Best clean airpath vape?

[WildSpruce]

Hi all,

I am looking for any recommendations for a vape that has a clean airpath. One from a company that is trusted.

I just got one for Christmas that was supposed to be on the "healthy" side but for me that was not the case. I was left feeling the opposite after my experience.

I am just looking for a simple device with a clean airpath. Are edibles the only way to accomplish that these days?

Thank you in advance for any suggestions! Happy holidays to all!

 

[nicknobody]

Hi all,

I am looking for any recommendations for a vape that has a clean airpath. One from a company that is trusted.

I just got one for Christmas that was supposed to be on the "healthy" side but for me that was not the case. I was left feeling the opposite after my experience.

I am just looking for a simple device with a clean airpath. Are edibles the only way to accomplish that these days?

Thank you in advance for any suggestions! Happy holidays to all!

What device is that?

Check out the rogue wax works.

Also check out the search feature as this is a weekly occurring topic.



Happy hunting.

 

[WildSpruce]

What device is that?

Check out the rogue wax works.

Also check out the search feature as this is a weekly occurring topic.



Happy hunting.

I guess I should of done that first huh? It was suggested to me to start a thread here and so I jumped perhaps too quickly lol

I won't disclose here the device that I had an issue with. You can find it in my history if you really wanted to know. I just don't want to further kick down the company based on my experience. But thank you for the response and suggestion!

 

[nicknobody]

It’s just hard to make a suggestion when we don’t know the experience you didn’t enjoy. You also didn’t mention if you want torch powered, battery portable or plug in desk top. Convection or conduction. Do u have a safe vape space away from children and pets that can be injured by a hot desk top vape? Micro or macro dose? There’s so many considerations.

You asked for the purest so I threw out trww. They are torch or coil powered all quartz devices that are so pure and versatile. They are my absolute favorite.

Good luck!

Edited to add:

I’m not saying you shouldn’t have made this thread. We have all been here at some point. Just dont get discouraged if you don’t get too many replies as there’s tons of info on the topic if you are willing to dig a bit

 

[WildSpruce]

It’s just hard to make a suggestion when we don’t know the experience you didn’t enjoy. You also didn’t mention if you want torch powered, battery portable or plug in desk top. Convection or conduction. Do u have a safe vape space away from children and pets that can be injured by a hot desk top vape? Micro or macro dose? There’s so many considerations.

You asked for the purest so I threw out trww. They are torch or coil powered all quartz devices that are so pure and versatile. They are my absolute favorite.

Good luck!

Edited to add:

I’m not saying you shouldn’t have made this thread. We have all been here at some point. Just dont get discouraged if you don’t get too many replies as there’s tons of info on the topic if you are willing to dig a bit

Fair points! I have a safe space away from children or pets. In fact I have no children.

I'm honestly open to any type of device as long as it's a clean airpath. Torch, desktop, convection, conduction.. none of that matters to me. As long as it's a clean airpath I'm game. It's normally just me so micro doses but I do host from time to time and share around.

My poor experience was due to it being marketed as a "healthy" option but there was a smell and taste that I've never experienced with a vape before. As per the instructions I did a burn-off but I could smell and taste essentially burnt silicone or plastic. Something was off gassing that should not have been. So to me that isn't a clean airpath.

So yeah, I'm not picky as to what it is. Just picky as to what it does. Clean vapor

Edit to add that the smell and taste remained after the burnoff. As per instructions I did a 5 minute burn off. I waited about 20mins loaded up and then yeah the rest has already been said.

 

[2tiki]

Edibles and RSO are the cleanest option for your lungs if you are that worried. End of story.

Some folks don't use torch based devices because of the gas fumes from the torch, some folks don't use anything with metal because they worry about getting "metal fever" from the material that comes off of metal at high temps. I don't think you mentioned what you fully mean by clean vapor, or why it is so important.
There are soooooo many dry herb vapes out there, and you won't find a more experienced group of people who have tried all of the best ones and many of the not best ones, than you will here. But, it's hard for people to help anyone with very specific desires when we don't have all the info. If you just want one that won't taste like burnt plastic, that really should be most of them.

Probably what ever one you tried but won't mention (If that one is a popular one), be prepared to hear it suggested over and over again if you don't tell us which one it was. Most people aren't going to search for your previous post.

 

[WildSpruce]

Edibles and RSO are the cleanest option for your lungs if you are that worried. End of story.

Some folks don't use torch based devices because of the gas fumes from the torch, some folks don't use anything with metal because they worry about getting "metal fever" from the material that comes off of metal at high temps. I don't think you mentioned what you fully mean by clean vapor, or why it is so important.
There are soooooo many dry herb vapes out there, and you won't find a more experienced group of people who have tried all of the best ones and many of the not best ones, than you will here. But, it's hard for people to help anyone with very specific desires when we don't have all the info. If you just want one that won't taste like burnt plastic, that really should be most of them.

Probably what ever one you tried but won't mention (If that one is a popular one), be prepared to hear it suggested over and over again if you don't tell us which one it was. Most people aren't going to search for your previous post.

Fair points. I did my best to outline that I'm looking for a clean airpath and none of the other functions matter as long as it's clean vapor.

If people suggest it over and over that's fine. But I don't see the necessity in ousting the company again. It's really irrelevant I don't think focusing on that aspect is beneficial.. if you have a vape that you like and you think the company is genuine with a vapor quality you deem clean then feel free to recommend it!

I was messaged firewood 9 so that's on the top of my list to try.

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

Just try the Vaponic.
Could very well be the best 40 bucks you'll ever spend...

 

[WildSpruce]

Just try the Vaponic.
Could very well be the best 40 bucks you'll ever spend...

Something like that looks very promising! How's the heat transfer? Meaning does the heat travel up to your fingers/lips?

 

[nicknobody]

Just try the Vaponic.
Could very well be the best 40 bucks you'll ever spend...

Ehh TRWW are cleaner and safer for a couple dollars more

Torching quartz is safer than torching boro and the lack of silicone is “cleaner” like the op is after

Edit for link

Glass Thermal Extraction Devices

Glass Thermal Extraction Devices

theroguewaxworks.com

 

[Octavia]

I was messaged firewood 9 so that's on the top of my list to try.

Seconding the firewood 9, the airpath is entirely visible, cleanable and contains only ceramic, stainless steel and wood (at the air intake). There is a silicone o ring in the neck of the oven outlet used to hold the stem in place but is not in the airpath.
(that area can get hot though). Easily my most used device, especially when taking a walk through the neighbourhood. Bought mine around $300, but looks like the price has dropped to $265.

Tinymight 2 is similar where the air enters through stainless steel baseplate, goes through the heater, then a glass or zirconia ceramic bit before exiting the glass or titanium stem. Only silicone should be a ring near the top of the body to hold the stem in place, or on an optional cooling insert. Runs about $350

Other options:
- Bakx by lamart: limited drops and requires a 510 mod, but the airpath is a glass tube heated by a coil that’s entirely outside the airpath. Probably the purest battery powered option, but spendy and often difficult to get. If you get lucky with a drop it’ll run you about $500 for a 510 mod and bakx, and gets to about $800+ with resellers.

- Dynavap/Dani Fusion/Anvil: all of these devices are metal or glass tubes with a metal oven (stainless steel, titanium or copper surrounded by titanium) on one end that you heat with a torch or induction heater until it clicks. All use silicone o rings to hold the pieces together, but the metal generally overlaps in a way where the silicone is minimally exposed to the airpath and should never be in the airpath. These heat up and cool down relatively quickly and the stainless steel dynavaps will only run you about $70-100. Dani, anvil and titanium dynavaps will set you back $200 or so.

- Tempest/Thermal accumulator: basically the same as the previous ones, but these use generally ceramic balls (think zirconia by default?) in a titanium enclosure to store more heat. These stay hot for 2-5 minutes after heating if burns are a concern and have a learning curve due to the higher heat. I believe these run about $200?

 

[WildSpruce]

Ehh TRWW are cleaner and safer for a couple dollars more

Torching quartz is safer than torching boro and the lack of silicone is “cleaner” like the op is after

Edit for link

Glass Thermal Extraction Devices

Glass Thermal Extraction Devices

theroguewaxworks.com

Yeah this is basically all I need. This looks perfect!!! Thank you nicknobody

Seconding the firewood 9, the airpath is entirely visible, cleanable and contains only ceramic, stainless steel and wood (at the air intake). There is a silicone o ring in the neck of the oven outlet used to hold the stem in place but is not in the airpath.
(that area can get hot though). Easily my most used device, especially when taking a walk through the neighbourhood. Bought mine around $300, but looks like the price has dropped to $265.

Tinymight 2 is similar where the air enters through stainless steel baseplate, goes through the heater, then a glass or zirconia ceramic bit before exiting the glass or titanium stem. Only silicone should be a ring near the top of the body to hold the stem in place, or on an optional cooling insert. Runs about $350

Other options:
- Bakx by lamart: limited drops and requires a 510 mod, but the airpath is a glass tube heated by a coil that’s entirely outside the airpath. Probably the purest battery powered option, but spendy and often difficult to get. If you get lucky with a drop it’ll run you about $500 for a 510 mod and bakx, and gets to about $800+ with resellers.

- Dynavap/Dani Fusion/Anvil: all of these devices are metal or glass tubes with a metal oven (stainless steel, titanium or copper surrounded by titanium) on one end that you heat with a torch or induction heater until it clicks. All use silicone o rings to hold the pieces together, but the metal generally overlaps in a way where the silicone is minimally exposed to the airpath and should never be in the airpath. These heat up and cool down relatively quickly and the stainless steel dynavaps will only run you about $70-100. Dani, anvil and titanium dynavaps will set you back $200 or so.

- Tempest/Thermal accumulator: basically the same as the previous ones, but these use generally ceramic balls (think zirconia by default?) in a titanium enclosure to store more heat. These stay hot for 2-5 minutes after heating if burns are a concern and have a learning curve due to the higher heat. I believe these run about $200?

Thank you so much for the recommendations!

I think the Rogue Wax Works that nicknobody suggested and the firewood 9 are the two I am leaning towards.

The TM2 intrigues me greatly, I liked seeing the teardown video from VapeGuy. But I've read a few people state a certain piece kept breaking? Any thoughts on that?

 

[nicknobody]

Yeah this is basically all I need. This looks perfect!!! Thank you nicknobody

Thank you so much for the recommendations!

I think the Rogue Wax Works that nicknobody suggested and the firewood 9 are the two I am leaning towards.

The TM2 intrigues me greatly, I liked seeing the teardown video from VapeGuy. But I've read a few people state a certain piece kept breaking? Any thoughts on that?

Just note that the fully manual vapes have a learning curve. It is completely on you to provide the proper heat and time to achieve what you’re looking for. It’s not hard but takes some figuring out.

You can ride the visible vapor line or the combustion line and everything in between. So versatile but you have to earn it.

 

[Octavia]

Yeah this is basically all I need. This looks perfect!!! Thank you nicknobody

Thank you so much for the recommendations!

I think the Rogue Wax Works that nicknobody suggested and the firewood 9 are the two I am leaning towards.

I’d definitely recommend the glass one out if you’re fine with torching/coil heating, seems like exactly what you’re looking for. I vape outdoors 90+% of the time, so all my devices need to have a battery, but will definitely consider one if I ever end up in a place where I don’t have to worry about neighbours.

The TM2 intrigues me greatly, I liked seeing the teardown video from VapeGuy. But I've read a few people state a certain piece kept breaking? Any thoughts on that?

Unfortunately I don’t own one so I can’t comment on the button/glass insert’s durability, but sounds like the button in particular is a weak point. Hopefully someone who has used one can comment?

I personally wouldn’t get a TM2, but that’s mostly because I have a Toad to fill my convection cravings, and I’ve been holding out for a Tetra P80 (if they ever end up being sold again). The folks here who have one really love it though!

 

[Pib]

Many people use their TM without breaking anything, the TM2 is also a clear improvement on the TM, both are great. You can also take a look at the Vapman, which has many fans.

 

[Radwin Bodnic]

Something like that looks very promising! How's the heat transfer? Meaning does the heat travel up to your fingers/lips?

The outer tube remains cool up to the red line. There's almost no heat transfer.

Ehh TRWW are cleaner and safer for a couple dollars more

Torching quartz is safer than torching boro and the lack of silicone is “cleaner” like the op is after

Torching thin boro like the Vaponic outer tube is absolutely no issue. I've broke thicker quartz pieces torching them, never a Vaponic tube.
On a thin piece like the Vaponic there's almost no delta temperature between the inside and the outside of the tube so almost no internal stress.

And the silicone never gets hot. It's just at the air intake.

I personally find the Vaponic more convenient as a handheld device.

That's just a couple clarifications, I don't want to discredit TRWW, there's no doubt his devices are excellent. (And he's a nice guy).

 

[Vehmic]

Vapman and ZX spring to my mind.

 

[TheScamericann]

The vaphit qoq might interest you. I think the qoq is more practical and has a better form factor than both the vaponic and rogue wax works glass vapes.

 

[nicknobody]

The outer tube remains cool up to the red line. There's almost no heat transfer.



Torching thin boro like the Vaponic outer tube is absolutely no issue. I've broke thicker quartz pieces torching them, never a Vaponic tube.
On a thin piece like the Vaponic there's almost no delta temperature between the inside and the outside of the tube so almost no internal stress.

And the silicone never gets hot. It's just at the air intake.

I personally find the Vaponic more convenient as a handheld device.

That's just a couple clarifications, I don't want to discredit TRWW, there's no doubt his devices are excellent. (And he's a nice guy).

All true. Back in the early dab days when we were doing glowies I had purchased a glass banger thinking it was quartz(I was told it was quartz) and it shattered to pieces. Almost exploding. Not a fair comparison.

Even on the bigger quartz/glass pieces the heat doesnt transfer. I love that you can hold them in your hand while blasting with a blazer big buddy no issues.

 

[Oden]

Universal Baller

 

[Grass Yes]

Universal Baller

Lol, maybe wait until it is actually released before endorsing it.

 

[Oden]

Lol, maybe wait until it is actually released before endorsing it.

I had supported the ZX before its release and it was a great choice sir.
I have a very good feeling about this vape too

 

[justcametomind]

The industry of cannabis vaporization is relatively both small and young. The are no manufacturers who can claim their vape is “safe” other than Storz and Bickel and only for its 2 specific models which are Mighty Medic and Volcano medic. One can assume (as I do) than even models like Venty, Crafty and Volcano Hybrid/Digit/Classic are also quite “safe” since the materials they use are basically the same and the only thing that’s different, is the absence of the 50x single-use silicone mouthpieces they include on the medic vaporizers. Volcano was used in many studies about medicinal cannabis and if there was (or there will be) any issue with its safety, it will be the first vaporizer to be scrutinized for that. The fact that an air path made of glass is safe, or safer than the peek plastic used in S&B products is not proven. It may be said that glass is inert but another thing that comes to mind defining what is “safe” I think it’s also the risk of burning cannabis into the device instead of vaporizing it. This risk is zero on a Volcano or any other S&B vaporizer.
There are a few other vaporizers that claim to be medical and as far as I can recall they are MiniVAP and Aromed 4.0.
I would say these few models are on top of the list of the safe vaporizers as far as we know now.
As much as I love reading about and using artisanal vaporizers, I recognize I “feel safer” using a mass produced Venty which comes from the factory of the biggest (medicinal) manufacturer in the vaporizer business, than using an artisanal vape with its full glass air path.

 

[Photonic]

As much as I love reading about and using artisanal vaporizers, I recognize I “feel safer” using a mass produced Venty which comes from the factory of the biggest (medicinal) manufacturer in the vaporizer business, than using an artisanal vape with its full glass air path.

I looked into the S&B medical cert awhile ago and it wasn't clear to me at the time what it actually offers. The standard referenced was a collection of other standards and different processes, and I didn't fully understand what it meant specifically for the Mighty Medic. I felt like they implemented some manufacturing steps and aligned to certain rules, but I don't know if that translates to safer vapor or if only the electronics and build meet some criteria. Not a bad thing, but I think it is more about functional operation than the end result.

I don't believe those standards were specifically created for building devices that heat plant materials... they are geared more towards EKG machines, monitors, etc. That said, I'd like to see less plastic and more glass or similar.

 

[maremaresing]

Criteria for a safe "clean" airpath vape:

-Ability to clean it fully, from air intake to outlet.
-Airpath made of inert materials that are known to be safe (stainless steel, titanium, glass/quartz, ceramics)(certain gasket materials like fluorine I personally think are completely safe, and silicone (properly cured))

The industry of cannabis vaporization is relatively both small and young. The are no manufacturers who can claim their vape is “safe” other than Storz and Bickel and only for its 2 specific models which are Mighty Medic and Volcano medic. One can assume (as I do) than even models like Venty, Crafty and Volcano Hybrid/Digit/Classic are also quite “safe” since the materials they use are basically the same and the only thing that’s different, is the absence of the 50x single-use silicone mouthpieces they include on the medic vaporizers. Volcano was used in many studies about medicinal cannabis and if there was (or there will be) any issue with its safety, it will be the first vaporizer to be scrutinized for that. The fact that an air path made of glass is safe, or safer than the peek plastic used in S&B products is not proven. It may be said that glass is inert but another thing that comes to mind defining what is “safe” I think it’s also the risk of burning cannabis into the device instead of vaporizing it. This risk is zero on a Volcano or any other S&B vaporizer.
There are a few other vaporizers that claim to be medical and as far as I can recall they are MiniVAP and Aromed 4.0.
I would say these few models are on top of the list of the safe vaporizers as far as we know now.
As much as I love reading about and using artisanal vaporizers, I recognize I “feel safer” using a mass produced Venty which comes from the factory of the biggest (medicinal) manufacturer in the vaporizer business, than using an artisanal vape with its full glass air path.

You undoubtedly have extensive experience with different vaporizers and their properties, so this isn't a shot at you specifically. The idea that S&B are "safe" because they passed a certification process in manufacturing is a widespread myth. They did it for money reasons to corner certain markets, not to make a safer device for you the user.

S&B thinks unanodized aluminum in the oven, either through dosing caps or materials, is okay.
S&B will happily sell a "medical" device that cannot be fully cleaned.

It's just a vape company, and not a particularly good or safe one.