BHO Equipment Affect Yield

rabblerouser

Combustion Fucker
OK I'll probably try one last time, maybe not right away 7 Grams of Medicine has to last me longer than that, but if I can fix the yield is a much better proposition.:science:

Can you give me a link to those carts?
 
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farscaper

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See the little white cap in the middle of the pic. Thats what im talking about...
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I bet if u went into the classified section and posted a wanted add someone would send u one for the cost of a stamp. I only have the one I have cause I only got into omicron stuff for a minute. . But they come with every cart so im sure someone has got to be generous enough to ship a cap... otherwise it seem excessive to buy a cart just for the cap... never the less here is a single.

http://www.planetvape.ca/vaporizer-extract-cartridge-single.html

Edit: here is what I mean...
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The cut wont hold over 4.... easier to purge tiny amouts...
 
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DieHard

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I think u have the idea...

Have u ever seen the little white caps that come with the omicro carts? Check it out... I used one of those (which has a hole already in it) and I threaded it onto the threads that are on the needle attachment that came with my SSTB. I then pulled the "needle" out of the threaded housing and v'wala. Open bore adapter. And when u screw it onto the SSTB it seals perfect. Plus it sticks out past the adapter and is silicon so it acts as a grip... just like a syringe. Thats the ONLY thing I do diffrent than most. I scrapped the shitty plastic adapters for a metal one.

So... in that frame of mind. If the teflon and plastic adapter sealed well there is one thing that I just remebered. Bore out or cut off the tip of the adapter. You notice one end has a little hole.. way smaller than the hole on can. It causes pressure loss too... feel bad I didnt think of that sooner... but I bet that will help if you can mimic the nozzle I use.

And I figure even some rubber band around the narrow part would act as a grip and frost prevention.

I fucked up a bunch to get here... true skill only comes from trial and error. :science:

Edit: u mentioned cold burns... ive gotten them... but its always due to direct contact with the stream.. lol. Maybe im numb... ive stuck my finger in the stream on a large larf run to see if it was still sticky.... I should perhaps put disclaimers in my signature...

Peace and fortune to you:science:
@rabblerouser if you want to PM your address, I have 2 of those white caps. I will send them to you. Don't worry about the stamp.:)
 

Stiggy

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I don't see any point to putting that silicone piece on the threading there. I just use some Teflon pipe thread sealer tape right there to seal that!!! Its impervious to butane.. That silicone I don't know...
 
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farscaper

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I don't see any point to putting that silicone pice on the threading there. I just use some teflon pipe thread sealer tape right there to seal that!!! Its impervious to butane.. That silicone I don't know...
1. Butane does not touch it.

2. I never have to replace it.

3. Personal choice.
 
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Stiggy

Member
1. Butane does not touch it.
Take that piece out and blast butane through a well packed SSTB tube. Depending on the fit of your pieces butane WILL start to seep out there eventually with a well pressurized tube. Butane deffinatley touches that, there is no question.


2. I never have to replace it.
I never replace the Teflon wrap unless I feel the need to take the tube completely apart and there really is no need to do that for cleaning.
 
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farscaper

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Take that piece out and blast butane through a well packed SSTB tube. Depending on the fit of your pieces butane WILL start to seep out there eventually with a well pressurized tube. Butane deffinatley touches that, there is no question.



I never replace the Teflon wrap unless I feel the need to take the tube completely apart and there really is no need to do that for cleaning.
To each their own.... but if you go read the rest of the thread... you might find I wasnt asking for help...

But thanks for you opinion just the same.
 
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Stiggy

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To each their own.... but if you go read the rest of the thread... you might find I wasnt asking for help...

But thanks for you opinion just the same.
Whether or not you asked for help is irrelevant. You posted information that some may feel unsafe. We don't need that. So I posted better information. I'm not trying to help you. I'm trying to prevent the spread of potentially bad information and help the community.

Good day, sir.
 
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farscaper

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You posted your opinion just as I did...

what proof have you that your information is "good" or "bad" or that your way is any better?

The internet is full of "fact" filled opinions...
 
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farscaper

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This has been beaten to death in threads already. I am not going to debate it with you. Teflon has no reaction to butane. Silicone does have a reaction to butane. This is science fact.

http://www.coleparmer.com/Chemical-Resistance
Teflon is of course PTFE on the list of materials.
Your still assuming that butane even comes in contact with that seal ... which it doesnt.
that was your original comment was it not. The fact that butane was touching the seal. I never said that silicone was better or worse than ptfe... of course ptfe is better. I wish the omi caps were ptfe that way this wouldnt even have been debatable.

BUT! to make you happy I will add that teflon tape can be added to the threads of the adapter to ensure that no butane will touch the silicone.

That does not negate the fact the silicone ring really does a nice job as a grip for those who are inclined to use a micro tube.

The irony here is I agree with you. I just dont appreciate the hostility... in fact. Im done here with this.

Peace.
 
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Stiggy

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Your still assuming that butane even comes in contact with that seal ... which it doesnt.
Quite the opposite, you're assuming it does not. Why do we use thread sealers? To prevent leaks of gas or liquid flowing through the thread gaps. If you put some silicone at the end of that gap, the fluid still fills the gaps in the threading and will come in contact with the silicone. Its not going to make a lot of contact and soak the whole piece of silicone obviously. The amount of exposure in your application may not be much, but its there. And hey, your right, a little teflon tape first probably takes care of my concern. No problem now!

I agree that it probably makes a nice grip. If it were PTFE it'd be a perfect solution.
 
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rabblerouser

Combustion Fucker
hrm.... well I followed the link and matched up silicone and butane in their matrix. It says:
"D = Severe Effect, not recommended for ANY use."

BUT, if it doesn't get any butane on it and its just nearby that sounds fine.

I'm still unclear on how the silicone piece gets put together with the rest of it, pictures could be hot, hasn't come in the mail yet anyway, but maybe today or tomorrow.

And that needle just pulls out usually? pliers slipped off, so vice grips?
 
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farscaper

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hrm.... well I followed the link and matched up silicone and butane in their matrix. It says:
"D = Severe Effect, not recommended for ANY use."

BUT, if it doesn't get any butane on it and its just nearby that sounds fine.

I'm still unclear on how the silicone piece gets put together with the rest of it, pictures could be hot, hasn't come in the mail yet anyway, but maybe today or tomorrow.

And that needle just pulls out usually? pliers slipped off, so vice grips?
I think I just screwed the needle fitting onto the tube and used it as leverage.... then yanked the needle by wiggling back and fourth with plyers. Its only held in by friction. There is a chance u will squish the needle... but its not like u need it for anything.

As far as assembly. The silicon cap has a hole in it stock. This is threaded onto the needle tip like in the picture then that is simply screwed onto the tube. It is squeezed between the needle adapter and the sstb body... like a rubber washer... ill shoot a pic later if you still want.
 
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dannkk

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A seal will come in contact with anything you're trying to seal out. If it didn't, you wouldn't need the seal in the first place. All the butane that would spray out of that piece will touch the silicone. Splitting hairs, but don't be silly.
 
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rabblerouser

Combustion Fucker
I decided to wrap a handle made out of duct tape onto the sstb, sidestepping any concerns about silicone, i hope. i think this is a better grip anyway.

I got my best ever yield in the mini sstb, just shy of 15%, this is with the metal nozzle with some teflon tape around it, a little leaking at the top seal, but the butane was pretty clear by the time my hands got too cold.
If i can reliably get at least 15, i'll be happier than before, when this tube was getting me like 10%. I think from now on i'm gonna save my leftovers for an alcohol wash to see if i get anything else off of them.
 
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