Boundless Tera

trfe

Well-Known Member
Oh I watched it but wanted to test it out for myself. I found it steady if i didnt touch it while ON my glass piece but if I move it in any way I have to hold it. Also, when I go to take it out, it gets stuck and comes out of the unit itself and stays in the glass piece.

Do you mean I shouldve left that part out of my own review since it was in someone elses?


Side note here. Just had the mouthpiece that the wpa is frictionally attached to come off with the wpa (staing attatched to my glass piece) and my weed dumped out all over my bong. Sooo be careful when you pull it out. Pull it out by the wpa instead of pulling on the unit itself.

Jesus. This has to be some sort of design error.

I agree Jersey!
 

SpudBob

Well-Known Member
O.K. guys if ALL they have to fix is the WPA then I'm stoked. Believe me we will find a way to fix it before Boundless does! Thats a no biggie to me. Find a way to modify the glass mouthpiece with a rubber stopper, or similar-maybe silicone, to adapt to whatever male/female piece you are using. Im sure it will be addressed by BNDLSTECH but most will, probably, do a mod like we did with the elb's/screens in the CF/CFX units.
As far as stir/no stir, we'll have to figure that one out. Try different grinds, packs etc. We'll figure what works best- thats TRUE of all vapes!
If these are the major knocks then I'm impressed. New vape smell is a non-issue to me as long as it burns off with use.
 

abbaba

Member
Sorry but bad news. I had to edit to throw it in there cause i am pretty high right now rofl

It is very slight and only if you stick your nose up to it. I believe its just a new gadget smell.

In fact the more I smell it and handle the device, the more it is dissapaiting.

Edit: after 10 minutes or so of handling and reloading the smell has gone away. It just smells like weed now. So after 2 sessions it's good to go.

Edit: 3 sessions later. It's definitely gone. Now if only the WPA would get better with time too :D
How do you comments profile flavour?
 

PPN

Volute of Vapor
Is there any mention of battery life somewhere (with provided cells)? It was one of the weakest point of the CFV1.0/Swift, I know there is 2 cells now but since the heater seems more powerfull than it's predecessor it will eat more juice.... The Minivap battery pack use 3 cells (18650) and the battery life is around 1 hour, powerfull convection heater need a powerfull battery pack!
 

BigJr48

Well-Known Member
Is there any mention of battery life somewhere (with provided cells)? It was one of the weakest point of the CFV1.0/Swift, I know there is 2 cells now but since the heater seems more powerfull than it's predecessor it will eat more juice.... The Minivap battery pack use 3 cells (18650) and the battery life is around 1 hour, powerfull convection heater need a powerfull battery pack!

A Nitecore D2 external battery charger and another set of 18650's will resolve the problem.
 

KeroZen

Chronic vapaholic
My 30Q's are 15A per Samsung info

It's under-rated by the manufacturer, it's really a 18A cell. The HG2 and VTC6 are over-rated on the other hand, and they are also 18A cells and not 20A. All three can sustain 20A only if you have a mechanism to cut the power once the cell reaches 70°C.

30Q is still my favorite cell at the moment. And it's funnier in pink than the brown LG.

Yes, plastic smell after many burn offs. Hope it fades soon.

I'm really curious about that part. Will we see yet again the bloody polyimide tape somewhere in their design? Is it the same kind of robot fart smell we had in the FlowerMate range?

I really hope they got rid of that crap once for good!

Is there any mention of battery life somewhere (with provided cells)? It was one of the weakest point of the CFV1.0/Swift, I know there is 2 cells now but since the heater seems more powerfull than it's predecessor it will eat more juice....

Actually the CFV also has 2 cells, but it's two 18350 in series, the small ones. We had around 1000mAh of capacity if I recall correctly the numbers.

The CFV2 heater might not be more powerful as the first version was already amongst the power champions on the market (a little known fact, but CFX/CF/CFV are all around 80W peak, so even more than Zion and more than twice as much as Mighty) I don't think they made the new one even more powerful than that, but could be wrong.
 

jerseydvd

Well-Known Member
A Nitecore D2 external battery charger and another set of 18650's will resolve the problem.
For what it’s worth, I find my efest Luc v4 external charger to be much more reliable, and better features than the Nitecore. (For example, you can choose 3 charging speeds on the efest LUC. .5, 1.0, or 2.0 amp.
Charging batteries slower is always better for them heatlthwise and for safety, but wow, if you need a quick charge, the 2.0 setting is FAST!
Both chargers (Nitecore and efest are about $20. Sometimes a bit less, sometimes a bit over)
Tried charging via usb in the Tera last night. Painfully slow. Moved to the charger and things rolled right along.

Yes, get an external charger, and get GENUINE battery cells from on of the places mentioned above. It IS worth it.
Oh, honestly, ANY of the batteries that have been mentioned so far would all work perfectly and keep you happy. Yeah, there are different numbers and ratings, but as most have said, there is no perfect 18650. Gives and takes with each model. Any of the models we mentioned, LG, Samsung, Sony, etc and you’ll be fine. My personal choice is the brown label LG HG2, but everyone has their own preference. Just get one of the good brands from one of those reliable dealers, and you’ll have no worries at all
Do get an external charger. You’ll be glad you did, plus hopefully removeables will become normal and you’ll be ahead of the curve. Also, another FYI, not sure about the Nitecore, but I did test the efest with Grasshopper propriety batteries and it charged those fast and no problem, 4 at a time! So yeah, apparently the LUC will charge non-standard sizes also. That was nice to see.
Morning all! ✌️
Jerseydvd
 
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dtaxx

Well-Known Member
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Arizer stem caps when not in use ;)
 

lookhigh

FC member
LOL in my opinion its the exact opposite in Germany :D!
DHL is truly the fastest and safest (and was owned by the German state in the past, to anybody who cares), while DPD is unflexible and almost dangerous as they leave your stuff, even TVs, right in front of your front door although you are at home :D.
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Different country different service?
Mine still stuck in Gatwick

About the smell and burn offs?

How do you do a burn off in a convection vape? Blow air into the air intake hole underneath.?
Is this just a new smell? Isn't that normal on all new stuff.
I don't care about the smell as long as there is no taste and there should not be with the isolated airpath.
New smell means it is a new thing, like a new car smell some love it some hate it.
 

Just Justin

Well-Known Member
How many burnoffs did you guys do? On another forum people are going nuts because they still smell plastic.
i definitely noticed a smell at first but we've all smelt it before with new vape s, packaging, New silicone, plastic smell and I'm not concerned and it may not be something u "burn off" anyways. My first load was a conduction test, so it was sort of a burn off and my material was pretty much the same when it came out of the chamber after the 5 min auto shut-off with no draws at 356f. There can't be much, if any Conduction going on at the lower temps but there may be more with the S&B Capsules. I did notice a smell and taste, mostly with the swivel mp but it's basically disappeared completely now and the taste is top notch.

I put some serious loads through the Tera, both with the S&B Capsules and without and my results were quite amazing. First off, the Tera a hits like a Conduction vape, in the sense that you get vapor immediately and it's ez to get, unlike some Convection vapes. You don't need to draw long or fast and I get vapor on the first draw and I was getting clouds at 330f! The temp feels right though, maybe a little hotter but it's nothing like the CFV, where you had to use 400f and draw your brains out for vapor. Tera doesn't seem very picky either, how you pack The chamber or grind but I'm gonna do more testing on grinds and amounts today. The draw has improved drastically and there are no air leaks, unlike the CFV. The Tera rips! As I mentioned, the smell has gone away, not exactly sure of the source, most likely just "new" parts/material smell but the flavor is quite amazing now, especiAlly with the glass mp. The glass is hotter and maybe slightly more free flowing but you can basically puff,puff this vape instead of really long draws, which is awesome and the vapor is thick but has been very comfortable and smooth but I didn't go beyond 370f with any of my loads last night.

I probably put in around 7-10 chambers through the Tera, each till the auto shut-off kicked in (5min) between 330f and 370f. Heat up time was fast, probably around 30seconds to 350f. I am charging up again now but I could have got more loads on that charge. My ABV was surprisingly even and pretty well done by 5min and 10 or so draws. Occasionally, the ABV was fresher nearest the edge of the chamber but i never stirred. Filled the chamber loose to the top and after, my material had "shrunk," so I know I'm pulling a lot of ingredients out of my material and that heater has to be a beast! I also had great ABV with the S&B Capsules, which sit just a tad high but the MP's were secure enough magnetically and they worked very nice, although you can't use the "extra" chamber screens with the Capsules and they aren't needed. you can also use those capsules without the tops and just attach it to the end of the mp/screen and they kinda hold on to the Silicone but you have to use a little less material.Looking forward to more testing today!
 

Dynavaper

Karma Farmer
That sounds very reassuring, thank you very much, @Just Justin!

I understand that people are different when it comes to that "new device smell", but I have absolutely no problem with that if it goes away and does not persist. It was the same with the first 2-3 Fury II bowls and even the Mica in my Milaanas and Vapmen smelled a bit at the first heating cycles.

Great, now I am even more looking forward to executing my bad idea on Monday. :)
 

jerseydvd

Well-Known Member
i definitely noticed a smell at first but we've all smelt it before with new vape s, packaging, New silicone, plastic smell and I'm not concerned and it may not be something u "burn off" anyways. My first load was a conduction test, so it was sort of a burn off and my material was pretty much the same when it came out of the chamber after the 5 min auto shut-off with no draws at 356f. There can't be much, if any Conduction going on at the lower temps but there may be more with the S&B Capsules. I did notice a smell and taste, mostly with the swivel mp but it's basically disappeared completely now and the taste is top notch.

I put some serious loads through the Tera, both with the S&B Capsules and without and my results were quite amazing. First off, the Tera a hits like a Conduction vape, in the sense that you get vapor immediately and it's ez to get, unlike some Convection vapes. You don't need to draw long or fast and I get vapor on the first draw and I was getting clouds at 330f! The temp feels right though, maybe a little hotter but it's nothing like the CFV, where you had to use 400f and draw your brains out for vapor. Tera doesn't seem very picky either, how you pack The chamber or grind but I'm gonna do more testing on grinds and amounts today. The draw has improved drastically and there are no air leaks, unlike the CFV. The Tera rips! As I mentioned, the smell has gone away, not exactly sure of the source, most likely just "new" parts/material smell but the flavor is quite amazing now, especiAlly with the glass mp. The glass is hotter and maybe slightly more free flowing but you can basically puff,puff this vape instead of really long draws, which is awesome and the vapor is thick but has been very comfortable and smooth but I didn't go beyond 370f with any of my loads last night.

I probably put in around 7-10 chambers through the Tera, each till the auto shut-off kicked in (5min) between 330f and 370f. Heat up time was fast, probably around 30seconds to 350f. I am charging up again now but I could have got more loads on that charge. My ABV was surprisingly even and pretty well done by 5min and 10 or so draws. Occasionally, the ABV was fresher nearest the edge of the chamber but i never stirred. Filled the chamber loose to the top and after, my material had "shrunk," so I know I'm pulling a lot of ingredients out of my material and that heater has to be a beast! I also had great ABV with the S&B Capsules, which sit just a tad high but the MP's were secure enough magnetically and they worked very nice, although you can't use the "extra" chamber screens with the Capsules and they aren't needed. you can also use those capsules without the tops and just attach it to the end of the mp/screen and they kinda hold on to the Silicone but you have to use a little less material.Looking forward to more testing today!

Nice write up, thanks!
Think i'll pack mine up now and see if the odor is gone. Seems like it produces vapor WAY better and easier than the CFV (which I was very disappointed in BTW) Still, they need to do something abou tthe WPA. I really had planned on using it, and the design really kind of sucks for that component....
I'm very interested in using the capsules as soon as people put them through the tests. Might make this into the microdose unit i NEED for my medication.

Thanks again, looking to hearing more!
Jerseydvd

Where's the best place you've all found to pick up the dosage capsules? Every penny is literally counting for me at this time! Oh, I know it's been mentioned, but the S&B caps hold approx .1?
 

Just Justin

Well-Known Member
That sounds very reassuring, thank you very much, @Just Justin!

I understand that people are different when it comes to that "new device smell", but I have absolutely no problem with that if it goes away and does not persist. It was the same with the first 2-3 Fury II bowls and even the Mica in my Milaanas and Vapmen smelled a bit at the first heating cycles.

Great, now I am even more looking forward to executing my bad idea on Monday. :)
Definetly, people and their tastes/smell vary sooo much but for me, the taste is great now and I think it's only going to get better. I'm a flavor chaser and is why I love convection so much because it lasts longer and tastes fuller/fresher and the Tera has been bringing out the flavors!

Hiya, do you mean it's suitable for mouth to lung tokes, (rather than just direct to lung pulls)?
almost a mouth to lung toke, probably at higher temps or if you get that vapor rolling a bit but it still requires a draw because it's not heating your material, creating vapor, unless your pulling the air through it. I was just surprised to get vapor pretty much immediately and you don't need to take a long draw for some nice clouds. Hope that makes sense. You could puff,puff the CFX like a champ and easily blow vapor rings with that but was mostly conduction but the Get a has been the beastiest and possibly the most powerful portable convection vape i have tried.

I also forgot to mention, the Get a is very comfortable to hold and draw. Very solid and grippy, in either hand. The vape does get warm not it never got hot.

@jerseydvd i was also disappoints with the CFV. Probably the second biggest dissapointmrnt, tied with the mivape. The CFV just felt cheap and didn't hardly produce vapor. The Tera is a HUGE improvment, no pun intended but the build quality and materials are worlds better and the vapor production has been almost insane.
 
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Boden

Aspie polymath
i definitely noticed a smell at first but we've all smelt it before with new vape s, packaging, New silicone, plastic smell and I'm not concerned and it may not be something u "burn off" anyways. My first load was a conduction test, so it was sort of a burn off and my material was pretty much the same when it came out of the chamber after the 5 min auto shut-off with no draws at 356f. There can't be much, if any Conduction going on at the lower temps but there may be more with the S&B Capsules. I did notice a smell and taste, mostly with the swivel mp but it's basically disappeared completely now and the taste is top notch.

I put some serious loads through the Tera, both with the S&B Capsules and without and my results were quite amazing. First off, the Tera a hits like a Conduction vape, in the sense that you get vapor immediately and it's ez to get, unlike some Convection vapes. You don't need to draw long or fast and I get vapor on the first draw and I was getting clouds at 330f! The temp feels right though, maybe a little hotter but it's nothing like the CFV, where you had to use 400f and draw your brains out for vapor. Tera doesn't seem very picky either, how you pack The chamber or grind but I'm gonna do more testing on grinds and amounts today. The draw has improved drastically and there are no air leaks, unlike the CFV. The Tera rips! As I mentioned, the smell has gone away, not exactly sure of the source, most likely just "new" parts/material smell but the flavor is quite amazing now, especiAlly with the glass mp. The glass is hotter and maybe slightly more free flowing but you can basically puff,puff this vape instead of really long draws, which is awesome and the vapor is thick but has been very comfortable and smooth but I didn't go beyond 370f with any of my loads last night.

I probably put in around 7-10 chambers through the Tera, each till the auto shut-off kicked in (5min) between 330f and 370f. Heat up time was fast, probably around 30seconds to 350f. I am charging up again now but I could have got more loads on that charge. My ABV was surprisingly even and pretty well done by 5min and 10 or so draws. Occasionally, the ABV was fresher nearest the edge of the chamber but i never stirred. Filled the chamber loose to the top and after, my material had "shrunk," so I know I'm pulling a lot of ingredients out of my material and that heater has to be a beast! I also had great ABV with the S&B Capsules, which sit just a tad high but the MP's were secure enough magnetically and they worked very nice, although you can't use the "extra" chamber screens with the Capsules and they aren't needed. you can also use those capsules without the tops and just attach it to the end of the mp/screen and they kinda hold on to the Silicone but you have to use a little less material.Looking forward to more testing today!
Can you fit a whip tube in the glass mouthpiece. Think a soft 6in /15cm extension might suit quite well.

Can you measure the ID of the glass mouthpiece?
 
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Peacer666

Well-Known Member
It's under-rated by the manufacturer, it's really a 18A cell. The HG2 and VTC6 are over-rated on the other hand, and they are also 18A cells and not 20A. All three can sustain 20A only if you have a mechanism to cut the power once the cell reaches 70°C.

30Q is still my favorite cell at the moment. And it's funnier in pink than the brown LG.



I'm really curious about that part. Will we see yet again the bloody polyimide tape somewhere in their design? Is it the same kind of robot fart smell we had in the FlowerMate range?

I really hope they got rid of that crap once for good!



Actually the CFV also has 2 cells, but it's two 18350 in series, the small ones. We had around 1000mAh of capacity if I recall correctly the numbers.

The CFV2 heater might not be more powerful as the first version was already amongst the power champions on the market (a little known fact, but CFX/CF/CFV are all around 80W peak, so even more than Zion and more than twice as much as Mighty) I don't think they made the new one even more powerful than that, but could be wrong.
Got an swift pro since 10/2017 and the robot fart was gone away faster than the plastic taste from the topcap/cooling unit and the smell from the soft touch plastic.
If you use the swift pro enough it will smell/taste from the inside no more even if you run it with empty bowl.
But it was my first device with such a strong new car smell (including smartphones and all electric stuff).
I think this could be better and i think the box of the swift has the same smell or the part where the swift lays in when you open the box.
Perhaps it would help to pack it in another way, so that the plastic smell can exit from the box or so.
I would prefer structured plastic more than the rubberrized plastic even if my swift's rubber meanwhile just smells like weed.
Normally it is a pleasure if a rubberrized device smells like weed but not in non-legal countrys/states.
The Alternate for example only smells from the mouthpeace if you close air flow plus topcap.
Do you know the Hammer vaporizer pro?
I would like to know how it compares to the Tera.

i definitely noticed a smell at first but we've all smelt it before with new vape s, packaging, New silicone, plastic smell and I'm not concerned and it may not be something u "burn off" anyways. My first load was a conduction test, so it was sort of a burn off and my material was pretty much the same when it came out of the chamber after the 5 min auto shut-off with no draws at 356f. There can't be much, if any Conduction going on at the lower temps but there may be more with the S&B Capsules. I did notice a smell and taste, mostly with the swivel mp but it's basically disappeared completely now and the taste is top notch.

I put some serious loads through the Tera, both with the S&B Capsules and without and my results were quite amazing. First off, the Tera a hits like a Conduction vape, in the sense that you get vapor immediately and it's ez to get, unlike some Convection vapes. You don't need to draw long or fast and I get vapor on the first draw and I was getting clouds at 330f! The temp feels right though, maybe a little hotter but it's nothing like the CFV, where you had to use 400f and draw your brains out for vapor. Tera doesn't seem very picky either, how you pack The chamber or grind but I'm gonna do more testing on grinds and amounts today. The draw has improved drastically and there are no air leaks, unlike the CFV. The Tera rips! As I mentioned, the smell has gone away, not exactly sure of the source, most likely just "new" parts/material smell but the flavor is quite amazing now, especiAlly with the glass mp. The glass is hotter and maybe slightly more free flowing but you can basically puff,puff this vape instead of really long draws, which is awesome and the vapor is thick but has been very comfortable and smooth but I didn't go beyond 370f with any of my loads last night.

I probably put in around 7-10 chambers through the Tera, each till the auto shut-off kicked in (5min) between 330f and 370f. Heat up time was fast, probably around 30seconds to 350f. I am charging up again now but I could have got more loads on that charge. My ABV was surprisingly even and pretty well done by 5min and 10 or so draws. Occasionally, the ABV was fresher nearest the edge of the chamber but i never stirred. Filled the chamber loose to the top and after, my material had "shrunk," so I know I'm pulling a lot of ingredients out of my material and that heater has to be a beast! I also had great ABV with the S&B Capsules, which sit just a tad high but the MP's were secure enough magnetically and they worked very nice, although you can't use the "extra" chamber screens with the Capsules and they aren't needed. you can also use those capsules without the tops and just attach it to the end of the mp/screen and they kinda hold on to the Silicone but you have to use a little less material.Looking forward to more testing today!
The Tera has only passive conduction through the convection when you are pulling from like at the alternate.
The bowl reflect and saves the heat from the hot air pulling through it, or not?
 
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Razor

Well-Known Member
Really liking this vape. Had too many sessions last night lol hangover this morning. Had to drink a ton of water and eat a few bananas. This thing is a beast. Much happier with it than i was the cfv 1.0

Ive been thinking about it. Theyre in a great spot even with the bad wpa. The whole magnetic piece is able to be redesigned for a wpa only, since it all comes off of the unit in one piece w the magnets. If they decide to that is which i hope they do.

The plastic smell isnt inside the bowl. Its around the outside. There is no smell on mine anymore after beingn handled.
 

trfe

Well-Known Member
That sounds very reassuring, thank you very much, @Just Justin!

I understand that people are different when it comes to that "new device smell", but I have absolutely no problem with that if it goes away and does not persist. It was the same with the first 2-3 Fury II bowls and even the Mica in my Milaanas and Vapmen smelled a bit at the first heating cycles.

Great, now I am even more looking forward to executing my bad idea on Monday. :)

That’s where I get confused. So the new vape/plastic smell. Does it go away or are you just masking it with the overpowering smell of your material?

I’m sure it’s not a big deal considering what we breathe in on a daily basis but breathing in warm plastic smelling air isn’t ideal for me.
 

dannydroid

Google Nazi
Most plastics have that strong plastic smell. Its new and just been moulded. Then stuck in a box and wrapped in plastic wrap. The air has nowhere to go.

I'd only really be worried if your could smell the plastic more when the device is on, then that would lead me to believe the heating element is heating up some plastic, which is a huge no no.

We know Boundless loves their isolated airpath. They're also like us, stoners who use their products. Not just some Chinese company trying to make $$$.

I should note, I have a problem with "robo farts". I think most people like to complain about it because they've read it and assume any form of plastic smell (no matter how small) is robo farts. Most plastics smell, as long as it doesn't smell like burning and that it doesn't taste like plastic.
 
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trfe

Well-Known Member
Makes perfect sense.

Based on your opinion, just want to be clear.

If I suck on a cold vape with a plastic mouthpiece and taste nothing that’s perfect.

But if I suck on the same plastic mouthpiece of fully heated vape with nothing in the oven and it tastes like plastic then something might be wrong?
 

dannydroid

Google Nazi
Sort of.
It's hard to explain (I've smoked through / on some stupid things as a kid).

You're nose and mouth are connected, thats why you can "taste" smells, and why most food tastes as it smells.

For example, if you take the MP off a brand new CF/X, and suck, you'll "taste" the plastic. If you suck on a MP of a use CF/X, you'll must likely taste a sort of honey / herby like. Even though nothing is burning / vaping.

Heated plastic, you can taste more than it smells, it tastes "thicker", if that makes sense, and it really hurts the back of your throat.
 
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