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If the allegation of price gouging wasn't directed at Phase3, then these quotes confuse me:
And:
Implying that a company that is able to release a more affordable ballhead after they had previously released a more expensive ballhead, was ripping customers off with their higher priced product. Phase3 followed their higher priced Z8 with their more affordable ZX. The ZX and its price got announced after CC had announced the Zeal and its price. To me it seems pretty obvious who you are talking about.
And you are overtly directing your words at Phase3 as well:
(I won't continue this discussion, because by now it's only about interpretation of what's being said, and not at all about the actual topic.)
The z8 was manufactured elsewhere and costs more to do so, plus has a machined screen
At no point did I imply they were rorting
There's been a number of other people that mentioned the lower priced option is a response to the zeals price - even if it was a direction they planned themselves it's still a response to b2cvape type options available - and that's still a positive
That isn't saying they were rorting before, but that they now offer two options
A premium fully machined one out of Japan, or one with a mesh screen coming from a different factory that cost less to make with two different prices
This is a good thing - they win with two options for two audiences and the customers win - car brands have different but viable options for different budgets too
I didn't say they were bad once, the only reason they were used as an example (and it was meant in a positive way) was because those two manufacturers are the ones offering low priced options currently (besides b2cvape)
So it was a good mention not a bad one
But these entries to the market are a response to cheap options being available elsewhere - otherwise we would have seen them before b2cvape had a good range
It really weirds me out the way everything always gets directed to the business side and who's backing/attacking which company instead of coming from the consumer and weed enthusiasts side and pov, focusing on the points that relate to benefitting the consumer/stoner
My posts have not attacked or defended any company in particular but the way the scene is run, I did mention those two alongside b2cvape as the only ones offering more accessible options
I'm not part of any of the cliques that get around, at all
I've been focusing on the positives of what is currently happening within the scene and what things are improving the experience and accessibility for stoners accross the board
Tbh I was more critical of the staroma being the same price as the titanium version
But you pulled lines out of sentences/paragraphs to try and make out I accused a different manufacturer in order to defend them, but didn't mention the one I kinda did say something about
If we are making implications about allegiances ....
Mate most manufacturers don't want to be aligned with me
Because if something is shit I will say so and not hide it
I've had places try to buy me with gifts before and then they attack me with a group when I give honest feedback
I wasn't attacking the z8 manufacturer over the zeal at all
I was making commentary on the current progress of the scene
You're focusing on the wrong part of the story mate
They weren't the important parts
It was the open source/diy and quick progression of ballers has a been a win for us all, and so has price drops from companies following
Yay for stoners everywhere
