Bad trip or laced weed?

[mlid]

So last night i smoked a bowl out of my bubbler, (im pretty light weight) and some really fucked up shit happened. i felt like i was going to die and my reality was melting. It felt also like my heart as beating out of my chest and i felt really sick like i was going to puke. I tried sleeping but i wasn't tired i was wide awake and ever time i closed my all this really scary thoughts came to me. and i lost all control of my imagination. I actually hallucinating but it felt like i was play dough and the world was all clay. I also tried eating to bring me down but that didn't work and i wasn't hungry. Every thing scared me and i thought i as having a heart attack and it was really unpleasant. I have been really high before, but i have never experienced something like that. So was it laced or did i just get paranoid and have a bad trip? but it felt like there was another drug in there cuz i never get paranoid. it was only a 5 piece that i smoked. I want to know cuz it really scared me and i hope that never happens again. thannks

 

[mattybass]

Well it was definitely laced with something, pot would never do that even to a newbie smoker... I mean when I first started I used to get pretty paranoid sometimes, but not like that.

 

[TheVaporDaddy]

sounds like some messed up stuff man that doesnt seem normal! i wouldnt go as far as to say that it was laced though i heard that 1 in 50 000 people go nuts from smoking weed ( you cant think of that in a bad way though ) because like 1 in 10 people can die from eating peanut butter

 

[mattybass]

Interestingly enough, I'm among that 1 in 10

 

[momofthegoons]

I've been smoking for over 44 years, have tried many, many varieties and have never had an experience like the one you had. The very first time I got high, it was a bit trippy with paranoia, but nothing I felt out of control with. I think you got dosed.

 

[Raf007]

My brother had a kind of similar experience with a regular weed when he was around 17.

I wasn't with him that night, but I know the weed he was smoking coz I gave it to him. So 100% positive it was a regular indica.

While he was going to a party, walking in our neighborhood, he started to have light oral hallucinations, felt his legs super mellow, felt like something was going really wrong, like he couldn't breath.
He had to seat on the side walk with his friend trying to calm him down. It lasted maybe a couple of hours max befre he could start feeling better.

He stopped smoking weed after that coz it gaves him panic attacks and little annoying stuff.
He only takes a small puff once a year if he happens to stop by and I have a nice tasty weed... and it's only for the taste.

i don't want to be pessimistic or anything here but Weed is almost for everyone, even if it could be called a safe product, some people happen to not react well on weed. It's always good to keep that in mind.

I don't say it's your case here and I don't know, but just wanted to share if it can help.

 

[Plant]

i have that when i smoke salvia mybe there was salvia in there, though salvia should not work in combo with weed, i tried never got any results
but it's probably some Dissociative you smoked
could also bee laced with ketamine that also gets the same results as you had
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissociative
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketamine

 

[momofthegoons]

Raf, your story reminded me of an old friend of mine that stopped smoking for similar reasons. She just didn't enjoy what the high was doing for her any more. She had enjoyed it in her teens and early 20's, but once she hit her 30's, it didn't agree with her anymore. I had completely forgotten about that.

Yes. While herb is for many, not all enjoy. Nothing wrong with that. If you feel you are up to it mlid, you could try again. But there's no shame in saying hey, it's just not my thing.

 

[mlid]

Do drug dealers commanly lace weed with keramine? What r other drugs they combine? Thanks

 

[Lycanthrope]

Once in South East Asia, I had what was called a "Bonsong Bomber", it was laced with opium. You talk about couch lock, this was way beyond couch lock, I couldn't get up and everything was moving in slow motion, lasted about 8 hours and I went into a deep sleep. Then in the early 80's I had a joint that turned out to be laced with something that my son and his friends knew about, and I didn't. He and his friends fired up the joint and passed it around. I took my hits and then got really loaded very similar to what I experienced in SE Asia. They all thought it was pretty funny, and I was way too loaded to object. I kind of think that anyone that has smoked or vaped for some time will know when the MJ is laced as it's a totally different experience. He never did confess as to what it was laced with, but I think some kind of opiate. Not cool!! When you buy off the street you really don't know what youre getting, unless youre dealing with a long standing trusted source. This is a good argument for the legalization of MJ; you wouldn't have to worry about getting something laced or sprayed with some insecticide.

 

[aero18]

Drug dealers almost never lace their weed because of the increase in needless costs. They would advertise the weed as being laced if they would sell it to you, because the drug that it is laced with usually costs a bit more.

That being said, it is very unlikely that you had laced weed. It is more likely that you suffered a panic attack from getting very high.

 

[Raf007]

But why a drug dealer would do that ?
It's obvious to the user, is not addictive as crack or ice, and is a little costy.

I'm curious to know how to cut weed with ketamine w.out it being obvious though. is there a way ??

@mom
the 30s crisis is also common lol. i have a few friends around that quit for the same reason as your friend. One of them still do a lot of other products but no weed coz of the anxiety. I think at a certain point and age it also really depends on how stable in your head and life you are.

If i may ask ? did you had weed again since that time and how old are you mlid ?

 

[Plant]

Do drug dealers commanly lace weed with keramine? What r other drugs they combine? Thanks

normaly no i was only saying that ketamine produces the same effect as you had
i never encountered ketamine laced weed and it's probably not laced with ketamine in you're case but i wouldn't be surprised if somebody does it somewhere

i have on occasion had a very trippy experience with some weeds last week vape some NYCDhaze hybrid and that shit sent me into a trip: closed eye 3d halluce and open eye warping lucid dreaming
but never the effect you discribe they are exactly the same as a Dissociative drug

over here they do cut coke with ketamine mix as a party drug???
you should see them on it it's like watching the Ether scene in "fear and loathing in las vegas"

@lycanthrope i smoked that opium laced hash we call it black Bombay you can cut hash with wild lettuce sap but it's not that strong as with opium but it gets the job done

 

[HumanBeing]

The OP could also have had a pre-existing low-level 24-hour fever or infection that was brought to the fore by the weed. This is probably the most likely explanation. I've been smoking for 42 years and I've only ever had an experience like this twice - once on pure opium, and once on opium-laced hash. I loved it, but I can appreciate how distressing it could be to someone who wasn't expecting it.

But there are also people who shouldn't smoke at all, or do any psychoactive substances (I'm not suggesting that the OP is one of these, just mentioning this in passing). An ex-girlfriend of mine was one - she became totally paranoid in a very bizarre way every time she smoked. I know of another case where a guy dropped acid and became convinced he could fly. He jumped off a roof and broke both legs. In both cases it later transpired that these two people had long-term underlying mental problems.

So this stuff doesn't make you nuts, but it will certainly strip the mask off if you already are.

Funny old world, ain't it?

 

[GreenLeaf]

You just got too high and it sounds like you had a panic attack or anxiety based on what you wrote.

People usually do not lace herb and smoking Ketamine does not work.

It does not sound like you had wet/dust or PCP either. PCP is generally put on very crappy herb like stuff worse than Mexican schwag full of seeds, and even if the person you got the herb from didn't tell you that dust was on there-again this is rare since they'd be hypothetically giving you a more expensive drug for free, you'd be able to smell it and taste it.

 

[Budz Bunny]

I have had simular reactions to too much caffeine. Too many no-doze and I thought my heart was going to beat through my chest. Scary stuff.

 

[Budz Bunny]

sounds like some messed up stuff man that doesnt seem normal! i wouldnt go as far as to say that it was laced though i heard that 1 in 50 000 people go nuts from smoking weed ( you cant think of that in a bad way though ) because like 1 in 10 people can die from eating peanut butter

Maybe it was laced with peanut butter?

 

[kimbo]

i am an infrequent user of marijuana, but yesterday, i had a very scary experience. i smoked from a pipe with a friend. she was okay. but i reacted terribly. my sense of perception disappeared. i kept seeing psychedelic patterns in front of my eyes. i could not feel my limbs. my balance went, and i passed out. i came quickly to because my head crashed into a table beside me. it took me hours to get a grip again. but i was sleepy. and i never felt okay until next morning ... still the fear was there.

does anyone know what happened?

i usually had difficulty getting a buzz; now, i feel afraid to try again.

i am for the right of anyone to choose what they put in their body; however, as for myself -- i repeat -- i am afraid. maybe i am juts highly susceptible. my friend seemed okay. but i couldn't really know

 

[steiner666]

oops double post

 

[steiner666]

i am an infrequent user of marijuana, but yesterday, i had a very scary experience. i smoked from a pipe with a friend...

So last night i smoked a bowl out of my bubbler...

Not to be a vapornazi, but you guys should try taking the sites slogan to heart and stop combusting if you're having such unpleasant experiences with it.

One of the reasons i like vaping herb is because its much easier to detect the taste of any additives IMO. One time i vaped this stuff that smelled really dank, real piney and minty, but had a really bad chemical aftertaste that was so obvious. Me and anyone i vaped it with got stoned initially, but quickly felt burnt out and then nauseated. I dont know if it was pesticides or if the grower was using some nasty nutes and didnt flush proper or if it was laced, but i told the guy i got it off of to never sell me shit like that again or he'd lose my business. Havent had any nasty tasting/feeling stuff since.

Hey, if weed was legal, we wouldnt have to worry about this shit because we wouldnt have to get it off of these shady individuals.

 

[Raf007]

It's hard to help you here, with so little facts.

But given that you friend reacted normally (u really really should ask her btw) I would say that it's not the product the reason but the end user, ie. you. Seriously I don't c why one would laced weed w. something psychedelic. Or it was a prank which doesnn't seem likely.

So I would advise you to be carefull, and if you use MJ again use a more indica strain and not a super potent one... That's if you have access to choice of course...

Lately we had have laced weed in Europe, and it was never cut with something that gives you a psychedelic high. tchek some youtube vids.
The laced weed we have is hard, and i mean really hard to burn, makes really greasy char, and weigh more.. or has sugar for ex.

As Steiner666 wrote laced weed is easier to notice when vaped.
For ex, I had a weed who tasted alright smoked or at the beginning of a vaping session but the ABVs smelled like greasy chicken !

 

[GreenLeaf]

i am an infrequent user of marijuana, but yesterday, i had a very scary experience. i smoked from a pipe with a friend. she was okay. but i reacted terribly. my sense of perception disappeared. i kept seeing psychedelic patterns in front of my eyes. i could not feel my limbs. my balance went, and i passed out. i came quickly to because my head crashed into a table beside me. it took me hours to get a grip again. but i was sleepy. and i never felt okay until next morning ... still the fear was there.

does anyone know what happened?

i usually had difficulty getting a buzz; now, i feel afraid to try again.

i am for the right of anyone to choose what they put in their body; however, as for myself -- i repeat -- i am afraid. maybe i am juts highly susceptible. my friend seemed okay. but i couldn't really know

You just got very high on THC and probably had some anxiety or a panic attack thrown in.

How much herb did you smoke? You say you don't use herb all that often so your tolerance is going to be very low.

Maybe you did what some people call "pulling a whitey" where you smoke too much at once and then pass out from it?

I've seen visuals from just smoking herb and had it mess with my peripheral vision but I found all of this to be very fun!

I've also gotten so high I had lots of trouble moving and doing simple things like walking since everything seemed tilted or spinning but I just smoked lots of herb with a friend who had a tolerance in a short period of time, and none of the herb was laced with PCP or wet/dust.

I've never used PCP or what we call wet/dust and I have no desire to but friends of mine who have in very large amounts on purpose and small and moderate amounts of the drug and it's not like tripping on THC or the psychedelic effects you get from vaping/smoking herb.

 

[kimbo]

Thanks everyone. I think GreenLeaf has the most likely explanation. I had only inhaled about 6 times from the pipe, and one symptom was deep anxiety, which I had never experienced before.
Anyway, I feel okay now.
But probably I am a susceptible type, and it is best if I stay away to avoid another bad trip.

 

[DevoTheStrange]

I've only felt like the way you have described if I over do it. Whether it be vaping, smoking, or edibles... when its way too high of a dose I usually have some if not all of the things described above happen to me.

And as far as laced herb goes, I have knowingly tried laced herb before with different substances... the tastes on each them are very noticeably not herb. Usually it is a blatant taste mixed in with the herb, or it comes in as an aftertaste that tastes nothing like herb at all.

I think the worst time I ever had was PCP laced joint... I knew it was laced, just didn't know it was laced with PCP. Taste was subtle, not enough for me to identify the chemical, just enough to know it had been added. Then I had one of the worst highs i can remember, 2 hour panic attack.

 

[GreenLeaf]

Thanks everyone. I think GreenLeaf has the most likely explanation. I had only inhaled about 6 times from the pipe, and one symptom was deep anxiety, which I had never experienced before.
Anyway, I feel okay now.
But probably I am a susceptible type, and it is best if I stay away to avoid another bad trip.

Just don't smoke as much all at once. Take 1-2 small hits from a pipe or vaporizer and see what that's like.