Jill NYC
Portable Hoarder
Hey there FC’s.
I finally decided to do something with all my ABV and wanted to share my ongoing journey and ask a few questions.
Water Curing:
I took all my ABV and water cured it using @Sneaky Pete video as a guide (which was so helpful AND entertaining)
I split it all into 4 jars about 3/4 filled with ABV and added water. I used cheese cloth to drain out dirty water (used same cloth for each round so there was minimal waste stuck to cheese cloth)
It took me 8 rounds to get mostly clear water (about 4 hours each time, a few of which were overnight)
Then I put parchment paper on huge baking sheet, spread out the goods and heated on 170 F.
I checked and stirred every hour and after 3 full hours, went up to 195F for another hour and 15 minutes.
I’m not sure of the weight before hand but after curing I had about 46 grams of clean, dry ABV.
At first I was just going to make some cannaoil with it, but since the potency of ABV is impossible to know until you’ve baked, consume and wait for it to be metabolized, I thought I‘d make some tincture and use sublingually to quickly gauge potency. That way it would be easy to know how much ABV to coconut oil I should use.
Making Tincture:
I have read about 50 articles on how to make tinctures - many of them say you need to soak for weeks and weeks (shaking once a day), but I choose to believe this Ardent Study that says 80% of goodies get extracted after just 3 hours, so 24 hours should be plenty of time.
I started with room temp Everclear (190 proof) and ABV and made three tinctures:
1 - 3.5g ABV + 4 oz EC
2 - 7.0g ABV + 4 oz EC
3 - 3.5g ABV + 2 oz EC (enough to cover AVB only)
I gave them each a 2 minute shake, put them in cabinet and over next 24 hours, I gave periodic shakings.
Then I strained out all the ABV.
I also have some ABV and EC in freezer, planning on testing out the frozen method one of these days, if I can ever figure out approximate potency.
After a night out of moderate drinking, I used a syringe I usually use to give my dog medicine (of course I cleaned it well first!) and put about 2ml of #2 under my tongue……………………………………………………………………………….
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HOLY FUCK, that shit BURNS!!!!
I mean WTF? Who can tolerate this??????
I tried a few times, but never lasted more than a few seconds before I had to swallow it.
I may or may not have felt effects from it. But I did feel a buzz for a couple of hours (could have just been the adrenaline from the shock of administering it along with earlier cocktails )
I will say the water cure did an amazing job - it tastes like weed, not AVB, so at least one success.
Today I tried about 2ml of #3. Slightly less painful, maybe b/c the shock wore off and/or less alcohol… I was able to mix enough saliva to decrease burn a bit.
It kind of foams up a bit - pretty gross. Not sure if I could ever recommend this to any of my friends (or enemies.)
Anyhow, feel a small buzz, nothing major, but pleasant enough.
I guess I need to try more than 2ml, which I will do at some point, once my mouth forgives me.
FECO calls:
So, sifting though the inter webs again, I decided I need to turn that tincture into FECO, so I am currently trying to evaporate #2.
I have lid off, next to a fan for 2 hours so far, not sure how long it will take. Will follow up when it done.
Anyone use FECO sublingually?
Any tips on dosage?
How to administer? I saw that using a glass syringe like this one is the way to go. But if so, what size needle do I need to administer?
Is FECO even worth it? How else do people use it?
If not, any ideas on what to do next with the tincture? Any hints to make it less harsh?
Any similar or different experiences?
if you read this whole thing, THANKS!
I finally decided to do something with all my ABV and wanted to share my ongoing journey and ask a few questions.
Water Curing:
I took all my ABV and water cured it using @Sneaky Pete video as a guide (which was so helpful AND entertaining)
I split it all into 4 jars about 3/4 filled with ABV and added water. I used cheese cloth to drain out dirty water (used same cloth for each round so there was minimal waste stuck to cheese cloth)
It took me 8 rounds to get mostly clear water (about 4 hours each time, a few of which were overnight)
Then I put parchment paper on huge baking sheet, spread out the goods and heated on 170 F.
I checked and stirred every hour and after 3 full hours, went up to 195F for another hour and 15 minutes.
I’m not sure of the weight before hand but after curing I had about 46 grams of clean, dry ABV.
At first I was just going to make some cannaoil with it, but since the potency of ABV is impossible to know until you’ve baked, consume and wait for it to be metabolized, I thought I‘d make some tincture and use sublingually to quickly gauge potency. That way it would be easy to know how much ABV to coconut oil I should use.
Making Tincture:
I have read about 50 articles on how to make tinctures - many of them say you need to soak for weeks and weeks (shaking once a day), but I choose to believe this Ardent Study that says 80% of goodies get extracted after just 3 hours, so 24 hours should be plenty of time.
I started with room temp Everclear (190 proof) and ABV and made three tinctures:
1 - 3.5g ABV + 4 oz EC
2 - 7.0g ABV + 4 oz EC
3 - 3.5g ABV + 2 oz EC (enough to cover AVB only)
I gave them each a 2 minute shake, put them in cabinet and over next 24 hours, I gave periodic shakings.
Then I strained out all the ABV.
I also have some ABV and EC in freezer, planning on testing out the frozen method one of these days, if I can ever figure out approximate potency.
After a night out of moderate drinking, I used a syringe I usually use to give my dog medicine (of course I cleaned it well first!) and put about 2ml of #2 under my tongue……………………………………………………………………………….
…………………………………….………
……………………………………………………………
HOLY FUCK, that shit BURNS!!!!
I mean WTF? Who can tolerate this??????
I tried a few times, but never lasted more than a few seconds before I had to swallow it.
I may or may not have felt effects from it. But I did feel a buzz for a couple of hours (could have just been the adrenaline from the shock of administering it along with earlier cocktails )
I will say the water cure did an amazing job - it tastes like weed, not AVB, so at least one success.
Today I tried about 2ml of #3. Slightly less painful, maybe b/c the shock wore off and/or less alcohol… I was able to mix enough saliva to decrease burn a bit.
It kind of foams up a bit - pretty gross. Not sure if I could ever recommend this to any of my friends (or enemies.)
Anyhow, feel a small buzz, nothing major, but pleasant enough.
I guess I need to try more than 2ml, which I will do at some point, once my mouth forgives me.
FECO calls:
So, sifting though the inter webs again, I decided I need to turn that tincture into FECO, so I am currently trying to evaporate #2.
I have lid off, next to a fan for 2 hours so far, not sure how long it will take. Will follow up when it done.
Anyone use FECO sublingually?
Any tips on dosage?
How to administer? I saw that using a glass syringe like this one is the way to go. But if so, what size needle do I need to administer?
Is FECO even worth it? How else do people use it?
If not, any ideas on what to do next with the tincture? Any hints to make it less harsh?
Any similar or different experiences?
if you read this whole thing, THANKS!