Anyone from western PA and interested in making vapes?

PaperClouds

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I want to make "stoneware log" vapes, but need someone to help with/make the electronics being that I know nothing about electrical engineering. I really would like to model the heater off the E-Nano. These vapes would be made using stoneware hand thrown on a pottery wheel by me and possibly another person. And before you say they're going to be fragile, there is a difference between stoneware and earthenware. Earthenware consists of things like ceramic and porcelain, which are quite fragile and prone to chipping. Stoneware, like the name implies basically becomes stone when fired, it's much much more durable and chip/heat resistant. The main reason I want to make them out of stoneware is because the customization is endless and clay is fairly cheap, as to keep the price as low as possible, which is also why I want to go log vape style. I want the base model to be the "peoples vape" so to speak; cheap, durable, reliable, efficient while retaining good thick vapor. Smaller units would be able to used with glass while bigger models would be made for the desktop but could have much more customization possibilities. So now the question is, is there anyone out there willing to help?

Being in western PA would be ideal but anyone will to help will be a great help.
 
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wiggles

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I'm in eastern PA. I'm not an electronics genius, but if you're going to make an electronic item I highly recommend learning the basics first. You can check out a book called, "There are no electrons: Electronics for Earthlings." It's a super enjoyable read that teaches electron theory with lots of fun stories and metaphors. It taught me a lot.

Another thing to look into would be an electronics learning lab from radio shack. They're not super expensive (around ~100$).
 
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placetime

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Stoneware log?!? :rockon: Sounds awesome!

If you dig through the different log vape threads (MZ/CRZ, PD (and Purple Days Pandora, especially), UD, WW, HI, etc.), you'll find a lot of info about the very simple design/implentation of the heater element used in most log vapes (only one resistor inside--nothing else). I think you'll find that the electronics part is pretty simple and straightforward. But from what I've read, implementation is actually trickier than it may seem. The body acts as both an insulator and a heatsink, and how much it does those things varies *a lot* depending on the specifics of many factors: how you have it set up, dimensions of and material used for central tubes, shape and thickness of the body, how the material the body is made from holds and conducts heat, etc. My understanding is that all log vape makers have to go through several prototypes before they find the exact combination that produces the correct temperature range.

I don't know nearly as much about the internals of the E-Nano, but I seem to recall that it uses a ceramic heating element that was designed by the guy who makes the E-Nano. I agree that it sounds like a great heater. But, it's proprietary (I think), and, I assume, more expensive and more difficult to replace than the simple resistor used in nearly all other log vapes. IMO, a "people's log vape" would use the simple common resistor heating element used in the CRZ, PD, UD, HI, etc. :2c:
 
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PaperClouds

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Thanks for both of your input. From the time I posted this till now I may have found someone in my area that can help. I'm also going to try and make it as modular as possible, for easy fixing and assembly. Possibly even thinking about make DIY kits in the future so other people can learn the ways of the vape.
 
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