Best Vape for Water Filtration

[duh]

If you read my other thread. I have been chasing health problems and one big change I made was going from 100% water use in my bong to 0% use in my vaporizer setups. Now, I want to go the other direction and only work w/vapes that use water. I have the MacGyver setup high quality glass and a downstem that takes the PD stem but I find the whole setup a bit cumbersome. My criteria for water vaping:

1. Easy setup. No science experiments (captainhits). It's bad enough water is involved at all, making it a no-mess setup would be great.

2. Big hits. My PD works fine to get and maintain meds but I'd prefer not to have to use 3 stems to get there. The Volcano is loud and wasteful but it's easy to throw a bag onto a bong. Not efficient though. That new SSV large chamber looks tempting.

3. Obtainable. This is an odd one, but after the PD, I'd prefer to hear only about vapes I can actually buy. My big reservation about 7th floor (DB/SSV) is customer service.

Notice $ isn't on the list. I'm not big on spending it, but I can always sell one (or 2,3). I'd prefer not to waste $ either, so if the DB is a better fit for me, great!

Ideas? Are "pure" water vaporizers better than what I already have? Should I just get my Extreme back?

Thanks in advance!

-duh

 

[IAmKrazy2]

I think the E is hella nice for water hookups and versatility. It is very nice to be able to do forced air hits via a glass bong, something I really like about turning the fan on. Just order an extra elbow and attach to any 18mm glass. Pretty simple as far as set up goes, very available, big hits are no problem.

if that doesn't work check out the APE Vape or VHW

 

[pyronym]

I have purchased 2 ssv's direct from 7th floor. They seem to go through a lot of people so I find just being proactive and calling back every few days and making sure they remember you(squeaky wheel works really well with these people). I have one of the hand blown icechambers by 7th floor and I like it but when the ice melts its easy to spill out of the carb or get water in the tube especially when your with newbs. I think if I order anything else (other than a custom mouthpiece, as ALL my other parts are custom) it would either be the new style icechambers that they are getting from someone else or one of their water filters if I can find one I like. All in all I could not recommend the ssv enough but the icechamber(oldstyle) I might pass on in favor of the new style or a different manufacturer and just buy the gong adapter from 7th floor. I cant tell a big difference in the temp of the vapor but I can tell it's cleaner especially when using kief or wand hash it makes a world of difference.

 

[Beezleb]

Check out a wand vaporizer, Vrip I think would be best but theres also the Herborizer. I have the DBV and want for no other but if I was looking at bong usage I would go with a wand vaporizer and my personal choice would be the vrip due to its reported quality and customer service.

Vrip thread:
http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=322

 

[jklasd]

not sure on this. you can get the vhw, though still beta testing (i think?). ive tried the ssv with a bong once. just once. the hit wasn't great. but because i was inperience, i wont say its not good. i really enjoy the pd with the bong, but i get what your saying. id see much whip style vapes kinda hitting the same way, where as the vhw is meant for a bong. i have not used or tried one. while i like the system, the price as well as its still a beta is something i dont want to deal with right now. but thats my recommandation, the vhw.

 

[max]

My big reservation about 7th floor (DB/SSV) is customer service.

If you want an SSV that's customized to your taste, it's worth going through 7th Floor IMO. But if that's not an issue, or if you're after the DBV, FC members have some great prices available via coupon codes. Vapenow, Diesel Vapors, Vapeworld, can all deliver an 'in stock' 7th Floor product with good service and free shipping. Of course if you need repair service, you're stuck with the manufacturer.

 

[Beezleb]

For an SSV & DBV, especially when it comes to custom pieces, I would go through Tolkin rather than another as Tolkin will physically go to the factory and hand select your pieces for you.

 

[marcuss]

if you are interested to get the best taste from your stash and get buzzed with a bowl go with the Herbo or the vhw IMO.....water filtration MAKES the difference for me!

Aromed kicks ass too!

 

[Jikaboom123]

Herbo or VHW are made for water filtration. The Aromed is too expensive, IMO.

 

[2000pm]

herborizer man! i just took a fat milky water-filtered hit before typing this out.

1. Easy setup. No science experiments (captainhits). It's bad enough water is involved at all, making it a no-mess setup would be great.

if you know how to use a bong you can use the herbo.

2. Big hits. My PD works fine to get and maintain meds but I'd prefer not to have to use 3 stems to get there. The Volcano is loud and wasteful but it's easy to throw a bag onto a bong. Not efficient though. That new SSV large chamber looks tempting.

the herb chamber/bowl on the herbo is plenty big enough to get you ripped off your ass on one bowl. The temp control on the XL model is nice for upping it a bit to get those thicker milky hits, ive not used the normal version so I'm not sure what the fixed is like.

3. Obtainable. This is an odd one, but after the PD, I'd prefer to hear only about vapes I can actually buy. My big reservation about 7th floor (DB/SSV) is customer service.

quite obtainable from a few different places or direct from the source www.herborizer.com

Notice $ isn't on the list. I'm not big on spending it, but I can always sell one (or 2,3). I'd prefer not to waste $ either, so if the DB is a better fit for me, great!

thats the only drawback, this thing aint cheap. but id say you do get what you pay for.

 

[duh]

Which one makes the least noise? Is the most quiet? ?

 

[max]

Herbo or VHW are made for water filtration. The Aromed is too expensive, IMO.

Either XL Herbo is more expensive than an Aromed from vapenow with our 10% discount, and the basic Sphere is only about $10 less. :/

Which one makes the least noise? Is the most quiet?

Don't think you'll find anyone that's done a side by side noise test on all these, and how much water you're using and how hard you draw are also factors.

 

[duh]

Sphere vs. Tube?
What is the biggest 'hitter' of the water vapes?

 

[marcuss]

Sphere vs. Tube?
What is the biggest 'hitter' of the water vapes?

man i,ve got both of them(XL).....the injector and the bowl are the same so there is not a big difference between them...it is more about your habits....the tube allow you to get a slight bigger hit but the sphere with its percolator and the smaller mouthpiece seems to give you a smoother hit.

Aromed is a water filtered unit with precise temp control....it is a great desk vape indeed!

 

[stonemonkey55]

i agree with marcuss - the sphere or tube really isn't the factor in what will be the bigger hitter. The limiting factor will essentially be your lungs and if the vapor irritates your throat enoguh to keep you from inhaling more.

You would think that a larger piece would produce larger hits but for me, I feel like the more time the vapor sits in a chamber versus my lungs, it begins to lose flavor rather quickly why is why I prefer small to medium sized pieces when using water filtration.

 

[marcuss]

right on sm55!! in the vapor realm, more than one time smaller is better...if you see The 7Floor and the vriptech glassware are smaller than a regular bong for that reason, also the Aromed water filter is really small for the same matter.
I like the chemist style Tube XL but it is too big for my lungs to clean it in one hit so i'm looking for a small and cheaper piece without the fear to break that big boy!
I'm waiting for better days to get the new VWT water tool from vriptech that seems a very good piece

 

[duh]

Thanks sm55 & marcuss - I guess I want a big hitter but like you, I can only fill my lungs w/so much.

The sphere vs. tube thing I thought was about surface area - maybe one is better for hot strains, oils, etc? Style only?

The big chore for me is always the reloading. That massive SSV chamber looked cool, also the E can run forever.

What is easiest to refill?

 

[marcuss]

the only differences....you cannot put ice in the Sphere and the Tube is easier to clean...the Herbo bowl is large and really easy to load and clean but i can say the same for the Aromed and VHW's bowls

I'm quite sure the Spherexl inner surface is smaller than the Tubexl and let you get smaller hits with higher vaportoair ratio.
Anyhow you can get only the Herbo heating system XL and a smaller tube of your choice or maybe you have one already at home

 

[Hotboxvapebongin]

I can only speak for the VHW but I assure you that as long as you got a bong thats about a foot tall than you can take some big vrips.

 

[duh]

I'm falling back to using the PD w/out bong. I found that the bong makes the PD like 20% efficient. As I don't have 5x stash or time, I'm giving up on that route.

I'm still totally confused as which is 'best' for me on water vapes.

marcuss, I'm guessing you recommend the herboizer sphere xl over the vhw based on your signature.

 

[marcuss]

duh....you are the only one that can say which is the "best" water vape for you!!
I've got both and i find a bit hard to recommend one against others.....i love them all...they have differences but this is a pro and not a cons...The Sphere is the more confortable for my lungs for its size and shape...the tube gives slightly bigger hits.....the VHW give me less hits than any Herbos from a bowl but thicker, it cooks the material quicker IMO ....all of them are AAA vapes...you cannot go wrong anyway....i put the Herbo first because i love its smoother hits and longer lazy sessions!!
I've been testing the Aromed for a month and it was soo nice but a bit noisy....