Aromed 4.0

[Max_aro]

Hey,

I own the aromed for quite a moment now and, like dormouse, use it at 180-185 degrees. I have to say I love it. I tried a volcano at a friend's place but didn't find it as enjoyable as the aromed. I found the vapor a bit harsh.

Is there any other whip vape delivering a smooth vapor like the aromed ?

What about the SSV ? Does anybody own both ?
It looks good but seems to deliver very strong vapor hits that would probably make me cough like the volcano. Adding a water filtration system wouldn't really be an option for me.

That's why, I'm still questioning myself if it makes sense to buy another vape as the aromed vapor is already one of the best.

 

[Timothy]

I own the aromed for quite a moment now and, like dormouse, use it at 180-185 degrees. I have to say I love it. I tried a volcano at a friend's place but didn't find it as enjoyable as the aromed. I found the vapor a bit harsh.

Is there any other whip vape delivering a smooth vapor like the aromed ?.

The Aromed is water filtered, so start by looking at vapes that are water filtered or can be used with a waterpipe.
I have had a few sesh with the Aromed and found for my use that the bowl was too large and the amount of herb, and had to adjust the temp too high too get any decent sized clouds, but by the middle of the bowl it would get a toasty taste from that bulb always radiating heat on my herb.

If the Aromed is treating you right then stick with Aromed, switching to a SSV will give you thicker vapor but you might find it harsh without hooking it up to a water pipe.

 

[luchiano]

The Aromed is water filtered, so start by looking at vapes that are water filtered or can be used with a waterpipe.
I have had a few sesh with the Aromed and found for my use that the bowl was too large and the amount of herb, and had to adjust the temp too high too get any decent sized clouds, but by the middle of the bowl it would get a toasty taste from that bulb always radiating heat on my herb.

If the Aromed is treating you right then stick with Aromed, switching to a SSV will give you thicker vapor but you might find it harsh without hooking it up to a water pipe.

With the Aromed the bowl is large because it is needs the space to make sure the air has a reserve, as this makes sure you have the actual temperature you dialed in, and not just the temperature of the heater. With most vaporizers, they just measure the temperature of the heater but, they don't take into account the fact that once air leaves the area around the heater it will drop in temperature quickly. The only vaporizer I can think of that allows the air to stay in contact with the heat, while still having a large of enough space to heat up, and stay consistent with accurate temperature control is hippie dickie's cube.

With this picture of the Aromed, you will notice that there is a big space between the heater, and the herb. If you look at it keenly that space is not unoccupied space but hot air that is in reserve waiting to extract the substances from the herb. This is why loading a small amount of herb is better then more, you will have more air that is heated up to temperature(when it is away from the heater) which will allow a quick and even extraction. You will also get less condensation(clouds) because the actives that are released will still be in contact with the temperature that they boil at, and not a temperature below that, which will allow the active to cool off get slower, and ultimately condense onto each other forming a cloud. Plus, the fact that the size of the water chamber, and whip, are so small they allow for everything to travel at a high speed preventing less condensation to take place. Don't get me wrong it can still happen if you start at high temperatures or use too much herb but when done in a certain manner it will be so small it's barely noticeable.

Another thing that should be noted is the unoccupied space is nearly the same size as the occupied space of the herb. This is will allow the accurately heated air to occupy all of the space of the herb, and this is why the makers can claim to know the temperature of the herb inside the herb. Now, this isn't entirely true if the herb is real moist since moisture absorbs heat, or when it is real dense as the density allows it to stay cool, but when dealing with dry herb that is nicely ground,this can be done. This is why they tell you to inhale at a specific rate, inhale long, and give you the blinking red dot to guide you. It keeps the airflow to stay at a consistent rate, and keeps the volume of air to stay at a particular size, so the air will be at the proper temperature once it leaves the heating chamber.

 

[luchiano]

Mods I tried to edit my original post but, I don't see an edit button:

I realize I posted the Aromed needs that space but, it doesn't "need" it, it's just better for a quicker extraction, due to more air being up to temperature before it hits the herb. The Aromed is basically going by how much airflow is going into the herbholder to maintain temperature. You can use a lot but, you will get more condensation due to more actives that are being boiled will be forced to bounce into each other from the herb chamber being so dense causing condensation, and it will take longer due to the air needing more time to go through the herb being that it's so much more herb needing to be extracted.

The more I look at the Aromed the more I love it for being so unique among other vaporizers. I can't think of any other vaporizer that is using how much air you take in to calculate how much the temperature needs to adjust. Other vaporizers just measure the heater temperature, and try to maintain that temperature in different ways. Most vaporizers are still good though just may take a little longer to achieve proper temperature, so you will need good techniques to use them for efficient extraction but, they are still better then smoking.

 

[turosribizli]

hey everyone,just bought the aromed machine,everythings working fine just one defect : like TheJudge sayed ,the heating element and the herb holder does not make the klick sound when i push them together,its loose,im wondering if its a big problem,am i loosing to much effectivity with this prob.shoud i send it back?(and can i send it to germany or to the shop where i bought it?)well i feel a litte upset from the build qvality,it was a lot of money and for that money i think nobody wants to get a product with defects,yes we all make mistakes,but there shoud be a fucking supervisor in the company to test the products before they send it to customers.
Thanks so much

 

[luchiano]

hey everyone,just bought the aromed machine,everythings working fine just one defect : like TheJudge sayed ,the heating element and the herb holder does not make the klick sound when i push them together,its loose,im wondering if its a big problem,am i loosing to much effectivity with this prob.shoud i send it back?(and can i send it to germany or to the shop where i bought it?)well i feel a litte upset from the build qvality,it was a lot of money and for that money i think nobody wants to get a product with defects,yes we all make mistakes,but there shoud be a fucking supervisor in the company to test the products before they send it to customers.
Thanks so much

It's not suppose to click and stick like a usb in it's socket so that may be why it's throwing you off but, maybe you do have a defect. Email Aromed directly and ask them, they should get back to you quickly.

 

[turosribizli]

thanks Luchiano,i saw on videos that it should make a little click when you push them together,but the problem with mine is , that you cant put them together properly,its too loose to hold together and air is comin from sides into the herb holder(maybe the herb holders width is shorter),if i put my fingers on the 2 little holes on the heating element and draw ,it makes no difference if i pulling it without cowering those 2 holes,cause the air wich i draw is comin from the sides and not trough those 2 holes wich,i think is supposed to come from.thanks anyway

 

[luchiano]

thanks Luchiano,i saw on videos that it should make a little click when you push them together,but the problem with mine is , that you cant put them together properly,its too loose to hold together and air is comin from sides into the herb holder(maybe the herb holders width is shorter),if i put my fingers on the 2 little holes on the heating element and draw ,it makes no difference if i pulling it without cowering those 2 holes,cause the air wich i draw is comin from the sides and not trough those 2 holes wich,i think is supposed to come from.thanks anyway

I just realized you probably didn't connect the herbholder properly. Try this, and see if it fixes your problem:

Frank Fuchs of AroMed said: I have attached a foto to show how you can provide a good setting of the heater grip. Hold the grip tight to the herbholder and bend back the gooseneck.

Look at the gooseneck as the legs of the heater, and pushes it into the herbholder.

I think the Aromed makers should be more direct in how to connect the heater with the herb holder because, this is a major isssue with new users.

 

[turosribizli]

thanks Luciano,i tried it allready,but this is not the problem what i have,i just cant put them together ,you should be able to put them together without any force,just a click an it stays in there,even in the air,without using the water chamber,but mine stays not ,it just fell off..so it must be the prob with the herb holders width,maybe the guy in the glass fabric was not blowing enough to reach the correct width=))) XD.im just now writing a mail to the aromed crew,thanks luciano,keep on vaping

 

[turosribizli]

sorry for those mistakes,wich-wHich,and i hope you´re not mad Luchiano,i wrote your name also with mistakes,sorry for that,to much hash im my head XD

 

[(We'll call him B)]

i have been thinking that this could be a new portable idea...the fucking intense flashlight in your pocket

The sun is a giant flashlight, Have you tried the solarizer?

 

[elise]

thanks Luchiano,i saw on videos that it should make a little click when you push them together,but the problem with mine is , that you cant put them together properly,its too loose to hold together and air is comin from sides into the herb holder(maybe the herb holders width is shorter),if i put my fingers on the 2 little holes on the heating element and draw ,it makes no difference if i pulling it without cowering those 2 holes,cause the air wich i draw is comin from the sides and not trough those 2 holes wich,i think is supposed to come from.thanks anyway

hi,

i used to have the same problem you described.

thanks to Luchiano, i was able to figure out a way that worked for me. i'll tell the whole story:


my aromed 4.0 was bought in "used" condition. because the aromed is such a well-designed unit, the only part of it that felt "used" was the flexible metal cable (or "gooseneck"). the person who owned it before me surely positioned the gooseneck in a certain way, and left it that way when he was satisfied.

so, whenever i would use the black strap for its intended purpose (keeping the water holder in place), the glass bulb cover always looked like it was positioned at a weird angle. i tried following the pic Luchiano gave, but to no avail.

basically, my solution was to forego the black strap entirely. i set my aromed on the edge of my desk and flipped up the black strap so it was just resting on top of the vaporizer. this way, the gooseneck is 100% defining where the bulb rests (thank you Luchiano). i recommend that you keep a hand on the herb holder while doing this

the result of the above method is that during your toke, you can really understand how to achieve the "perfect air-tight seal".

PS if you are still having trouble, i suggest taking the vaporizer apart and studying the way each piece connects. that is how i reached the above conclusion.

i hope this helps you

 

[turosribizli]

you absolutely right Luchiano,that they should make easyer connection betwenn the herb holder and the heating element,i figured out why not like this,its easy it would give a perfect isolation between them,and il would last for ages(if the rubber is old you could just change it)pretty old but simple method to get a hermetic close.if they can put it on beer tops ,make it small,they could be able to put one on aromed also,or just a scew end :

 

[luchiano]

@turosribizli, I think they didn't go with those designs because, they stated they made the Aromed to be able to go for years without needing repair, and if it does, the aromed can still do it's job because what's needed can be had at any hardware store for cheap like the lightbulb. They also used the heater grip(the white thing) because it is a made from ptfe and can handle high temperature with no off gassing. They wanted the Aromed to be as clean as possible, built rugged, and long lasting.

I'm glad they used what they used, I just wished they would explain how to connect better because, there are so many ways you can do it, and so many ways you can make mistakes.

EDIT: Eise also gave good advise about just leaving the black strap alone and separating the water chamber from it. I don't like uploading pictures to the net out of paranoia, so I found a picture that can help you understand what elise means:

Using the Aromed like this picture is even better if you need the blinking dot as your guide on how to inhale to keep the temperature precise, and like watching the water bubble.

hi,

i used to have the same problem you described.

thanks to Luchiano, i was able to figure out a way that worked for me. i'll tell the whole story:


my aromed 4.0 was bought in "used" condition. because the aromed is such a well-designed unit, the only part of it that felt "used" was the flexible metal cable (or "gooseneck"). the person who owned it before me surely positioned the gooseneck in a certain way, and left it that way when he was satisfied.

so, whenever i would use the black strap for its intended purpose (keeping the water holder in place), the glass bulb cover always looked like it was positioned at a weird angle. i tried following the pic Luchiano gave, but to no avail.

basically, my solution was to forego the black strap entirely. i set my aromed on the edge of my desk and flipped up the black strap so it was just resting on top of the vaporizer. this way, the gooseneck is 100% defining where the bulb rests (thank you Luchiano). i recommend that you keep a hand on the herb holder while doing this

the result of the above method is that during your toke, you can really understand how to achieve the "perfect air-tight seal".

PS if you are still having trouble, i suggest taking the vaporizer apart and studying the way each piece connects. that is how i reached the above conclusion.

i hope this helps you

Your post, and that picture I posted gave me the idea of using sticky velcro on my water chamber when wanting to use the Aromed at my computer desk, and not worry about the water chamber moving then breaking when not using the black strap. I don't know why I didn't think about this before!. You may like the idea also.

This is the one I'm going to get
http://www.amazon.com/Velcro-Sticky-8-Inches-32-Sets-90348/dp/B0057564PS/ref=pd_sim_op_1

 

[play2GETpaidTUESDAYStoned]

I'm very intrigued by this great product. I just wanted a portable or two for starters, but this one has sold me over the cano. I'd get a cano later for largish parties maybe, but this AROMED is the one for me.

In too cool fashion, I picked yesterday,a WEEDLESS Wednesday to sign up and get an account here. I'm still jonesing, and waiting for a cheque and as well just to check out my mail woman,man she's hot, but I have to play2GETpaidTUESDAYStoned as my band's moto is. So weedless Wednesday has passed but my INH004xp is still waiting to get mated with a home version and this would be my pick for now barring some sort of JESUS walking down from the clouds wth a NEW vape that we all must have secretly known was up there in the clouds hiding somewhere for good luck wrapped up in some awesome shimmerng silver lining of some sort. Yeah, um huh I'll have to get 5, two for each nostril, 2 for each ear hole and one for my mouth. Then I can start breating easy!

 

[BlueHaze]

Hi everyone,
This is my first post. I have a Classic Eterra (sorta old school type vape) that I've been using for about 6 or 7 years now. I'm thinking about getting the Aromed and it seems that people like it.
I am wondering if anyone has used the glass insert intended for oils and what your thoughts on that component are.
Also, does VaporNation seem to be a good place to buy one? I know they have an account on here and people also seem to give them good reviews.
Lastly, anybody ever try the Tulip, which is the product that replaced the Classic Eterra? How's that?
Thanks a lot, glad to have become a part of the community!

 

[luchiano]

Hi everyone,
This is my first post. I have a Classic Eterra (sorta old school type vape) that I've been using for about 6 or 7 years now. I'm thinking about getting the Aromed and it seems that people like it.
I am wondering if anyone has used the glass insert intended for oils and what your thoughts on that component are.
Also, does VaporNation seem to be a good place to buy one? I know they have an account on here and people also seem to give them good reviews.
Lastly, anybody ever try the Tulip, which is the product that replaced the Classic Eterra? How's that?
Thanks a lot, glad to have become a part of the community!

It's a cool product. It's similar to the bubble hash glass screens that was out around 2004/2005. You just need to put a small amount of clean concentrate or essential oils on it. With concentrates to clean it you can torch it or just put it in some alcohol that has been warmed up with a small drop of hot water. Then just shake it around. Once cleaned take it out and dump it in some clean water, shake it around, then take out to air dry.

I never used vapornation but, I think it's best to go to aromed's site and see the people who they suggest you order from so you won't have any problems.

 

[lazylathe]

I just picked one of these up and should have it in a few weeks!!!
It is a second hand unit that i got for under $100.
The guy had it sitting in the box for a year and never used it more than a handful of times.
From the pictures i have of it, it appears to be in pristine condition!

This was one of the first vapes i saw when researching them a few years ago and it has always intrigued me! Now i have my very own unit on the way!

The looks do not distract me from it since i am looking to use it for my medical conditions, so it is perfect!
The Halogen bulb vapes always interest me, very novel way of vaporizing.

I will post a review when i have had it for a while.

One last item:
Having read through the entire thread i would like to get this out in the open:
I am not a scientist, electrician or all knowing about how all my vapes work.
When i read the instructions and follow them and the results are what i need, then i am satisfied.
For me it is a bonus that it is made in Germany, since they have very strict laws regarding medical devices!
I am hoping that the Aromed 4.0 will take my vaping to a new, different level and that it will be in my vape rotation!

Thanks to all the reviewers out there that contributed about their experiences with this unit.
We all have different wants and needs out of our vapes and the affects will vary from person to person.

I am starting to wonder if two threads for every vape is required?
One for user experiences, not too technical
And the other for technical questions where everyone can hash it out and figure out how the vape in question really functions.

I find this thread very hard to read for the first 10+ pages as it got quite unruly and was not very helpful for people looking for honest user reviews.

 

[lazylathe]

The Aromed 4.0 has landed!!!

Test driving it tonight and will leave a short review once i get it all hooked up!

 

[luchiano]

Remember to lube up both the stem of the herb holder, and the water chamber so you won't get glass lock. Also, if you can't connect the heater to the bowl properly just use the connection like the picture I posted, until you figure it out.

 

[lazylathe]

Remember to lube up both the stem of the herb holder, and the water chamber so you won't get glass lock. Also, if you can't connect the heater to the bowl properly just use the connection like the picture I posted, until you figure it out.

Thanks Luchiano!
I will wax the joints to prevent sticking.
Looking forward to test driving this vape tonight!
The only question is what strain to use...

 

[lazylathe]

WOW!!!
This thing works very effectively!!
Don't care about the how or why, it just works very well.

Zero learning curve if you read the manual, got large clouds off the first and every subsequent pull!
Very clean and clear high, makes me forget about all my ailments.
Uses a bit more herb but it is so much fun watching the vapor form only to be sucked up!

I'm off for session 3!

 

[luchiano]

Glad you liked it. You don't have to use that much herb if you don't want to. Just get a tighter screen then the one that comes with it, grind the herb good, use proper temperatures and you will find you need less then think.

 

[lazylathe]

Thanks for the tips with the finer screen size, i will look into some of them.

The only reason i mentioned it used a bit more was because the vape i am making is a real herb miser!
It uses about the same as a Purple Days, so not very much at all.

I will have to try it out and see how it does with such a small amount!

I had a good time with the Aromed last night and look forward to using it more often!

 

[lazylathe]

The Aromed strikes again!
This thing never fails to amaze me!
Very effective and efficient.