analize my ABV please

[OhTheAgony]

I've been vaping through my SSV for a good month now after 23 years of combustion, and gaining more experience every day. But this is my first vape ever and I still consider myself very much a vaping noob. I don't have anyone in my surroundings that vapes, and for some reason I'd like some conformation I'm doing it right. Therefore I thought it might be a good idea to show you guys my ABV (no worries, you don't need to show me yours).

I realize this may be hard to do from a photo (I just noticed it actually looks much greener in the picture than it does irl), but what can you more experienced vaporists tell about my vaping habits from just looking at my ABV?

Higher resolution image:

http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/9655/p1010126w.jpg


ps: if other insecure noobs feel compelled to post their own ABV in this thread to have it looked at, please feel free to do so.

 

[Spacenstein]

There is no doing it right.. It all depends on user preference. Although, I can easily see that you haven't burned any of your herb which is good.

What type of heat cover do you have? If you look at the close-up photo of your ABV, you can see parts of your herb mix are still green. This is common with a lot of SSV users since the bowl doesn't vape as thoroughly as others by itself. Stirring your herb in between hits and spinning your bowl as you inhale can help to a more even, thorough vaping of your herb. (if that's what you desire.. remember it's all based on preference)

Now start saving all that ABV up and make some edibles!

*EDIT* Dude.. your ABV is even better than some of the weed I get. Look really closely, you've got tons of un-vaped trichs!!! Once again, if you like to just quickly vape your herb then pack a new bowl, more power to you.. but keep in mind you could go sooooo much farther with that ABV.

 

[Gunky]

I think maybe you could grind that up between thumb and forefinger and get more out of it.

 

[OhTheAgony]

Spacenstein:

Yeah, I'm a bit surprised about that myself to be honest. Haven't burned it or blown any of it in to the heatercover once so far *knocks on wood*

So, would you like to buy my ABV?

I still got everything that ever went through my SSV


I really thought I burned everything out of it tbh.
I usually set my SSV pretty hot (I get good clouds of vapour at 12 o'clock, but usually set it at 2 to 2.30), stir it between every hit, and keep hitting it till no more visible vapour comes out when exhaling or when it starts tasting to dirty. It varies a bit for different strains. I got the standard wand and heatcover btw. And I usually inhale pretty slow.

I do kind of miss the couch lock feeling I got with smoking though, I guess I'll try turning off my taste buds and vape some of that ABV at even higher temps then?


Gunky: I'm afraid that if I'll grind it up any finer I'll suck it all through the screen and there will be no ABV left. What I'm left with already is about a 5th from what I put in at most it seems. No idea where it all goes tbh. But I'll give it a go.

 

[Spacenstein]

So, would you like to buy my ABV?

If only I could, if only I could...

I still got everything that ever went through my SSV

I do kind of miss the couch lock feeling I got with smoking though, I guess I'll try turning off my taste buds and vape some of that ABV at even higher temps then?

I'm a little bitch when it comes to the tastes at higher temperatures, so I can relate to your hesitation. Personally, I don't vape my bud too thoroughly because I know I'll reclaim anything I didn't vape when I use my ABV in cooking or tinctures. Tinctures and cooking with ABV will allow you to achieve that great couch lock body high. It's great that you've saved all your ABV because it's really going to pay off. Also, you can clean your wand and whip to reclaim all of that resin.. that stuff is stronger than most of the hash people buy ..especially when you're using good bud!

 

[OhTheAgony]

I just tried re-vaping some of that AVB.

It didn't taste to good, but I got some more vapour out of it after grinding it finer. Had the dial at about half past 3 this time, don't think I should go any higher then that. I think there's more vapour in the bowl I tried, but I don't want it. It's just to filthy for my sensitive taste buds. I guess I'll try cooking with it or make a tincture or hash with some vodka (ISO is really hard to get over here and very costly at about 60 euro's a litre). Do you turn it in to hash butter before you cook with it, or do you prefer using the whole product? The latter doesn't seem to tasty to me tbh.

Yeah, I already took about half a gram of wand hash out of it so far, there's about another half a gram in there I think, but I'll just leave it in until I want to use it. I like mixing it in with some weed and tobacco and roll it in to a joint for the rare occasion I'm desperate to combust. It isn't as tasty as the hash I can buy over here, but it is very very potent.

 

[Lo]

It looks to me like you could have a finer grind. If not, there are goodies to be had from the ABV with tinctures, butter, candy. Those can really bring on the sedative effect as well.

 

[OhTheAgony]

I got a really nice Black Leaf grinder, I could go a lot finer but I deliberately don't because I don't want it to go through the screen. I could get it to an almost kief like powdery state as long as my herb is dry enough, should I?

 

[Elluzion]

dude you barely vape your shit at all. Use your fingertips, reload, and vape MORE

 

[steiner666]

My SSV ABV

I stir a lot and use small loads for this even and thorough of vapage.

You could also look into a HA for revaping that ABV. It gets a lot of out ABV from other vapes usually. Well, it depends on how well vaped it is i suppose. A load of abv like in my picture would only get 1 bag maybe. Yours would get 3-4 i'm guessing. The good thing is that the HA is not only great at thoroughly extracting, but there is absolutely no risk of combustion while doing so. Even at max knob position, there will be no scorching. PLus, you can vape nugs without even grinding or stirring them at all and get just as thorough of extraction. Like this nug:

I usually vape fresh green during the day with my WDZ. I usually just get 4-5 hits off a stem and then dump it into a collection for later revaping in the HA. This makes it so i dont have to worry about vaping shit to the max in the wdz, i just dump it when i get the effect and then later on at night i can revape it all and get a those higher temp actives to help knock me out for the night.

But, anyway, the SSV (and most variable temp vapes) is capable of really thorough and even extraction, in the right hands. It's just the amount of time and effort and care you have to put into doing it without accidentally combusting that varies, and makes the HA so much better imo.

 

[OhTheAgony]

holly

crap




And I thought I took it far, lolz

Are you sure you aren't burning it when it's that black though, Steiner?

And what's that light brown stuff on the bottom left right in the last picture?

Can you still get anything out of that for cooking or tinctures/hash, or is it really finally done with completely when it looks like that?

Thanks for your efforts btw, I love pictures

The first next vape I'll buy will probably be a portable one, still going back and forth between the LB and the Lotus atm. After that I'd really like a PD Pandora and some glass, but my bike needs a new cam chain and tires as well so that might take me a while
I do see the HA mentioned here more and more though, I'll keep it mind and look a little further in to it as well, thanks.

I am trying to grind my weed a little finer and heat it a little longer tonight, and I do feel different now it seems. Not sure how yet but I'm definitely more satisfied than usual without smoking. Gonna try some more, I better be thorough

 

[Lo]

My ABV isn't as dark as Steiner's but way darker than yours. I do grind it a bit finer. For the SSV you don't want a powder fine grind as say the LB likes but a bit finer than you're doing now may give you a little better results IMHO.

I personally don't vape mine that dark because I WANT to use the ABV for sedative effects. It is up to the user how far you want to vape it. Personal preference.

Good luck

 

[steiner666]

Yeah, theres definitely no black. It depends a lot of your display settings. I run dual monitor (well, one monitor, one DLP) and on the one screen it does look darker, enough that it looks almost black, but on the other its clearly just dark brown. The pile on the bottom right of the second picture is actually the same pile from the same crushed up nug. It wasnt vaped any more between the two pictures, or moved at all even, its just a different flash/lens setting on my camera than the others. Its for taking picture of things further away, and it makes the pile look a lot lighter and washed out as you can see, but i included it to help show that there really is no black. I'm 100% sure there is no combustion.

Another thought is that you might need the full range of vapor in one sitting to get the effect you're looking for. Like, some ppl (self included) like to isolate the lower temp vaping effects (what you're getting, judging by your abv) and higher temp effects (whether they are received through edibles or abv revaping) depending on what particular effect they're looking for in that situation/time of day. BUT, some people really need to have both delivered at once to get to where they want to be. This will more closely replicate the effects you get from smoking.

I've noticed some of my friends need a rapid delivery of the full range to be content. Sometimes i like to do it that way as well. Whether its by temp ramping from 350F-400F slowly in one sitting, or just diving right in at 400F is another variable as well. The later will produce much thicker vapor that is a bit harsher but omg lol. I dont really do it this way myself tho, unless i'm vaping with a skeptical smoker, then i blast them with a 400F bag lol.

and to answer your question, when i'm done revaping my abv in the HA i usually just pitch it these days. i had a friend who used to bum abv off me to smoke when he was dry. but since i got my HA he doesnt want any anymore lol so i figure there cant be much of anything left for doing anything else with. I could see myself, in the future, possibly skipping the whole ABV revaping thing and making edibles instead, but, for now, im happy doing things this way.

 

[OhTheAgony]

Haha, it's that brutal aye? Poor friend of yours.

I haven't calibrated my screen in a while now, but apart from some dominating yellows it shouldn't be to far off. But what I meant was black compared to mine, or really really dark anyways.

Very interesting theories about needing the full range of vapour. I've always had a high tolerance for most substances compared to my friends & acquaintances, I thought it was just that but you might be right. I need to do a lot more testing I guess. no punishment at all

What I do now is pack a fresh bowl of about 0.1 gram and take 3 or 4 hits before I throw it out and mix it with an equal amount of my previously collected ABV and then grind it up between my fingers together and vape that again for a good while. First at a rather low temperature and gradually going up along the way stirring it between every hit. I do get a lot more vapour out of what I first thought was pretty much spend, thanks everyone. I think I'll make this my habit for a while till I've gone through all the ABV I have now and finally start saving a little on weed. It was getting a bit costly, this new vaping habit of mine

If I feel this doesn't work well enough after a few days I can always bake some cookies and try that. But I'd rather this works, I never really was a big fan of eating MJ products to be honest.

 

[Vapsofatso]

I like the idea of posting your vaporized weed/hasj with the used model of vaporizer, temperature, duration, etc. So other people can compare theirs. Maybe an idea for a new topic?

 

[Nycdeisel]

Looks like with that color you will make some fiiiine edibles

In my DBV I usually take it a bit darker, but in my PD that would be considered ideal to toss in the ABV jar. My jar has mixed colors, I also throw stems and leafs in there.

I have probably said this before, but I averaged myself at 20 hits per bowl when each bowl was just over .1

 

[AGBeer]

Exactly.

While you *can* take your herb further (especially with your SSV) the mere fact that you have in essence decarboxylized your herb is plenty good - for what you use it with after

Thats the beautiful thing about vaping. What you might not get in instant gratification from your immediate vape sesh, will put you on your ass at a later time (depending on how you use your ABV) The mostest stonedest Ive ever beenest was with swampwater. Hands fucking down.

 

[OO]

oh the agony, it looks like you haven't even got the CBN off yet, that's a little higher in temps and is what makes me feel hit.

 

[Persona Non Grata]

here is my abv. bit of stem and leaf in there too, ignore that

 

[OhTheAgony]

That looks a lot like my ABV unwelcome one, or is it browner but looks more or less the same because of the lighting?

I really like those Arizer stirring tools btw, do want

Anyways, I took it a bit further last night. I'm not getting my ABV as dark as Steiner (I chicken out because of the nasty taste at some point) and I'm sucking a lot more stuff through the screen now, but I think I'm getting it....

....I must be right, when I spend over 20 minutes laughing at overweight stalker cat....?

How do you call a weed induced laugh attack in English btw?
We dutch stoners usually describe two types of 'attacks' one can get from using mj: the unstoppable urge to eat a lot of something -anything-, and the before mentioned laugh attack, I know you call the first one the munchies from stoner movies and such, but is there a word for the other one?


Back to ABV though; check it out please, round two:

First one is without flash and slightly moved, second is with flash.

And here are the higher resolution versions:

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/271/p1010130u.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/6382/p1010131is.jpg

Again, that looks a lot darker irl then in the pictures like yesterday, must be something wrong with the lighting in my house. Or perhaps it's just the time of year idk.

I don't wanna vape it any more after this unless I get used to the taste in the future perhaps, but this seems to do it for me. I was higher than I've been in a long while and I slept like a baby without feeling the need to combust, goals matched I'd say

I don't think I want to eat that, but does it still look good enough to harvest some hash or tincture from it to you guys (&girls) ?


Nyc, I usually put in a bit more then 0.1, but 20 hits doesn't sound like a lot to me now (yesterday it still would've sound normal to me, haha). Is that with your DB or with the PD? And did I understand you correctly if I got that that's about the darkest ABV gets with a PD? Because if that's the case one probably wouldn't do it for me at the stage I'm in now, yet I really want one

Now, lets have a look at that swampwater, lmao

 

[pakalolo]

While the current technology is marvelous, it still hasn't reached the point where a picture looks the same on every monitor. All monitors are different, even calibrated ones. (Calibration isn't for display accuracy anyway; it's to minimize the difference between monitor display and printed output.) Both the colour and gamma are affected, so your brown and green are not my brown and green, and your white point and shadows aren't my white point and shadows. Also, monitors are only one point of discrepancy. All cameras are slightly different, and every lighting situation is different. You only need to look at Steiner666's pic to see how much variation you can get.

I'm not saying there's no value in trying to analyze ABV with pictures, but I am saying that caution is necessary. Ideally, every picture would also include a colour reference known to everyone, like Coke red.

 

[OhTheAgony]

True true, as I stated in my first post I realize this is far from ideal. I like your idea for a reference colour though, wish I thought of that myself before I started this thread.

I'm still happy that I made the initial post though, reluctant as I first was to do so. I got some really helpful advice and with that I haven't even felt the need to smoke since. The nicotine free nights aren't as restless any more, and marijuana is as enjoyable as it once was when I first discovered it without most of the unhealthy side-effects. Thanks again guyz