Nothing else but Terpenes.
 

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As a graduate of MIT with five year-long courses in chemistry, I respectfully disagree. If the terpenes are pure, the source does not matter. Do you have information that I do not? Can you explain why terpenes distilled from an herb other than cannabis are inferior? Pure individual terpenes are quite inexpensive, it is just a matter of combining the correct ones in the correct proportions to recreate the terpene spectrum of a given strain. And don't forget that the main purpose of Blue River and the other, less expensive brands, is simply to thin out the extract. They're a bit if a side show with the extract on the main stage.
 

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As a graduate of MIT with five year-long courses in chemistry, I respectfully disagree. If the terpenes are pure, the source does not matter. Do you have information that I do not? Can you explain why terpenes distilled from an herb other than cannabis are inferior? Pure individual terpenes are quite inexpensive, it is just a matter of combining the correct ones in the correct proportions to recreate the terpene spectrum of a given strain. And don't forget that the main purpose of Blue River and the other, less expensive brands, is simply to thin out the extract. They're a bit if a side show with the extract on the main stage.

I do not disagree about a pure terpene being the same.

The starting materials matter and in this case it’s about the shopper.


A Honda can do the same job as a Bentley which is to get you from point A to point B , how you get there matters and in what is the question that cannabis derived terpenes answers.
 

Gazaam

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The starting materials matter and in this case it’s about the shopper

With respect, you keep making that assertion, but based on what? Have you tested this somehow or are you just guessing? IMHO your car analogy is completely off the mark unless you can tell us exactly how a terp mix extracted from cannabis biomass "gets us there" better than the same terp mix compounded from individual terps derived from other plants. What am I missing here?
 

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With respect, you keep making that assertion, but based on what? Have you tested this somehow or are you just guessing? IMHO your car analogy is completely off the mark unless you can tell us exactly how a terp mix extracted from cannabis biomass "gets us there" better than the same terp mix compounded from individual terps derived from other plants. What am I missing here?

I’m not the extractor nor am I a chemist.

I only retail what I like to us and is considered the best on the market.

You don’t have to purchase the terpenes we retail. There are others on the market but a lot of people like the idea that the terpenes are actually cannabis derived.

It’s like cage free vs organic fed vs organic and cage free. It’s all a preference.

I personally like the fact that I’m using terpenes that are derived from cannabis. It’s a preference I’m willing to pay for.

Believe me it’s hard for People who can recite pi to the 100th digit to understand that normal folk actually don’t go along with logic and we like what we like.
 

Gazaam

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Ok, well thanks for the clarification. Now where getting someahere.The highest I ever got with reciting pi was 67 digits and that was a long long long time ago when I was 20 . But please don't profile me as a geek or someone with no spontaneity for that reason. I've been toking since 1962 when grass first hit the white community in Boston. So I've been around the block a few times and I do know what I am talking about in terms of taste, esthetics and preferences. However, If I were to try these very expensive terpenes, I'd need more of a reason than "we like the idea of them". It is an interesting idea, but as far as I can see it is only an idea. Are there any reviews, write-ups or other info on their effects besides the manufacturer's unsubstantiated claims?
 

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Adding terpenes has two effects.

Taste and to make the oil flow in the tank.

What about the third "effect" namely, effects. IMLE, terpenes modify cannabis' effects significantly.

The terps are way overpriced and the fact that they are derived from cannabis means f**k all. You can get great terp blends for half the price and even those are way overpriced. Using terps derived from cannabis is a senseless waste of good bud, a product designed for superstitious, gullible people with no knowledge of chemistry or pharmacology. The only thing that matters about terps is their purity.

Watch a video on short-path fractional distillation of cannabis concentrates. Terpenes come off in the first fraction, cannabinoids in the next. Both are recovered, not wasted. You'll also see that a much smaller volume of terpenes is produced, which explains the cost of cannabis-derived terpenes somewhat.

As a graduate of MIT with five year-long courses in chemistry, I respectfully disagree. If the terpenes are pure, the source does not matter. Do you have information that I do not? Can you explain why terpenes distilled from an herb other than cannabis are inferior? Pure individual terpenes are quite inexpensive, it is just a matter of combining the correct ones in the correct proportions to recreate the terpene spectrum of a given strain.

Not doubting you, but degrees count for little in anonymous forums.

Theoretically, if terpenes are completely purified, it should be possible to mix dozens of them in various volumes to copy cannabis-derived terpene profiles - it's still impractical. You'd have to settle for only a few of the many terpenes in the plant. Also, nothing is ever completely pure. You'd need to be very careful of contaminants in petroleum-derived terpenes. No need to worry about this with cannabis-derived terpenes added back to decarbed concentrates in the ratios found in the plant.

Still, with care, this approach could produce decent results inexpensively. Judging by disappointment with purified terpenes expressed in numerous posts, it's easier said than done.

Believe me it’s hard for People who can recite pi to the 100th digit to understand that normal folk actually don’t go along with logic and we like what we like.

It's easy to underestimate our sensory perceptions. Remember when CDs first became available? Everyone explained how they must sound so much better than vinyl records, completely ignoring the evidence of our senses telling us they don't. Now we know that the audiophiles were correct all along.
 
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invertedisdead

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it is just a matter of combining the correct ones in the correct proportions to recreate the terpene spectrum of a given strain.

You would need to first actually identify all the terpenes and terpenoids present in that specific cannabis strain, which no one has done and I don't see happening anytime soon. Otherwise you're basically comparing strawberry fruit snacks to a farm fresh strawberry and expecting them to taste the same.

Wheat bread for example is so complicated, its flavor profile has never been successfully recreated.
 

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@Gazaam i am in no way profiling anyone or insulting. I consider myself a nerd a geek somewhat of a hybrid. I understand when your looking at it logically. Sometimes logical answer is not it.


@Accept i understand what your talking about and I didn’t want to comment on something I have not had a chance to study up on.
 

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We designed the tanks to be fully or almost close to factory fresh with 24 hour iso soak in 99% as much as possible.

This means if properly taken care of the tank should last you 5-10 refills and still taste as good on the last day as it did on the first day.


How often do you recommend doing an ISO soak, after every fill? Even if using a clean and pure concentrate like a distillate?
 
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