Awful taste Bho

[Honeyconsumer]

For the record, i am very very new to this. Is there anyone who has any suggestions as to how I would be able to blast my flower with butane & still keep the d-Limonene in my liquid afterwards, I have no vac, & I have been using evrclear, unbleached coffee filters, & the winterization method. I Dont see why i am losing so much flavor.
I have also been doing the evap process(because no vac) on a Pyrex dish under a boiling pot of water.

Totally noobish feeling here guys. & need help. Just got some perple flowers today & I REALLY REALLY would like to keep the flavor of this next one.

 

[DabDiva]

Your probably burning/ruining all the terps if your water is boiling hot. The water used to evaporate the butane/alcohol should be no more than around 100 degrees F

The process might take longer for some heavy weight, but try the Rosin technique. No risk of butane, alcohol, or burnt terps taste

there is no risk of inhaling that shit either

plus you need less materials. Grab a hair straightener and sum parchment paper then your good to go

 

[Honeyconsumer]

Your probably burning/ruining all the terps if your water is boiling hot. The water used to evaporate the butane/alcohol should be no more than around 100 degrees F

The process might take longer for some heavy weight, but try the Rosin technique. No risk of butane, alcohol, or burnt terps taste

there is no risk of inhaling that shit either

plus you need less materials. Grab a hair straightener and sum parchment paper then your good to go

I've tried the rosin & every time that I try it I end up with a brown stuck together substance that used to be my beautiful nug & no yummy too from it lol.

 

[DabDiva]

I've tried the rosin & every time that I try it I end up with a brown stuck together substance that used to be my beautiful nug & no yummy too from it lol.

hmm im not sure what the issue is but a few guesses could be :

squish smaller sized nugs. each nug on separate pieces of pre cut parchment paper

make sure you are using correct parchment paper

check to make sure you have the correct hair straightener temperature

apply the correct amount and length of pressure

and finally my last guess/suggestion would be the nugs/strain of marijuana you are using just doesn't yield Rosin very well (as particular strains yield more than others)

 

[Honeyconsumer]

hmm im not sure what the issue is but a few guesses could be :

squish smaller sized nugs. each nug on separate pieces of pre cut parchment paper

make sure you are using correct parchment paper

check to make sure you have the correct hair straightener temperature

apply the correct amount and length of pressure

and finally my last guess/suggestion would be the nugs/strain of marijuana you are using just doesn't yield Rosin very well (as particular strains yield more than others)

I really just wish I could extract & keep terps.

My errl tastes like booboo, but it does the job.

 

[DabDiva]

I really just wish I could extract & keep terps.

My errl tastes like booboo, but it does the job.

it is a lot easier/quicker to blast

Try a smaller run and try keeping your water under 100 degrees F. Should keep all the terps intact

i hate doo doo dabs also as I've run across a few lately that were given to me. i ended up vaping (not dabbing) them at around 375 degrees F, which successfully prevented me from inhaling/tasting whatever nasty shit was wrong with my wax. Give that a try too foo

 

[Honeyconsumer]

Is winterization nessicary along with filtering, or do I even need to do those due to the sole fact of keeping the terps in?

 

[DabDiva]

Is winterization nessicary along with filtering, or do I even need to do those due to the sole fact of keeping the terps in?

strictly talking terps? Nah

winterization is to remove the lipids (fats, waxes, gross shit you dont want)

the reason your bho taste bad is because either :

a. the material (marijuana) is trim or not top shelf
b. you have left butane or alcohol in the bho
c. you damaged and destroyed all your terps (flavor) by evaporating with boiling hot water. this boiling hot water is going to damage and possibly remove all good flavors (terps) in your bho.

i would assume your issue is option C

think about it this way:

if you damaged all of the THC, you would not get a good effect
So if you also damage all of the terps, you will not get a good flavor

hope this helps

 

[kellya86]

What butane did you use???

I use colibri...

I didn't vote as I want flavour and effects, and that's not so much to ask for,, is it???

Last time I made bho I did it with fesh frozen good trim...

And the taste was out of this world....
A smell I only get while growing came through and it was beautiful...

Like others have said, I think it's the purge you are getting wrong...
Slow and warm is better than fast and hot...

Try not using a heat source, just keep adding hot kettles to a dish to purge out, this way you can insure you never exceed 100 degrees...

If you do this and get left with some tasty bho, then you know it's you purge temp destroying terps and flavs.

 

[seaofgreens]

If you have no vac and have been using everclear to de-wax...

Why not just make QWET instead?

This would be the easiest solution for someone with your set up. Butane extraction essentially requires vac-purge where if you just do a quick ethanol wash, you are much safer with calling it after a double-boiler purge or even a simple air-dry depending on your standards/needs. You won't risk having those nasty hydrocarbons remaining from butane, which is the main point.

I also find my QWET runs tastier than any professional bho I have sampled, (Bolder, Mahatma, 303 extracts to name a few.)

 

[iDRINKBLEACH]

Sounds like cheap butane...maybe use less heat and something with more of a stable heat. It may be spiking and burning terps away?

 

[420time]

cheap butane dont mean its bad. have you looked through the butane test reports of people conducting test on different types of butanes. The cheap Neon ones or ignitus(yellow and red can with the 1 looking thing on front) ones are reported to be fine and so around 3x refined, meanwhile the 5x refined butane out there have same or even higher rating or contaminants. More likely the purge, when your done with the butane escaping the bho, just scrape onto parchment paper and heat purge it again, then get it all into a silicone container, placing it ontop of the enail coil at 150f or so for an hour, purges pretty well for me. Made some bomb GDP, which was just golden, and then i heated it at around 200+f, turned all dark, goopy but still has that amazing flavor but lost the smell when you open the container.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275567

 

[iDRINKBLEACH]

cheap butane dont mean its bad. have you looked through the butane test reports of people conducting test on different types of butanes. The cheap Neon ones or ignitus(yellow and red can with the 1 looking thing on front) ones are reported to be fine and so around 3x refined, meanwhile the 5x refined butane out there have same or even higher rating or contaminants. More likely the purge, when your done with the butane escaping the bho, just scrape onto parchment paper and heat purge it again, then get it all into a silicone container, placing it ontop of the enail coil at 150f or so for an hour, purges pretty well for me. Made some bomb GDP, which was just golden, and then i heated it at around 200+f, turned all dark, goopy but still has that amazing flavor but lost the smell when you open the container.

https://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=275567

Sorry didnt mean "cheap" I meant low quality in blasting stand point of view. I buy cans of tane when I can't afford vector for 2.50 USD for cans of lets say hitman or other less valuable. If your using Robinolt or Link which really cost more BUT I'd call it cheap or crappy BHO tane
I usually stick to vector 14x and always get awesome results so I continue to send them my arms n legs

 

[Honeyconsumer]

So basically I've been doing everything right except evap?.. I used $2 a can & $10 a can butane. After blast product still remains consistent with the other.

But I believe you guys are right, instead of slow evap, I have been scorching the terps with a boiling hot evap. I'm going to try this in the next few days & I will for sure let all of you awesome people who helped me know how it turns.

Thank you FC community.

 

[iDRINKBLEACH]

Good luck. Patience is perfection while extracting if your like me I usually start a new batch of concentrates when I got about a gram or two left just so I don't rush through it to smoke. I only have means of smoking concentrates, so me running out only makes me rush. I have some qwet I made using 17g of 120u kief purging ill post in appropriate thread when its done 3 more hours. Dark amber liquid. Rosin is almost out

 

[Honeyconsumer]

I was taught a very very shakey "home special" method. That I have had to tweak from the blasting method to evap as a whole countless amount of times now, I really just hope this perfects it. I appreciate you guys.

One love.✌

 

[smokum]

What about the so far not mentioned ?

What device(s) are you using that's registering the 'bad taste' ?

 

[Honeyconsumer]

What's the best way to tell what temp your water is without a thermometer? Should I heat it until I see steam coming from it? Or let the water set at a cooler temp? Any hastey comments would help. Evap is to start in 30 minutes or so.

 

[kellya86]

If you kept using kettle water you can insure it never exceeds 100 degrees.

I do it regularly with kettle water and keep replacing it every 10 mins or so..depending on how quick it cools....

I get very very tasty bho like this..

Hastey...

 

[iDRINKBLEACH]

What's the best way to tell what temp your water is without a thermometer? Should I heat it until I see steam coming from it? Or let the water set at a cooler temp? Any hastey comments would help. Evap is to start in 30 minutes or so.

I never trust myself with that kind of stuff I'm pretty OCD about it. They are about $3 at local stores Id trust a meat therm more then my finger Great cheap investment.
To answer your though I pulled this off a cooking site

Tepid Water - 85 to 105°F. The water is comparable to the temperature of the human body.

Warm Water - 115 to 120°F. The water is touchable but not hot.
anything at 130 will cause harm to you and your bho

 

[Honeyconsumer]

Let us all now cross our fingers & hope that the honeyconsumer doesn't burn their terps. Cheers guys! I'll give feedback when process is done.

 

[Honeyconsumer]

Okay so I broke down & bought a thermo . what is the temp in which I am not trying to pass?

 

[iDRINKBLEACH]

Okay so I broke down & bought a thermo . what is the temp in which I am not trying to pass?

don't go over 120 I usually leave it at about 110 gives you a little room for temp spiking.

 

[Honeyconsumer]

I've been teetering between 80-90 F
& after the first pour.. The smell, I wish you guys could smell this stuff man. & the taste is AMAZING. I truthfully thank everyone who helped. If I ever meet you guys, I owe you a big slab. Awesome works guys!

 

[kellya86]

Glad to see you got some tasty results...
Enjoy...