yea if its getting almost black you cooking it for a little too long IMHO. I vape at high temps as well and when i'm done with a bowl(probably .08 or so, doesn't even register on my scale which starts at .1) it is tanish almost brown in color and I get 3-4 fat rips and 2-3 smaller ones. Usually I just take 3 fat rips and I'm high as shit then I wait and save the rest for later.dorkus_molorkus said:well this is how it went. i put about .06-.08 of herb in the wand & the dial just on about 9oclock(at 830 its off)
pull 3 nice ripps, stir pull 2more both thinner than the 1st 3.
remove wand, crank up to 1230ish, stir.
pull 2 really, really thin ripps.
turn dial to 3oclock-, stir, pull twice, nuthin.
stir, pull again, nuthin.
reset back to 9oclock go away for 30mins.
after 30 mins-load on top of the ABV now in the wand some QWISO'd ABV & kief hashy type stuff.(about
2 pinheads worth)
and pull at 9oclock twice. nuthin.
stir, pull again, nuthin
move dial to 12oclock, wait a min or 2.
pull about 3 wispy, thin looking ripps, then nuthin.
stir, pull, nuthin.
turn up to 3oclock & wait
stir, pull, a small amount of vapor, barely anything to mention.
pull, nuthin, stir , pull , nuthin
set the dial back to 9oclock & wait 30 mins.
empty out the ABV from the wand & the hashy stuff looks barely touched, so I reload it with about .1 of fresh herb & another small piece of hashy stuff (about the head of a match worth)
I then pull 3 nice ripps at the 9oclock setting, then 2 a bit thinner.
removed the wand, moved the dial to 1230ish, stir, then pull another 3 nice ripps.
remove the wand, turn the dial to 3oclock
wait 2 mins, stir, then pull another 3-4 ripps & another 2 pretty goods ones, stiring every 2nd hit.
2 more wispy one & its all over. the popcorn taste is quite strong, but I dont taste burning or smoke.
I tip out the wand & the ABV is very nearly black, if I didnt know any better I'd say i'd combusted.
But as i said, no smoke or burning taste, just a pretty strong popcorn tatste & smell, but again not unpleasant.
here I was patting myself on the back for getting the learning curve sorted quick. but surely, having it so hot at its lowest setting is not how it should be.
It seems to be perfectly functionable for my purposes of vapebonging, I guess as long thats all its doing, I can live with it.
Yes, IMO you can waste vapor with big exhales. You can only process so much vapor at a time. But taking small hits and holding 'em, every single time, isn't much fun, so it's best to balance your process somewhere between conservation and enjoyable vaping. It depends on the individual's requirements. If you really need to stretch your supply, due to cost and/or availabiltiy, you might want to vape with a little more discipline, to limit big exhales.Does the vapour released after a DBV hit mean i am hitting too hard on it and letting useful vapour out
That depends on your temp setting. Draw speed determines the vaping temp, along with the dial setting. A higher temp setting, with a fresh bowl, should be used with a strong draw, unless you're looking for a high temp hit right off the bat. That's OK, if it's what you want, but going high temp right away will use up your bowl contents in a hurry. And of course a strong, fast draw at a lower temp setting may take your vaping temp too low to even produce vapor. So you have to take draw speed into consideration when you set the temp. Use a speed that's comfortable for you, and adust the temp dial accordingly. Those who are used to hitting a bong really hard will probably be more comfortable with a higher dial setting than someone who prefers a nice, easy draw. This is all part of the learning curve with a whip vape, and something to keep in mind when multiple people are using. The dial setting for person A may be perfect for their draw speed, but may be really off for person B, who has a very different hitting style.thatoneguyaz said:It was my understanding that the slower you hit it the better, is this correct?
Thanks for the quick response.Vitolo said:You do not have to connect anything.you place the thin metal sleeve in place, and slide the HC down. if it is loose , take the sleeeve off, and gently squeeze it this way and that slightly out of round here and theer. do this until the HC is snug. There is no other attaching needed.
I am looking now. Squeeze the top of the metal cylinder one way, and the bottom the other. ( BE GENTLE).. and this should make entire situation snug.
Take pictures if you can
Agreed.. that is why:VapeNStone said:I have noticed that if you run ISO through the tubes you can never get that taste/smell of the alcohol out of them. That is why I just replace rather than clean.
I use Hot water and Dish Soap (I like Dawn). After a hot water rinse, I follow with a long cold water rinse.Vitolo said:You can run Iso or everclear though them for a wash first, but I don't do that very often, as I wash the tubes regularly!
akwardsauce said:AMTA said:Just wanted to let everyone know that 7th floor gave me the green light on the SSV glass for my Buddha. I don't have the cash quite yet, but I have a check coming any day now. I'll post again when I receive my glass.
do you happen to know how much this upgrade actually costs? im guessing you just have to buy a new glass heater cover & new glass wand?
i actually still dont even have a DBV yet, but i figure the costs will be useful to know for the future...and how do you go about ordering it? do you have to email 7th floor or just go directly through their website? because they do not seem to respond to my emails...and yes, i emailed tokin, too without a response...
Vitolo said:I don't care to hear about Iso being bad, and "attacking" the tubing... I do not care.. and have already posted a dozen posts proving that SSV/DBV tubing is the best, and that Iso can not harm it!
From personal experience I found that Isopropyl will eventually either discolor, fog, or dry out my tubes if I reuse and reclean for a year. The grain alcohol has never dried out a tube, and does clean them.
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max said:I don't know why you'd think that a much narrower air stream, even with moving the wand, would provide more even vaporizing. It's kind of like comparing a laser pointer to a flashlight. The SSV definitely requires more stirring with the standard HC/wand setup.Soulhunter said:I thought SSV was better at vaping evenly since u can move the wand around?