And this is the reason I like my dispensary so much.
- Thread starter lwien
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hopandstop
Well-Known Member
Same here. Too many people are just in it for the money and it sickens me.
moonlit knight
Well-Known Member
Damn I wish I lived in America, then there'd at least be achance for legality where I lived. The closes we've got in the UK is a minor party that want to move it down to class C and they're going to end up giving away power to the Labour party ift hey get in. Sucks man 
HighSti
Vaporist-Secularist
We need a few of these bad boys up here in Seattle.. unfortunately Seattle still has some way to go. I wish I lived in south cal. Life would be so great if you could just walk into a store, pick up some of the dankest stuff you find that fulfills your needs and just take it home, legally. Jealous. 
lwien
Well-Known Member
It'll happen in Seattle. Just gotta give it a bit more time.HighSti said:We need a few of these bad boys up here in Seattle.. unfortunately Seattle still has some way to go. I wish I lived in south cal. Life would be so great if you could just walk into a store, pick up some of the dankest stuff you find that fulfills your needs and just take it home, legally. Jealous.
lwien
Well-Known Member
So CRC just got in a new concentrate called "Gold". Someone asked what it was exactly and this was the answer from the owner.
"It's a fractional distillation of cannabis performed with a vacuum evaporator by one of our members who is an analytical chemist. Vacuum evaporators are often used in the perfume trade to collect temperature-sensitive essential oils from flowers. It is the purest medicinal cannabis concentrate we've found. Comes with a GC/MS printout that shows no trace of adulterants or contaminants. We advise very careful and conservative dosing, since many of the sensory cues associated with cannabis concentrates are absent when using Gold. No taste, no expansion, no coughing. We sold out of last batch very, very quickly."
Although I've never used concentrates before, THIS sounds amazing.
"It's a fractional distillation of cannabis performed with a vacuum evaporator by one of our members who is an analytical chemist. Vacuum evaporators are often used in the perfume trade to collect temperature-sensitive essential oils from flowers. It is the purest medicinal cannabis concentrate we've found. Comes with a GC/MS printout that shows no trace of adulterants or contaminants. We advise very careful and conservative dosing, since many of the sensory cues associated with cannabis concentrates are absent when using Gold. No taste, no expansion, no coughing. We sold out of last batch very, very quickly."
Although I've never used concentrates before, THIS sounds amazing.
finchrock24
Proud MMJ Patient
Lwien...are they taking new patents yet? I usually go to Eagle Rock anyway...
lwien
Well-Known Member
Nope. They've been closed to new patients for over a year now, but they do make exceptions. One, is that if you are terminally or very seriously ill and in dire need of medication. If you are a senior, that helps too. And two, by personal referral from existing members.finchrock24 said:
When I first got my med card, I went to HOK and AEC in Eagle Rock, but CRC is really in a class all their own. Definitely geared towards the medical patient rather than the recreational user. You get a sense of that as soon as you walk in.
When I first became a member, I called them and told them that I was a retired senior and a vet and that I was going in for back surgery and needed some meds for post op pain. Although it was all true, I felt that I had to throw in everything but the kitchen sink to get in.
What I suggest is to give them a call, ask for Mike (morpheus), he's the owner, and explain to him why you would like to become a member and the nature of your illness or injury. If that doesn't work, contact me via email and we'll try to get ya a personal referral.
finchrock24
Proud MMJ Patient
Okay...because I'm more interested in it for an older family member.
I'll PM ya.
I'll PM ya.
lwien
Well-Known Member
So I'm continuing this post only because it sounds kind of interesting.lwien said:
Someone asked if there was any "Gold" left before they drove down, and this was the response:
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Yes, but moving quickly.
Extraordinary news today from the lab... Initial indications from the GC testing are that this batch contains appreciable CBD, perhaps as much as 5%. And there may be significant CBC and CBG, those these two may prove much more difficult to quantify. We'll have more info when the spectrometry is complete. Overall, this is a first for us and we're very pleased.
-morpheus
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I have no idea the percentage breakdown of CBD/CBN's verus THC of typical bud or concentrates. Can anyone offer up any input?
tuttle
Well-Known Member
Wow, that does sound interesting. As for typical bud THC / CBD ratio, it seems most strains are in the VERY rough ballpark of 14-19% THC and 0.0 - 0.4% CBD. The only high CBD stain I have found in LA so far is THC:2.7% /CBD: 5.1% at Herbal Solutions. Their menu is here which has analysis of a few other strains:lwien said:
http://www.herbalsolutionsca.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=689&sid=3bd91602184523478f3c76a4e65dba86
I will have to look more closely into your place if they are starting to carry high CBD items as well as I believe they are a bit closer to me.
Thanks for posting this
AgentGraves007
Well-Known Member
with all those choices that morpheus offers, 1/8th seems like way too much lol. i live in upstate NY and what is being described of the dispensaries makes it sound like ur living in a different country. one that i want to move to.
lwien
Well-Known Member
I know, huh. it's like every time I walk in there, I'm like, "I'll take a gram of this, a gram of that, a gram of this, a gram of that.........". And just when I think, ok, that's enough. I gotta get outta here, morpheus comes out of the backroom and says, "Hey, look what we just got in". Fuck.AgentGraves007 said:
lwien
Well-Known Member
Just dug up the following. While CornerStone offers up some of the best buds and strains that are available in SoCal, they are also very active in the medical community and although they take a pretty conservative approach to medicating with MJ, many of you may find the following information here useful:
Cannabis dosage, purity, side effects and drug interactions
Cornerstone Research Collective - 2008
We are not physicians or pharmacists. This material is provided solely because there is virtually no information provided to medicinal marijuana patients in California concerning the dosage, purity, potential side effects and drug interactions associated with medicinal cannabis use. This information is not intended to be prescriptive and has not been approved by the FDA, NIDA, or anyone that owns a mug with initials on it.
Dosage - Inexperienced users of medicinal cannabis often use more cannabis than needed to address their symptoms. Because cannabis is relatively nontoxic, overdosage is very common. Some ill-informed recreational users have promoted the dosage strategy that "more is cooler" and this ignorance has spread to some medicinal cannabis patients. The key to intelligent medicinal cannabis dosage is to use only enough cannabis to address their symptoms. A recent study confirms that there is a "sweet spot" for medicinal cannabis dosage. Patients in the study that consumed too small a dose received no relief of their symptoms, while patients who overdosed also achieved no relief. Exceeding the "sweet spot" dosage point is a waste of medicine.
Titrating (adjusting) the cannabis dosage seems easiest for patients that choose to smoke cannabis, even though smoking cannabis presents its own specific health issues. One method is to take a single deep inhalation of .1 gram of smoked cannabis, then wait five minutes to gauge the effect of this dose. Holding the smoke in the lungs does not increase the amount of THC that will be absorbed through the lungs, but does increase the amount of toxic tars that will coat the lung passages. Many patients who take large inhalations of smoke and hold their breath subsequently develop chronic lung irritation. With "creeper" strains of cannabis, which have a slower onset of effects, the patient may wish to wait fifteen minutes to assess whether effective dosage has been achieved.
When vaporizing cannabis, it is easier to overdose than when smoking, since the lack of irritation, in comparison with smoking, makes it more likely that too much of the vaporized cannabis ingredients will be inhaled. This lack of precision can be adjusted by carefully weighing the amount of cannabis to be vaporized and using only familiar cannabis strains. Take a single inhalation of vaporized cannabis, exhale and wait five minutes. "Creeper" strains of cannabis are not as easily vaporized, since they require a higher temperature, though precision vaporizers such as the Volcano and Vapezilla can be used effectively with these strains.
Eating cannabis is by far the most difficult method by which to achieve precision dosage. This is made more difficult when using readily available "edibles", since there is no standard formula for dosage. "5x", "10x" and other dosages found on "edible" packaging are absolutely meaningless and completely unreliable. To effectively consume cannabis orally requires the presence of a fat to help digest the active ingredients found in cannabis. Additionally, the cannabis should be heated for five minutes at 350 degrees F, to convert the active ingredients so that they can be absorbed through the digestive tract. Thorough heating also kills any harmful bacteria that might be present on the raw cannabis.. Selecting the appropriate dosage of cannabis to be consumed orally is a process of trial and error, though there are a few techniques that might help. First, use a specific strain to prepare the edible preparation, since there will be less variance in cannabinoid content. Second, use the same kind of oil or fat to distribute the active cannabis ingredients throughout the edible mixture. Third, use the same exact amount of cannabis each time you prepare the edible mixture. Fourth, wait four hours after consuming the edible mixture before assessing whether you've achieved the correct dosage. Lastly, always keep notes on your dosage. Consistency is the key, though there will always be some variance with the effects of orally consumed cannabis.
Purity - Raw herbal cannabis may be contaminated by bacteria, molds, fungi and viruses. The average microbial counts found on raw cannabis vary, though these counts can be significant and can pose a health threat to patients. Some bacteria found on raw cannabis may cause gastrointestinal illness. Additionally, the small cystolith hairs found on the stems of raw cannabis can severely irritate the human digestive tract.
The bottom line: never eat raw cannabis.
Mold and fungi infestation found on some contaminated cannabis can pose a health risk to patients using cannabis. Mold growth is common on cannabis grown indoors. Patients should learn to recognize the more common molds found on contaminated cannabis. The most common mold infestation on cannabis is mildew. Mildew often appears on the tiny sugar leaves that surround the bud and appear as bright white trichomes ("hairs" or "crystals"), similar to the actual transparent milky or amber trichomes found on the flower surfaces of healthy cannabis. Unscrupulous cannabis growers often attempt to conceal mildew infestation by trimming back these leaves. Close visual inspection of cannabis flowers can usually reveal any mildew contamination. The health repercussions of consuming mildewed cannabis are unknown, but caution is certainly advised.
Very rarely, cannabis can be contaminated by aspergillus mold. Aspergillus can produce aflatoxins, which are extremely toxic and responsible for the only death in the US directly attributable to contaminated cannabis. Aflatoxins are not destroyed by heat and can be inhaled by cannabis smokers. Aspergillus mold can grow on cannabis cured in paper bags, so-called "sweat curing". Cannabis should never be cured or stored in moist conditions.
Concentrated forms of cannabis, including hashish, oils and tinctures, present their own set of contamination risks to patients. Medicinal concentrates are typically made from byproducts of the process of manicuring cannabis flowers. The collection and storage of these byproducts is often unsanitary, while the actual methods by which many concentrates are produced, often introduces new contaminants. Hashish and kif are made by separating the trichomes from underlying plant material. Traditionally, this process was achieved by dry sieving the cannabis through fine screens to collect the trichomes. In recent years, water trichome extraction methods have been introduced that greatly increase the likelihood of mold contamination in these concentrates. Almost no hashish available to patients is free from mold contamination. Oils and waxes are usually made by extracting the active ingredients from cannabis by using solvents or compressed gases such as butane. Often these solvents and gases contain extremely toxic and carcinogenic substances that remain in the concentrates after the extraction process. The bottom line is that patients that choose to use concentrated forms of cannabis are at greater risk of exposure to dangerous contaminants.
Side effects - Speak with your physician if you experience any side effects from cannabis use.
The physical side effects of cannabis use may include:
Tachycardia - rapid heartbeat
Dry mouth
Dizziness
Orthostatic hypotension - dizziness or loss of consciousness when standing or sitting up while medicated on cannabis.
Headache
Insomnia
Increased sensation of heat or cold in extremities
Red or burning eyes
Muscle weakness
Irritation of airways in cannabis smokers
Cognitive impairment - long-term use of cannabis does seem to effect cognition (ability to think), but any cognitive impairment arising from cannabis use appears to be reversible.
The psychological side effects of cannabis use may include:
Anxiety
Lethargy
Confusion
Panic
Reaction time
Many of these side effects are dosage dependent and can be reduced by ingesting smaller doses of cannabis.
Contraindications - Patients with the following illnesses or disorders should discuss these conditions with their physician before using medicinal cannabis.
Heart disease, arrhythmia, or angina
Acute high blood pressure
Pulmonary disease - smoking cannabis is not recommended for these patients.
Schizophrenia
Immune disorders
Pregnancy and breast-feeding - Use of cannabis during pregnancy and breastfeeding is not recommended. Children exposed to cannabis during the mother's pregnancy have been shown in certain, but not all, studies to score lower on cognitive function examinations. The active ingredients in cannabis are present in breast milk.
Dependence - Over time, medicinal cannabis users can become physically dependent upon cannabis. Cessation of long-term cannabis use can produce mild withdrawal symptoms including restlessness, irritability, insomnia and, rarely, nausea.
Tolerance - Many patients claim to develop a tolerance over time to medicinal cannabis that requires these patients to increase their dosage. In our experience, we feel that most cannabis tolerance issues are myths. It has been shown in research studies that overdosing on cannabis reduces its effects. Most tolerance is caused by overdosing. Many cannabis users believe that tolerance can be avoided by switching among cannabis strains, which is another myth. The variations in the effects of different cannabis strains are caused by the different ratios of cannabinoids and pharmacologically active essential oils found in each cannabis strain. The variance in these essential oils is one of the primary causes for why different cannabis strains produce individual effects. It's possible that certain essential oils in cannabis lose their effectiveness when taken continuously over time, but this has not been proven in research studies. The only way to reduce so-called "tolerance" is to reduce dosage.
Drug interactions - When taken orally, the active ingredients in cannabis can interact with enzymes in the body to increase or decrease the effect of cannabis. Special caution should be used when taking oral cannabis with the following drugs. The interaction of smoked or vaporized cannabis with these drugs is unknown, but caution is advised.
The following drugs can increase the effects of oral cannabis.
Clarithromycin (Biaxin) - antibiotic
Erythromycin (Robimycin, Ilosone, Acnasol) - antibiotic
Itraconazole (Sporanox) - antifungal
Fluconazole (Diflucan, Trican) - antifungal
Ketoconazole - antifungal
Miconazole (Monistat) - antifungal
Diltiazem (Tiazac, Cardizem, Dilacor) - high blood pressure, angina
Verapamil (Calan, Veralan, Isoptin) - cardiac arrhythmias
Amiodarone (Cordarone) - cardiac arrhythmias
Ritonavir (Norvir) - HIV protease inhibitor
Isoniazid (Nydrazid, Rifamate) - tuberculosis treatment
The following drugs can decrease or interfere with the effects of oral cannabis
Rifampicin (Rifampin, Rifadin, Rifater, Rimactane) - antibiotic
Carbamazepine (Tegretol, Equetro, Carbetrol) - anticonvulsant
Phenobarbital - sedative, anticonvulsant
Phenytoin (Dilantin) - anticonvulsant
Primodone (Mylosine) - anticonvulsant
Rifabutin (Mycobutin) - MAC disease
St. John's Wort - herbal antidepressant
Additionally, cannabis (smoked, oral, or vaporized) increases the effects of alcohol, benzodiazepines (Valium, Xanax, Restoril, Librium, Ativan, Lorimet, Halcion, etc.) and opiates (morphine, Fentanyl, codeine, etc.).
Because THC is strongly bound to plasma proteins, caution is advised when taking other medications that are also strongly bound to plasma proteins.
Please take the time to discuss the information provided with your physician. Medicate smart.
__________________
I serve on the board of directors of Cornerstone Research Collective, a non-profit mutual benefit California corporation.
CRC is a legally organized association of medical cannabis patients. We actively discourage the diversion of medical cannabis. Know your meds; know your rights, from plant to patient.
Affiliate: Steep Hill Medical Collective Laboratory
Affiliate: International Cannabinoid Research Society
Member - Medical Cannabis Association
Member - International Association for Cannabinoid Medicines
Supporter: ASA, PAN, GLACA & MPP, Patients Out of Time
Cannabis dosage, purity, side effects and drug interactions
Cornerstone Research Collective - 2008
We are not physicians or pharmacists. This material is provided solely because there is virtually no information provided to medicinal marijuana patients in California concerning the dosage, purity, potential side effects and drug interactions associated with medicinal cannabis use. This information is not intended to be prescriptive and has not been approved by the FDA, NIDA, or anyone that owns a mug with initials on it.
Dosage - Inexperienced users of medicinal cannabis often use more cannabis than needed to address their symptoms. Because cannabis is relatively nontoxic, overdosage is very common. Some ill-informed recreational users have promoted the dosage strategy that "more is cooler" and this ignorance has spread to some medicinal cannabis patients. The key to intelligent medicinal cannabis dosage is to use only enough cannabis to address their symptoms. A recent study confirms that there is a "sweet spot" for medicinal cannabis dosage. Patients in the study that consumed too small a dose received no relief of their symptoms, while patients who overdosed also achieved no relief. Exceeding the "sweet spot" dosage point is a waste of medicine.
Titrating (adjusting) the cannabis dosage seems easiest for patients that choose to smoke cannabis, even though smoking cannabis presents its own specific health issues. One method is to take a single deep inhalation of .1 gram of smoked cannabis, then wait five minutes to gauge the effect of this dose. Holding the smoke in the lungs does not increase the amount of THC that will be absorbed through the lungs, but does increase the amount of toxic tars that will coat the lung passages. Many patients who take large inhalations of smoke and hold their breath subsequently develop chronic lung irritation. With "creeper" strains of cannabis, which have a slower onset of effects, the patient may wish to wait fifteen minutes to assess whether effective dosage has been achieved.
When vaporizing cannabis, it is easier to overdose than when smoking, since the lack of irritation, in comparison with smoking, makes it more likely that too much of the vaporized cannabis ingredients will be inhaled. This lack of precision can be adjusted by carefully weighing the amount of cannabis to be vaporized and using only familiar cannabis strains. Take a single inhalation of vaporized cannabis, exhale and wait five minutes. "Creeper" strains of cannabis are not as easily vaporized, since they require a higher temperature, though precision vaporizers such as the Volcano and Vapezilla can be used effectively with these strains.
Eating cannabis is by far the most difficult method by which to achieve precision dosage. This is made more difficult when using readily available "edibles", since there is no standard formula for dosage. "5x", "10x" and other dosages found on "edible" packaging are absolutely meaningless and completely unreliable. To effectively consume cannabis orally requires the presence of a fat to help digest the active ingredients found in cannabis. Additionally, the cannabis should be heated for five minutes at 350 degrees F, to convert the active ingredients so that they can be absorbed through the digestive tract. Thorough heating also kills any harmful bacteria that might be present on the raw cannabis.. Selecting the appropriate dosage of cannabis to be consumed orally is a process of trial and error, though there are a few techniques that might help. First, use a specific strain to prepare the edible preparation, since there will be less variance in cannabinoid content. Second, use the same kind of oil or fat to distribute the active cannabis ingredients throughout the edible mixture. Third, use the same exact amount of cannabis each time you prepare the edible mixture. Fourth, wait four hours after consuming the edible mixture before assessing whether you've achieved the correct dosage. Lastly, always keep notes on your dosage. Consistency is the key, though there will always be some variance with the effects of orally consumed cannabis.
Purity - Raw herbal cannabis may be contaminated by bacteria, molds, fungi and viruses. The average microbial counts found on raw cannabis vary, though these counts can be significant and can pose a health threat to patients. Some bacteria found on raw cannabis may cause gastrointestinal illness. Additionally, the small cystolith hairs found on the stems of raw cannabis can severely irritate the human digestive tract.
The bottom line: never eat raw cannabis.
Mold and fungi infestation found on some contaminated cannabis can pose a health risk to patients using cannabis. Mold growth is common on cannabis grown indoors. Patients should learn to recognize the more common molds found on contaminated cannabis. The most common mold infestation on cannabis is mildew. Mildew often appears on the tiny sugar leaves that surround the bud and appear as bright white trichomes ("hairs" or "crystals"), similar to the actual transparent milky or amber trichomes found on the flower surfaces of healthy cannabis. Unscrupulous cannabis growers often attempt to conceal mildew infestation by trimming back these leaves. Close visual inspection of cannabis flowers can usually reveal any mildew contamination. The health repercussions of consuming mildewed cannabis are unknown, but caution is certainly advised.
Very rarely, cannabis can be contaminated by aspergillus mold. Aspergillus can produce aflatoxins, which are extremely toxic and responsible for the only death in the US directly attributable to contaminated cannabis. Aflatoxins are not destroyed by heat and can be inhaled by cannabis smokers. Aspergillus mold can grow on cannabis cured in paper bags, so-called "sweat curing". Cannabis should never be cured or stored in moist conditions.
Concentrated forms of cannabis, including hashish, oils and tinctures, present their own set of contamination risks to patients. Medicinal concentrates are typically made from byproducts of the process of manicuring cannabis flowers. The collection and storage of these byproducts is often unsanitary, while the actual methods by which many concentrates are produced, often introduces new contaminants. Hashish and kif are made by separating the trichomes from underlying plant material. Traditionally, this process was achieved by dry sieving the cannabis through fine screens to collect the trichomes. In recent years, water trichome extraction methods have been introduced that greatly increase the likelihood of mold contamination in these concentrates. Almost no hashish available to patients is free from mold contamination. Oils and waxes are usually made by extracting the active ingredients from cannabis by using solvents or compressed gases such as butane. Often these solvents and gases contain extremely toxic and carcinogenic substances that remain in the concentrates after the extraction process. The bottom line is that patients that choose to use concentrated forms of cannabis are at greater risk of exposure to dangerous contaminants.
Side effects - Speak with your physician if you experience any side effects from cannabis use.
The physical side effects of cannabis use may include:
Tachycardia - rapid heartbeat
Dry mouth
Dizziness
Orthostatic hypotension - dizziness or loss of consciousness when standing or sitting up while medicated on cannabis.
Headache
Insomnia
Increased sensation of heat or cold in extremities
Red or burning eyes
Muscle weakness
Irritation of airways in cannabis smokers
Cognitive impairment - long-term use of cannabis does seem to effect cognition (ability to think), but any cognitive impairment arising from cannabis use appears to be reversible.
The psychological side effects of cannabis use may include:
Anxiety
Lethargy
Confusion
Panic
Reaction time
Many of these side effects are dosage dependent and can be reduced by ingesting smaller doses of cannabis.
Contraindications - Patients with the following illnesses or disorders should discuss these conditions with their physician before using medicinal cannabis.
Heart disease, arrhythmia, or angina
Acute high blood pressure
Pulmonary disease - smoking cannabis is not recommended for these patients.
Schizophrenia
Immune disorders
Pregnancy and breast-feeding - Use of cannabis during pregnancy and breastfeeding is not recommended. Children exposed to cannabis during the mother's pregnancy have been shown in certain, but not all, studies to score lower on cognitive function examinations. The active ingredients in cannabis are present in breast milk.
Dependence - Over time, medicinal cannabis users can become physically dependent upon cannabis. Cessation of long-term cannabis use can produce mild withdrawal symptoms including restlessness, irritability, insomnia and, rarely, nausea.
Tolerance - Many patients claim to develop a tolerance over time to medicinal cannabis that requires these patients to increase their dosage. In our experience, we feel that most cannabis tolerance issues are myths. It has been shown in research studies that overdosing on cannabis reduces its effects. Most tolerance is caused by overdosing. Many cannabis users believe that tolerance can be avoided by switching among cannabis strains, which is another myth. The variations in the effects of different cannabis strains are caused by the different ratios of cannabinoids and pharmacologically active essential oils found in each cannabis strain. The variance in these essential oils is one of the primary causes for why different cannabis strains produce individual effects. It's possible that certain essential oils in cannabis lose their effectiveness when taken continuously over time, but this has not been proven in research studies. The only way to reduce so-called "tolerance" is to reduce dosage.
Drug interactions - When taken orally, the active ingredients in cannabis can interact with enzymes in the body to increase or decrease the effect of cannabis. Special caution should be used when taking oral cannabis with the following drugs. The interaction of smoked or vaporized cannabis with these drugs is unknown, but caution is advised.
The following drugs can increase the effects of oral cannabis.
Clarithromycin (Biaxin) - antibiotic
Erythromycin (Robimycin, Ilosone, Acnasol) - antibiotic
Itraconazole (Sporanox) - antifungal
Fluconazole (Diflucan, Trican) - antifungal
Ketoconazole - antifungal
Miconazole (Monistat) - antifungal
Diltiazem (Tiazac, Cardizem, Dilacor) - high blood pressure, angina
Verapamil (Calan, Veralan, Isoptin) - cardiac arrhythmias
Amiodarone (Cordarone) - cardiac arrhythmias
Ritonavir (Norvir) - HIV protease inhibitor
Isoniazid (Nydrazid, Rifamate) - tuberculosis treatment
The following drugs can decrease or interfere with the effects of oral cannabis
Rifampicin (Rifampin, Rifadin, Rifater, Rimactane) - antibiotic
Carbamazepine (Tegretol, Equetro, Carbetrol) - anticonvulsant
Phenobarbital - sedative, anticonvulsant
Phenytoin (Dilantin) - anticonvulsant
Primodone (Mylosine) - anticonvulsant
Rifabutin (Mycobutin) - MAC disease
St. John's Wort - herbal antidepressant
Additionally, cannabis (smoked, oral, or vaporized) increases the effects of alcohol, benzodiazepines (Valium, Xanax, Restoril, Librium, Ativan, Lorimet, Halcion, etc.) and opiates (morphine, Fentanyl, codeine, etc.).
Because THC is strongly bound to plasma proteins, caution is advised when taking other medications that are also strongly bound to plasma proteins.
Please take the time to discuss the information provided with your physician. Medicate smart.
__________________
I serve on the board of directors of Cornerstone Research Collective, a non-profit mutual benefit California corporation.
CRC is a legally organized association of medical cannabis patients. We actively discourage the diversion of medical cannabis. Know your meds; know your rights, from plant to patient.
Affiliate: Steep Hill Medical Collective Laboratory
Affiliate: International Cannabinoid Research Society
Member - Medical Cannabis Association
Member - International Association for Cannabinoid Medicines
Supporter: ASA, PAN, GLACA & MPP, Patients Out of Time
AgentofChaos
Serial Vapist
Great read! I'm really impressed with that place, they must be a busy establishment.
lwien
Well-Known Member
They had to close their membership a few years ago so that they could maintain the quality service that they offer. They are one of the best in SoCal. I was really fortunate to get in. Really geared more to the medical user than the recreational user, and the difference between dispensaries that cater to each of these demographics really becomes obvious as soon as you walk in.AgentofChaos said:
AgentofChaos
Serial Vapist
Just goes to show the more you put in, the more you get out.
lwien
Well-Known Member
Some more interesting data. One of the members responded to that lengthy post above with the following inquiry:
"Hello Morpheus,
I really enjoyed your detailed article. Being a cardiac patient with insomnia, I wonder if I would benefit from pure indica strains without tachycardia. Or do all strains and hybrids cause tachycardia? I tried weed in college about 3 times. The first time was a single toke of kind or kine bud from a bong. It made me feel great; mellow, relaxed and time was slow but no munchies or giggles. The other two times it looked like dry, brownish, stemmy mexican stress. Trying this stuff at two months apart (same bag/stuff) caused me giggles at first then major tachycardia, paranoia and of course more tachycardia from the paranoia of the first episode. This went on for 24 hours! The tachycardia would come and go in waves with the chest and neck feeling warm and tingly then the heart would race like a 100-yard dash--very unnerving!
Thanks for any help."
And this was the response:
"You should always consult with a physician when you experience any side effects of any medicine, including cannabis. Tachycardia (rapid or racing heartbeat) is a known side effect of THC. According to the literature, tachycardia seems more likely to happen to less experienced users of cannabis rather than to regular users. It sounds like your episodes were a combination of tachycardia and cannabis-induced anxiety, but I am not a doctor and you should discuss these side effects with a physician. Many people have had episodes of cannabis-induced anxiety, but it's still not well understood what causes these episodes, though we certainly have some pet hypotheses. There could be some interaction between THC and some of the essential oils on cannabis, especially prevalent on certain strains such as Mexican Highland "sativas" or Nepalese diesel strains that generate an over-stimulating and anxiety-provoking effect. Or cannabis may trigger a "fight or flight" response that results in a panic attack. While cannabis is a remarkably nontoxic substance, it is still a powerful drug. And if you have an undiagnosed pre-existing condition, cannabis may not be the right drug for you. If you have a cardiac condition, you simply may have to forego the use of cannabis altogether. Talk to a doctor, particularly your cardiologist. It's the only responsible and reasonable thing to do.
best,
morpheus
Cornerstone Research"
"Hello Morpheus,
I really enjoyed your detailed article. Being a cardiac patient with insomnia, I wonder if I would benefit from pure indica strains without tachycardia. Or do all strains and hybrids cause tachycardia? I tried weed in college about 3 times. The first time was a single toke of kind or kine bud from a bong. It made me feel great; mellow, relaxed and time was slow but no munchies or giggles. The other two times it looked like dry, brownish, stemmy mexican stress. Trying this stuff at two months apart (same bag/stuff) caused me giggles at first then major tachycardia, paranoia and of course more tachycardia from the paranoia of the first episode. This went on for 24 hours! The tachycardia would come and go in waves with the chest and neck feeling warm and tingly then the heart would race like a 100-yard dash--very unnerving!
Thanks for any help."
And this was the response:
"You should always consult with a physician when you experience any side effects of any medicine, including cannabis. Tachycardia (rapid or racing heartbeat) is a known side effect of THC. According to the literature, tachycardia seems more likely to happen to less experienced users of cannabis rather than to regular users. It sounds like your episodes were a combination of tachycardia and cannabis-induced anxiety, but I am not a doctor and you should discuss these side effects with a physician. Many people have had episodes of cannabis-induced anxiety, but it's still not well understood what causes these episodes, though we certainly have some pet hypotheses. There could be some interaction between THC and some of the essential oils on cannabis, especially prevalent on certain strains such as Mexican Highland "sativas" or Nepalese diesel strains that generate an over-stimulating and anxiety-provoking effect. Or cannabis may trigger a "fight or flight" response that results in a panic attack. While cannabis is a remarkably nontoxic substance, it is still a powerful drug. And if you have an undiagnosed pre-existing condition, cannabis may not be the right drug for you. If you have a cardiac condition, you simply may have to forego the use of cannabis altogether. Talk to a doctor, particularly your cardiologist. It's the only responsible and reasonable thing to do.
best,
morpheus
Cornerstone Research"
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The most recent menu as of 11/10:
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Here's our current menu. Several new additions...
FLOWERS
"Area 51" - rare Lemon Skunk pheno with intense sativa-dom effects.
"Blueberry Haze" - original hybrid cross that became Blue Dream.
"C3" - the OG that defines "medication time".
"Chem 4" - the fourth Diesel popped from the legendary Chem bagseed.
"Glastonbury OG" the OC's best OG.
"Green Queen" hybrid of PC and Malawi genetics, soaring effects.
"707 Headband" - real deal Headband.
"Jack Herer" - Cannabis Cup sativa. This batch featured in High Times.
"Jack OG" new cross of Jack H and OG. Super potent indica-dom.
"Kilimanjaro" - Kenyan sativa with massive euphoria.
"King Ahmad" - lovely King Kush with dense trichome coverage.
"Larry OG" - popular OG Kush cut with strong vanilla scent.
"Nano" - Maui Haze x Island Sweet Skunk combine into a genius sativa.
"O-Giesel" - Swerve's SFV x Giesel.
"Pinetar Kush" - the rarest Cali kush, with amazing sweet fuel aroma.
"Roadkill Skunk" - legendary stinky sativa-dominant hybrid.
"Royal Kush" - superb narcotic outdoor kush.
"Silk 2" - profoundly potent orange pheno of Master Kush.
"Soma A+" - high CBD indica, exceptionally rare chemotype.
"Thai Haze" - spicy psychedelic sativa.
"The Truth" - Maui x Skunk x Dawg, incredible full-sun organic
"Warlock OG" - New sweet sticky ultrapotent OG
CONCENTRATES
"Gold" - most potent concentrate in Cali. 87% THC.
"Shiva Crystals" - pure water extracted full-melt hashish
SPECIALS - all include tax
"Cheese" - Outdoor UK Suoer Skunk 36e/275z
"Diesel Holy Cambodian" SD x BIg Sur Holy x Cambo Haze 41e/312z
"G-13" - Apocryphal govt. indica. Crushing creeper - 46e/350z
"Outdoor OG" - organic outdoor OG - 36e/275z
"Pineapple Kush" - ultrapotent - 36e/275z
"Pure Kush" - greenhouse Pure Kush - 31e/236z
"Sour Bubble x Chemdawg" - potent SB Chem cross - 36e/275z
"Sour Diesel" - potent and stimulating Sour D - 36e275z
"Sour Grape" - outdoor Sour D x Grape Ape, narcotic - 41e/312z
"Ultra Violet" - delicious next-generation purple - 46e/350z
EDIBLES
Almonds
50mg Cookies
Gold Caps - 25mg Gold gelcaps
Gold Spray - new sublingual Gold spray
Nukes - our new double-strength caramel
Ludlow Pastilles - sublingual hard candies
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I volunteer for Cornerstone Research Collective. More precisely, I serve on the board of directors of Cornerstone Research Collective, a non-profit mutual benefit California corporation.
Affiliate: Steep Hill Medical Collective Laboratory
Affiliate: International Cannabinoid Research Society
Member - Medical Cannabis Association
Member - International Association for Cannabinoid Medicines
Supporter: ASA, PAN, GLACA & MPP, Patients Out of Time
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Here's our current menu. Several new additions...
FLOWERS
"Area 51" - rare Lemon Skunk pheno with intense sativa-dom effects.
"Blueberry Haze" - original hybrid cross that became Blue Dream.
"C3" - the OG that defines "medication time".
"Chem 4" - the fourth Diesel popped from the legendary Chem bagseed.
"Glastonbury OG" the OC's best OG.
"Green Queen" hybrid of PC and Malawi genetics, soaring effects.
"707 Headband" - real deal Headband.
"Jack Herer" - Cannabis Cup sativa. This batch featured in High Times.
"Jack OG" new cross of Jack H and OG. Super potent indica-dom.
"Kilimanjaro" - Kenyan sativa with massive euphoria.
"King Ahmad" - lovely King Kush with dense trichome coverage.
"Larry OG" - popular OG Kush cut with strong vanilla scent.
"Nano" - Maui Haze x Island Sweet Skunk combine into a genius sativa.
"O-Giesel" - Swerve's SFV x Giesel.
"Pinetar Kush" - the rarest Cali kush, with amazing sweet fuel aroma.
"Roadkill Skunk" - legendary stinky sativa-dominant hybrid.
"Royal Kush" - superb narcotic outdoor kush.
"Silk 2" - profoundly potent orange pheno of Master Kush.
"Soma A+" - high CBD indica, exceptionally rare chemotype.
"Thai Haze" - spicy psychedelic sativa.
"The Truth" - Maui x Skunk x Dawg, incredible full-sun organic
"Warlock OG" - New sweet sticky ultrapotent OG
CONCENTRATES
"Gold" - most potent concentrate in Cali. 87% THC.
"Shiva Crystals" - pure water extracted full-melt hashish
SPECIALS - all include tax
"Cheese" - Outdoor UK Suoer Skunk 36e/275z
"Diesel Holy Cambodian" SD x BIg Sur Holy x Cambo Haze 41e/312z
"G-13" - Apocryphal govt. indica. Crushing creeper - 46e/350z
"Outdoor OG" - organic outdoor OG - 36e/275z
"Pineapple Kush" - ultrapotent - 36e/275z
"Pure Kush" - greenhouse Pure Kush - 31e/236z
"Sour Bubble x Chemdawg" - potent SB Chem cross - 36e/275z
"Sour Diesel" - potent and stimulating Sour D - 36e275z
"Sour Grape" - outdoor Sour D x Grape Ape, narcotic - 41e/312z
"Ultra Violet" - delicious next-generation purple - 46e/350z
EDIBLES
Almonds
50mg Cookies
Gold Caps - 25mg Gold gelcaps
Gold Spray - new sublingual Gold spray
Nukes - our new double-strength caramel
Ludlow Pastilles - sublingual hard candies
__________________
I volunteer for Cornerstone Research Collective. More precisely, I serve on the board of directors of Cornerstone Research Collective, a non-profit mutual benefit California corporation.
Affiliate: Steep Hill Medical Collective Laboratory
Affiliate: International Cannabinoid Research Society
Member - Medical Cannabis Association
Member - International Association for Cannabinoid Medicines
Supporter: ASA, PAN, GLACA & MPP, Patients Out of Time
momofthegoons
vapor accessory addict
Thank you for not posting pics this time as you are killing me lwien. Things are a little tough in Michigan right now and I don't need any reminders of what I can't have. 
JJ420
chillin on the couch, sippin off a 22 ounce.
mnmlh said:
I agree. We're not quite there yet... after all something like 40% of people asked in a recent poll said they had NO IDEA of what even happened before,during, and after he last mid-term elections, but we are definitely doing our best to set the stage. Racism seems to be more prevalent than ever in this country, the divide between the uber rich and poor is at an all-time high(America has just recently entered banana republic status) not to mention the sustained unemployment rate over 9.5% - at that is by far the most conservative(really laughable) of estimates, and the dollar could collapse at any moment should the Chinese decide to stop purchasing any more of our debt or merely make the suggestion of dumping some of it.
My favorite saying has always been "When things happen, they happen quickly".