Anyone tried out the Element Delux/Table Vaporizer? (Vapman's Big Brother)

[Seren]

Hello there fellow FC'ers! I came across this funky looking vaporizer earlier online:

From what I gather it's big brother to the portable Vapman Vaporizer. Just wondering if anyone here has tried it out?

 

[Buildozer]

cool find seren.. never heard of it, but i like it.. mostly because it looks so different.

i just found one video of it.. it doesn't really show it in action enough though.

edit VVV: looks like we found the same video then .. too bad.. it's the only one i found.. i'd like to see a video that really shows its capabilities off.

 

[Seren]

I like the look of it too, it's really quirky! It's been around for quite some time from the look of things, I found one demo vid from 2008. I'm thinking someone here must have tried it. It's not cheap to buy, so the makers obviously rate it highly.

EDIT: Yep that's the vid I found too, as you say it's a bit lame! Would be great if someone here knew of any better ones.

 

[Tweek]

I don't believe they even make this unit anymore, if I recall correctly.

 

[Seren]

Well I can't see it on their Vapman site - but it's available to buy here:

http://www.verdampftnochmal.de/products/en/vaporizer/element-table-vaporizer.html

Old leftover stock maybe?

 

[Buildozer]

i wouldn't be surprised if it's not being made anymore... but it would be cool if some one has one they can dust off, and show us whats up.

 

[Tweek]

Well I can't see it on their Vapman site - but it's available to buy in a couple of online shops in Europe. Old stock maybe?

I would imagine. Unless he has started making them again...last I heard they were kind of a bomb, so he stuck to making Vapman

 

[Seren]

Ahhh, that's a shame - they look awesome! Given the ingenuity of the Vapman I was starting to get a little excited there!

 

[Richy]

Now I'm thinking about combining a friend's Magick Wand with the arm from a desk lamp to create something similar for a fraction of a cost. It seems like it could be a viable solution to how hot it gets and also would secure it from breakage a bit better. I'm not sure whether it would pull to the side when lifting it up from and placing it back down in the bowl but I'm hoping to end up with some thing similar to what @Rocket did with his LSV here.

 

[max]

In the vaporizer world the Element is ancient. I don't know if they still make it. Vaposhop has a page on it, but says "We don't sell this product anymore." The plug and voltage are also set up for European use.

 

[Seren]

Now I'm thinking about combining a friend's Magick Wand with the arm from a desk lamp to create something similar for a fraction of a cost........ I'm hoping to end up with some thing similar to what @Rocket did with his LSV here.

That sounds like a mighty plan you have there Richy - would love to see a pic once you're done.

In the vaporizer world the Element is ancient. I don't know if they still make it. Vaposhop has a page on it, but says "We don't sell this product anymore." The plug and voltage are also set up for European use.

Yeah I've noticed that a couple of shops state that it's no longer available. Do you have any idea why this particular vaporizer was a flop? Poor marketing? Poor functionality? Or did they just price themselves out of the market?

 

[vapmanjoe]

That sounds like a mighty plan you have there Richy - would love to see a pic once you're done.



Yeah I've noticed that a couple of shops state that it's no longer available. Do you have any idea why this particular vaporizer was a flop? Poor marketing? Poor functionality? Or did they just price themselves out of the market?

I'm only able to speculate, why they took it out of the market, but it's definitly available at verdampftnochmal, i even saw it in real last year in their shop in berlin. it works a little bit like the Aromed, Verdampfer or maybe Herborizer with temp control (3 positions), nevertheless i think it looks like a very unique device like the vapman. but the market ist full off good products and this one is quite pricy. did anyone saw their "third" product named "Element Pocket Vaporizer". works with friction...but also not available anymore at verdampftnochmal. i read an interview in an online newspaper from his hometown "biel" in switzerland and also some comments from a member in another forum who met him, an he seems to be dedicatet to his products. he even invents different types of vapes for his private pleasure... would like to see into his treasure chest
So, i think he concentrated on the vapman because of the better reviews and perhaps it was both for him (respective investment) and us (freaking pleased with this beast) the most efficient vape! True to the motto quality rather than quantity... and i've seen some surprising news for the vapman...

... sorry for my bad gramma

 

[Buildozer]

i forgot about that friction vape.. seemed like a pain to use hah.. interesting though, for sure.

 

[Tweek]

I'm only able to speculate, why they took it out of the market, but it's definitly available at verdampftnochmal, i even saw it in real last year in their shop in berlin. it works a little bit like the Aromed, Verdampfer or maybe Herborizer with temp control (3 positions), nevertheless i think it looks like a very unique device like the vapman. but the market ist full off good products and this one is quite pricy. did anyone saw their "third" product named "Element Pocket Vaporizer". works with friction...but also not available anymore at verdampftnochmal. i read an interview in an online newspaper from his hometown "biel" in switzerland and also some comments from a member in another forum who met him, an he seems to be dedicatet to his products. he even invents different types of vapes for his private pleasure... would like to see into his treasure chest
So, i think he concentrated on the vapman because of the better reviews and perhaps it was both for him (respective investment) and us (freaking pleased with this beast) the most efficient vape! True to the motto quality rather than quantity... and i've seen some surprising news for the vapman...

... sorry for my bad gramma

One of the reasons I bought a Vapman, was my admiration for his dedication to fine craftsmanship. You have to admire a guy, who works so lovingly on each vape.

 

[vapmanjoe]

sorry forgot to introduce myself. I'm quit new to vaporising and till now not participating but reading you're comments at this forum. own a vapman since 2011 but shamefully gave it up to use it quit early because of still combusting and not really appreciating the time needed to learn the joyement of vaping. after quitting smoking cigarettes or combusting mj this year i gave it a chance again and it was sort of a rebirth of rediscovering this wonderful plant. own a herborizer as my stationary device

 

[Tweek]

sorry forgot to introduce myself. I'm quit new to vaporising and till now not participating but reading you're comments at this forum. own a vapman since 2011 but shamefully gave it up to use it quit early because of still combusting and not really appreciating the time needed to learn the joyement of vaping. after quitting smoking cigarettes or combusting mj this year i gave it a chance again and it was sort of a rebirth of rediscovering this wonderful plant. own a herborizer as my stationary device

I wouldn't be ashamed. It happens. But you can get really good at controlling the Vapman with a bit of practice. I generally hit the cone with my torch for about 3 seconds, and then wait 2 seconds, and then hit it another 4 seconds. You only need a small torch lighter for this...anything bigger will be hard to control.

The first hit will be a bit lighter, but as you continue, you should be able to get full hits. I am also a big fan of using in on glass and can get it to milk fairly well.

Long slow draws are key.

 

[vapmanjoe]

yea back to the element deluxe vaporizer... stealthy in a way for a stationary, without the waterfilter you could use it like a bedside lamp ;-)

 

[Seren]

.....it works a little bit like the Aromed, Verdampfer or maybe Herborizer with temp control (3 positions), nevertheless i think it looks like a very unique device like the vapman. but the market ist full off good products and this one is quite pricy........he seems to be dedicatet to his products. he even invents different types of vapes for his private pleasure... would like to see into his treasure chest .........So, i think he concentrated on the vapman because of the better reviews and perhaps it was both for him (respective investment) and us (freaking pleased with this beast) the most efficient vape!

Yes, it does seem very similar in function to the Aromed, but aesthetically I personally way prefer the Element. I love the lamp-like style of it, and that it's made of wood. As you say, the main unit itself would sit nicely on a bedside cabinet or table, and not look at all out of place. For that price you'd expect it to be top notch really. Given the lack of reviews, I'm not surprised people haven't taken the plunge. The Vapman himself sounds like a right Caractacus Potts - it really would be interesting to see what other inventions he's come up with!

One of the reasons I bought a Vapman, was my admiration for his dedication to fine craftsmanship. You have to admire a guy, who works so lovingly on each vape.

The Vapman is indeed beautifully made, and as you say @vapmanjoe very efficient!

.....you can get really good at controlling the Vapman with a bit of practice......Long slow draws are key.

Couldn't agree more. Even though from the off I enjoyed using it, practice makes perfect as they say.

Oh and welcome to the forum @vapmanjoe

 

[mvapes]

I was going to say this is a wooden Aromed. That thing kicked ass, but a bit awkward trying to find it's place on the desk. This would have been a great alternative. That bulb get hot as fuck though, I say this from experience.

 

[TboneToker]

Looks like a Wooden Aromed

 

[VapourHaze]

This vape is alive and well as Rene has stated over in the vapman thread.

I dont know why this doesnt get more love especially from all the woody log heads on fc! As far as i understand the aromed design works well this vape looks amazing and has simpler (more robust) electronics.

So @vapman how much would it cost from you?

Ps. I assume you could make one from exotic woods also

 

[vapman]

@VapourHaze This vaporizer was never on the US market, this is why hardly anybody knows it. I actually sold two units to the States with a 110V ring transformer but I never bothered to enter the market as this vaporizer is commercially not interesting. Because of the high costs of components and manufacturing, it is impossible to get in the chain of resellers and without resellers it is hard to expand and reach the people.

As mentioned before, this vaporizer works with a specially made ring transformer with 3 levels, has no electronics, making it almost ever lasting and completely silent. It is a very good vaporizer, the vapor path is all glass and the heat source is a 50W halogen bulb, no glues and plastics, only wood, glass and mica.
This vape is fun as the user can observe the vapor going through the glass forming beautiful whirls. It is also a very social vape as the silicone hose with the glass mouthpiece can be passed around.
Depending on the wood, it costs between 350 and 500 USD.

Because there are no videos, I decided to make a short demo video in the next two weeks as soon I have a chance.

I keep you posted!

vapman

 

[herbivore21]

@VapourHaze This vaporizer was never on the US market, this is why hardly anybody knows it. I actually sold two units to the States with a 110V ring transformer but I never bothered to enter the market as this vaporizer is commercially not interesting. Because of the high costs of components and manufacturing, it is impossible to get in the chain of resellers and without resellers it is hard to expand and reach the people.

As mentioned before, this vaporizer works with a specially made ring transformer with 3 levels, has no electronics, making it almost ever lasting and completely silent. It is a very good vaporizer, the vapor path is all glass and the heat source is a 50W halogen bulb, no glues and plastics, only wood, glass and mica.
This vape is fun as the user can observe the vapor going through the glass forming beautiful whirls. It is also a very social vape as the silicone hose with the glass mouthpiece can be passed around.
Depending on the wood, it costs between 350 and 500 USD.

Because there are no videos, I decided to make a short demo video in the next two weeks as soon I have a chance.

I keep you posted!

vapman

Wow, tell me Rene is it possible to make the Element with a GonG adapter to connect to glass pieces instead of the silicone whip? How much of a temp range does the Element have? Is it possible to get higher temps (such as those we might have used for high quality hashes in the vapman)?

I would love to buy a vaporizer like this if you can make it, an all glass air path of this kind using a halogen bulb is something I have always wanted!

 

[vapman]

Wow, tell me Rene is it possible to make the Element with a GonG adapter to connect to glass pieces instead of the silicone whip? How much of a temp range does the Element have? Is it possible to get higher temps (such as those we might have used for high quality hashes in the vapman)?

I would love to buy a vaporizer like this if you can make it, an all glass air path of this kind using a halogen bulb is something I have always wanted!

@herbivore21 I don't know the GonG, does it need a conical bore? A lot is possible with that set up, really.

This vape provides all the temperatures needed to vaporize any botanical substances, you can go from very low to close of combustion.

vapman

 

[VapourHaze]

Thanks for your detailed reply as always @vapman i really like the design of this vape i can see myself getting one eventually. I think you would sell more for sure if you put up a video and raise more awareness

I love the design and form. My girlfriend is a designer and she hates my ugly ("stoner/hippie") vapes .. but she loves her ebony vapman . This table lamp is perfect i can actually have a desktop vape out on display that looks beautiful and serves a special purpose.